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Starnap
Concentrated Evil
Posted - 2011.07.06 11:59:00 - [61]
 

Sounds like Otto overstepped the line of what is acceptable smack. If he said something like that to me I'd dec every corp he ever joined.

If the person he said it to petitions it he might get him banned.

Jose Black
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.06 12:10:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Spinal Wetstone
here is the log chat for LOCAL
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If that chat is actually authentic you should have him petitioned right away so that he could have been banned before he even got to get to the forum with the topic. Shocked

Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.07.06 14:09:00 - [63]
 

Sounds like what Otto did in Vietnam is infinitely worst than anything Spinal has done in EVE. Conclusion: Spinal is an innocent victim and Otto is a horrible murderous person who is clearly indefensible. Wink

Riedle
Minmatar
Paradox Collective
Posted - 2011.07.06 14:35:00 - [64]
 

Edited by: Riedle on 06/07/2011 14:38:33
$100 million isk Otto is less than 18 years old.

Things like this make me want to move back to high sec.
That and seeing two month old newbs flying Machs

sir bob
Posted - 2011.07.06 15:48:00 - [65]
 

as far as i can see
Otto did overstepped the line of what is acceptable smack
and he knows he did and it looks like he is sorry for that
but if Spinal Wetstone did not can flip in the 1st place
and kill n0ob plays then there be no smack from Otto
so all Otto did is give a bit of smack
but can fliping n0ob come on

Drykor
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2011.07.06 15:52:00 - [66]
 

Edited by: Drykor on 06/07/2011 15:52:46
Someone ban this whiny noob. Don't need more people taking this GAME as something more and giving real life death threats over losing some pixels.
I mean sure can baiting newbies is lame but to threaten with killing someone's family is WAY out of line. If you can't see that then you really need to see a therapist.

Also, seriously **** off with your 'NAM stuff you nationalist pig.

NARYA
Posted - 2011.07.06 18:07:00 - [67]
 

Edited by: NARYA on 06/07/2011 18:08:56
Originally by: Drykor
Edited by: Drykor on 06/07/2011 15:52:46
Someone ban this whiny noob. Don't need more people taking this GAME as something more and giving real life death threats over losing some pixels.
I mean sure can baiting newbies is lame but to threaten with killing someone's family is WAY out of line. If you can't see that then you really need to see a therapist.

Also, seriously **** off with your 'NAM stuff you nationalist pig.


EVE New Citizens Q&A
this part of the forum is for whiny noob

Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts
Posted - 2011.07.06 18:22:00 - [68]
 

I love it, OP tries to take the high ground and claims to have some sort of e-honor and is all offended that someone IN A GAME would stoop so low as to *GASP* shoot a noobie, while at the same time is spouting off in local with REAL LIFE threats, then goes to proclaim he has real experience with MURDERING INNOCENT PEOPLE....

Does not matter how many newbies you have can flipped in empire, I am sorry to say that if Ottos boasting of his experiences in Viet Nam are true, he has no moral grounds to stand on.

A murderer in real life has no place claiming to be better than someone who plays a video game in a manner in which the game is meant to be played.

Now, chances are, all that crap in local was 100% lies to try and scare the big mean canflipper anyway.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.07.06 21:18:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Skex Relbore
That said threatening someone in real life over something that takes place in a game is just sad. Sad because if you are too inept to get this game then you are likely too inept to hunt anyone down anyway, and even if you did the fact that you can't stand up for yourself in a video GAME suggests that you aren't likely to stand up to anyone when you are face to face with them.

As you said, this is a game and if that really happened in game, it could have been RP. However you seem intent on trolling this issue to death.
Originally by: Skex Relbore
I was tempted at first to hunt ole Spinal down and dec his corp with an alt he's only a couple systems from where they are based. But, honestly after reading the nonsense you've written I'd rather hunt you down and pod you myself.

lol, come on and hunt me down and try to pod me, if you think you can.
Originally by: Skex Relbore
I've had close to 5 billion in ships shot out from under me at this point (just on this character) and I did that mostly in T1 frigs and cruisers (which should give some clue on how much asplodin it took to make that happen, 266 according to Battleclinic).

Due to the fact that you're in a RvB corp doing a weak variation of FW is the reason you lost that many ships, plus it sounds like you fail a lot.
Originally by: Skex Relbore
If you somehow manage to avoid the permaban stick I suggest you check your attitude because you won't last in this game.

Players like you need to check yourself. All you wanna do is fan some flames with this post.

Originally by: Hakkar'al Gallente

HTFU - Check who published this
If you can't take it - then EVE isn't the game for you.
Originally by: Otto VonFaart

Some of us have very limited patience with *ssholes. I am one of them.

