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Saithe
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.07 11:38:00 - [1]
 

For quite some time now, I have been extremely interested in user-side modifications. Look at, dare I get burned alive for saying this; the user side customizations for Wor... Worrrr... Worrrrrrrr.... I can't say it. I vomit a little when I attempt to.

Anyway, user mods are a HUGE part of a successful community. Even though it's not a MMO, look at Oblivion. Hell, look at Morrowind. 6/12 (respectively) years old and STILL getting modified.

If I recall correctly, the Eve client uses Python. If CCP were to separate the User Interface from within the client (if that would even be required), they would protect their system-specific information, yet allow for 3rd party customizations.

For example, custom text. Custom target box's. Custom button locations. Custom window sizes. The possibilities are endless, and none of them are truly 'game breaking'. Most of the stuff we see in the client is already client side with server connections. You would not be able to 'delete' a required window with a custom modification to the interface however. Sorry, no sneaky local-delete mods will be produced.

Saithe
Caldari

Posted - 2011.07.07 11:41:00 - [2]
 

Reserved space for idea picture links.

Post links to possible ideas that could spawn because of open-customization to the user-side client interface.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Posted - 2011.07.07 14:18:00 - [3]
 

Read this before going any further with your idea.

Saithe
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.07 14:31:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Saithe on 07/07/2011 14:35:19
Originally by: ShahFluffers
Read this before going any further with your idea.


I believe you are horribly mistaken at what I am suggesting. The link you referenced is for 3rd party apps. I am talking specifically about UI Customization from the local side. Which would, of course, require modification of local client files for the most part.

Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.07 16:05:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Saithe
Edited by: Saithe on 07/07/2011 14:35:19
Originally by: ShahFluffers
Read this before going any further with your idea.


I believe you are horribly mistaken at what I am suggesting. The link you referenced is for 3rd party apps. I am talking specifically about UI Customization from the local side. Which would, of course, require modification of local client files for the most part.


That would potentially open up eve to exploits and bots.

Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.07.07 16:46:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Saithe
Edited by: Saithe on 07/07/2011 14:35:19
Originally by: ShahFluffers
Read this before going any further with your idea.


I believe you are horribly mistaken at what I am suggesting. The link you referenced is for 3rd party apps. I am talking specifically about UI Customization from the local side. Which would, of course, require modification of local client files for the most part.


Local modification of UI would require the use of an API or it would make the client hilariously easy to manipulate for the creation of bots and hacks.

Darth Helmat
Posted - 2011.07.09 13:43:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Darth Helmat on 09/07/2011 13:45:28
Originally by: Lykouleon
Originally by: Saithe
Edited by: Saithe on 07/07/2011 14:35:19
Originally by: ShahFluffers
Read this before going any further with your idea.


I believe you are horribly mistaken at what I am suggesting. The link you referenced is for 3rd party apps. I am talking specifically about UI Customization from the local side. Which would, of course, require modification of local client files for the most part.


Local modification of UI would require the use of an API or it would make the client hilariously easy to manipulate for the creation of bots and hacks.


The thing that makes botting possible, is gameplay that doesn't require an actual brain. Trying to defend against the problem by keeping the client complicated and private is a massive massive exercise in FAIL. mining, ratting, missioning are so simplistic with the right ship set up that 90% of it can be performed, not with a dedicated client hack or macro, but a simple keyboard mouse recorder repeating a sequence of actions. People talk about AFK missioning as a matter of routine strategy - thats how dumb the game play is in places.

Really if CCP spent time on making PVE game play interesting and having thought requirement, then botting would not be an economically viable strategy. As is stands CCP is far too concerned with Incarna, and what little time they spend on spaceships is focussed into PVP and 0.0, that it seems that the defacto model of making ISK requires sitting at the computer occasionally pushing buttons, but not, apparently, using your brain, and is allowed to be as AFK as you like (so long as you don't use a client hack/macro).

The OP's suggestion is good, it would lead to a vibrant community of people who could fix UI issues far quicker than CCP's ever so slow snail crawl toward usability. Crap gameplay would be quickly identified because you'd see client side mods that highlighted which *tasks* are exploitable by automata. It would be fantastic to be able to download plugins, to replace bits (e.g. overview, hud, market window) with your own.

Edited to +1 (but only with CCP prepared to put effort in as above)



 

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