EVE is full of them, deal with it.
That said, I'll post my fav system, Artisine, where I've *never* have been can flipped - again - for an obvious reason. And 1 war decer out of 5 or even find me out there. YARRRR!!

Good advice, HTFU - now why don't you practice what you preach. By the way, that system is low sec which makes your post fail.
Originally by: Spinal Wetstone

otto here is forgetting to mention that he owes me a fair bit of ISK, I wanted to help him out as a new player to this amazing game that is eve online.

After asking it back, he refused and threatened to murder my family,

I find this very very hard to believe. Considering the fact that can flippers are not only thieves, but also liars and cowards as well.
Originally by: Spinal Wetstone
here is the log chat for LOCAL

(local chat)[ 2011.07.03 03:48:30 ] Otto VonFaart > Spinal, the only thing I promised you is that I am going to find out who you actually are, come and visit you in person with a gun... but maybe I'll just burn your house down with you in it... maybe kill your family too. You ****ed with the wrong guy *******

(local chat) [ 2011.07.03 03:54:10 ] Otto VonFaart > cuz now you got an old, tired former USMC Viet Nam vet all ****ed off at you. And burning down houses with people in 'em is something I have lots of experience with

[ 2011.07.03 03:27:23 ]
Otto VonFaart > pal, the last lawyer that threatened to sue me had a terrible fire at his office... he almost survived.


Lets make it publically known ottoCool

Nice try at getting forum sympathy while trolling this thread.
Since you have no screen shot or official documentation to prove it's true, it didn't happen.

As for the rest of you that I didn't quote who keep saying 'This is Eve, bla bla bla, it's PvP, bla bla bla, get used to it, bla bla bla, love it or leave it, bla bla bla , will pod you myself, bla bla bla.' That's all just a bunch of old BS.

These forums are far more worse than the game. If you feel butt hurt now, too frackin bad. Get over it or feel free to use a locator agent in game, come find me and try to pod me if you can.

foksieloy
Minmatar
Rockets ponies and rainbows
Posted - 2011.07.06 21:36:00 - [70]
 

7/10 OP.

Nice troll thread.

JAYARAMARR
Posted - 2011.07.07 00:13:00 - [71]
 

When I was a noob player, I took the advice of a 'helpful' veteran, and proceeded to mine into jetcans. Yes, he flipped my can and I tried to take back what was mine.
Well, I learned from having my pod squeezed out of my wreck, and it just helped me to realize that Eve is a harsh and unforgiving game. But it's fun too, and even tho I popped someone recently in the same manner as when I was a noob, I paid him for his ship out of sympathy.
I hope he learned a lesson about Eve and will HTFU instead of whining and crying about his pixels being scattered. I hope he comes back and dares me to do it again and then tries to scatter my pixels. Twisted Evil

Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov
The Eleusinian Mystery Cult
Posted - 2011.07.07 00:33:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Spinal Wetstone


After asking it back, he refused and threatened to murder my family,

here is the log chat for LOCAL

(local chat)[ 2011.07.03 03:48:30 ] Otto VonFaart > Spinal, the only thing I promised you is that I am going to find out who you actually are, come and visit you in person with a gun... but maybe I'll just burn your house down with you in it... maybe kill your family too. You ****ed with the wrong guy *******

(local chat) [ 2011.07.03 03:54:10 ] Otto VonFaart > cuz now you got an old, tired former USMC Viet Nam vet all ****ed off at you. And burning down houses with people in 'em is something I have lots of experience with

[ 2011.07.03 03:27:23 ]
Otto VonFaart > pal, the last lawyer that threatened to sue me had a terrible fire at his office... he almost survived.


Lets make it publically known ottoCool


Shocked Laughing

OP deserves all the griefing that he gets.

Zarah Jade
Posted - 2011.07.07 04:24:00 - [73]
 

i'm sorry...i'm a new player as well. less than 2 months and i had to lol at this thread. i love this pirate....who is it? thats what pirates do. unfortunate but fair game. i hope this aspect of eve never changes.

Drykor
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2011.07.07 10:54:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: NARYA
Edited by: NARYA on 06/07/2011 18:08:56
Originally by: Drykor
Edited by: Drykor on 06/07/2011 15:52:46
Someone ban this whiny noob. Don't need more people taking this GAME as something more and giving real life death threats over losing some pixels.
I mean sure can baiting newbies is lame but to threaten with killing someone's family is WAY out of line. If you can't see that then you really need to see a therapist.

Also, seriously **** off with your 'NAM stuff you nationalist pig.


EVE New Citizens Q&A
this part of the forum is for whiny noob



No, this part of the forum is for new people asking questions and getting answers. It's not for whiners who will threaten to KILL people IN REAL LIFE when something happened to them in a GAME about INTERNET SPACESHIPS.

Chiana Moro
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.07.07 10:55:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Riedle
Edited by: Riedle on 06/07/2011 14:38:33
That and seeing two month old newbs flying Machs


O M G where?? YARRRR!!

Hakkar'al Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.07 11:07:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: DeMichael Crimson

Lots of random raging.



Lost 2 BS and a Recon this week. Didn't cry on forums.

Sleeper 1173
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2011.07.07 11:18:00 - [77]
 

Eve is what you make it. If you make it into a PvP game for yourself, that's what it will be, but you don't have to make it into a PvP game.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.07.07 12:09:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Hakkar'al Gallente
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson

Lots of random raging.



Lost 2 BS and a Recon this week. Didn't cry on forums.



Random Rage?

Maybe.

You trolling?

Probably.


After checking your stats, I see that you're probably an Alt character that was created on 2009-02-25 that can't fly a Battleship, let alone a Tech 2 Recon Cruiser. You have 18 skills trained for a total of 756,510 skill points.

I hate to say this but who are you trying to fool? Maybe it was your main character that lost those ships and you forgot to switch characters before posting? I'm sure it wasn't due to some new player minding his own business mining ore in an Asteroid Belt.

Anyway, nice try.

ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
The Veerhouven Group
Posted - 2011.07.07 13:00:00 - [79]
 

Edited by: ACY GTMI on 07/07/2011 13:08:38
Edited by: ACY GTMI on 07/07/2011 13:01:00
Originally by: Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov
Originally by: Spinal Wetstone


(local chat) [ 2011.07.03 03:54:10 ] Otto VonFaart > cuz now you got an old, tired former USMC Viet Nam vet all ****ed off at you. And burning down houses with people in 'em is something I have lots of experience with

Shocked Laughing

OP deserves all the griefing that he gets.



I agree that he deserves to be run out of the game. As another USMC Viet Nam Era veteran, I find this quote particularly disturbing. There were instances of wanton murder of local inhabitants and destruction of property during Viet Nam, even by the Marine Corps, but not many. I figure that I paid my dues for it every time I got spit on in an airport for wearing my uniform.

In any event, many of the people who committed these acts were caught and prosecuted. Very few of them were stupid enough to brag about it afterwards.

It's very common for wannabes to make all kinds of interesting claims about what they did during their time in the military. Medal Of Honor recipients and the navy Seals are two of the groups who have committees to investigate instances of false claims, and a number of people have been caught. Unfortunately, the legal repercussions are minimal.

It is not uncommon for people who make this kind of claim to fit the following profile: If they served in the military at all they received a discharge that was other than Honorable. Emotional problems. Social outcast. Record of various minor offenses with more than one police department. Usually didn't graduate from high school or play team sports while in school.

I spent 16 years in the military before the RIF after the 1st Gulf War. Two tours with the Marines and one with the Army. MOSes that I held at various times included Infantryman, anti-tank gunner, tank commander, armored cavalry scout and TOW Missile Platoon Sergeant. I was never a member of any special military unit or organization.

Although I served during Viet Nam, Panama, Grenada, Beirut, Somalia and the first Gulf war, I never spent a second in a combat zone. I never killed anyone intentionally or by accident. I never burned down anything except a few trees after converting them to firewood. I received an Honorable Discharge in September of 1992.

Most of the people who spend time in the military will have stories very much like mine, and get very upset about people who talk a lot of crap, because they know there is no way to check it out, but have actually never done anything at all in their lives.


Edit: A final thought. I believe that the conversation in local does represent an offense that the OP can be permanently banned for, and I would appreciate it if someone would petition to have that done. I don't think the game needs any more people like the OP.

Privateeralliance Sucks
Posted - 2011.07.07 13:09:00 - [80]
 

Makes himself CEO... starts war on some1 ^^...

A bit l8r though... for now.... griefers make eve!!.. shup and pull up yer underpants... and teach those fools yo.. cos that will stop u actin like mother carebear, which in this case has gotten u a war dec... (how many times, i dont know.. but im going to l8r)

ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
The Veerhouven Group
Posted - 2011.07.07 13:12:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Privateeralliance Sucks
Makes himself CEO... starts war on some1 ^^...

A bit l8r though... for now.... griefers make eve!!.. shup and pull up yer underpants... and teach those fools yo.. cos that will stop u actin like mother carebear, which in this case has gotten u a war dec... (how many times, i dont know.. but im going to l8r)


Could you try that again in English? I'm not even sure who you are talking about.

Reeper 2435
Posted - 2011.07.07 13:59:00 - [82]
 

Spinal, this makes me want to get my main and send this to our council, another war dec is what is needed here. That is simply over the top and frankly his 'military experience' is highly probably a load of crap. Nobody i know is proud of anything one has to do to survive in those hellish situations. Light his arse an E-Fire he'll take back to WOW.

Originally by: Spinal Wetstone
Edited by: Spinal Wetstone on 06/07/2011 11:57:47
otto here is forgetting to mention that he owes me a fair bit of ISK, I wanted to help him out as a new player to this amazing game that is eve online.

After asking it back, he refused and threatened to murder my family,

here is the log chat for LOCAL

(local chat)[ 2011.07.03 03:48:30 ] Otto VonFaart > Spinal, the only thing I promised you is that I am going to find out who you actually are, come and visit you in person with a gun... but maybe I'll just burn your house down with you in it... maybe kill your family too. You ****ed with the wrong guy *******

(local chat) [ 2011.07.03 03:54:10 ] Otto VonFaart > cuz now you got an old, tired former USMC Viet Nam vet all ****ed off at you. And burning down houses with people in 'em is something I have lots of experience with

[ 2011.07.03 03:27:23 ]
Otto VonFaart > pal, the last lawyer that threatened to sue me had a terrible fire at his office... he almost survived.


Lets make it publically known ottoCool

Reeper 2435
Posted - 2011.07.07 14:12:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: ACY GTMI

..I spent 16 years in the military before the RIF after the 1st Gulf War. Two tours with the Marines and one with the Army. MOSes that I held at various times included Infantryman, anti-tank gunner, tank commander, armored cavalry scout and TOW Missile Platoon Sergeant....


Congrats to you, 14 years as a naval hospital corpsman attached to the fleet marines. Semper Fi in RL. Fly Safe, and enjoy a great game.

ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
The Veerhouven Group
Posted - 2011.07.07 15:54:00 - [84]
 

Some people may not know that the US Marines have never had any medical services of their own. Those medical services have always been provided by the US Navy. Without Navy medical personnel, there wouldn't be very many living Marines.

Riedle
Minmatar
Paradox Collective
Posted - 2011.07.07 17:48:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
Originally by: Hakkar'al Gallente
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson

Lots of random raging.



Lost 2 BS and a Recon this week. Didn't cry on forums.



Random Rage?

Maybe.

You trolling?

Probably.


After checking your stats, I see that you're probably an Alt character that was created on 2009-02-25 that can't fly a Battleship, let alone a Tech 2 Recon Cruiser. You have 18 skills trained for a total of 756,510 skill points.

I hate to say this but who are you trying to fool? Maybe it was your main character that lost those ships and you forgot to switch characters before posting? I'm sure it wasn't due to some new player minding his own business mining ore in an Asteroid Belt.

Anyway, nice try.


I be trollin' with my main

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.07.08 03:06:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: Riedle
I be trollin' with my main


Yeah, so what. Is that supposed to impress me or make me scared?



ACY GTMI, Reeper and the rest of you players, there is no proof of that chat log being true. If there was a genuine screen shot or official document from CCP, then this would be a different matter. In most country's, a person is innocent until proven guilty. Yeah, read that again. A person is innocent until proven guilty. That also applies to this game.

Over the years these forums have become filled with juvenile and petty troll post spamming, harassment griefing, lies, flame wars, etc, and quite frankly, this whole topic and the posted replies in this thread are literally p*ssing me off to no end.

Go ahead and troll quote me as much as you want, I'm done with this thread and I hope it dies quickly.

Hakkar'al Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.08 03:13:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: DeMichael Crimson


Random Rage?

Maybe.

You trolling?



No.

Originally by: DeMichael Crimson

I hate to say this but who are you trying to fool? Maybe it was your main character that lost those ships


Of course, Hakkar is my forum (and logistics contractor) alt, the main will get a carrier out the doors in a week or two if I just have the ISK. So not trying to fool anyone.

You missed the point though.


Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.07.08 03:44:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
As you said, this is a game and if that really happened in game, it could have been RP. However you seem intent on trolling this issue to death.
'

CCP doesn't accept "I was RPing" as an excuse for threatening someone's real world assets or wellbeing. Otto here certainly deserves a ban, if he was actually making those threats.

Now back on topic: if you are a young corporation and get a wardec, there's a useful guide out on the intarwebs for you: A New CEO/Employee's Guide to Surviving War Declarations. It's worth reading.

ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
The Veerhouven Group
Posted - 2011.07.08 06:49:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: DeMichael Crimson

ACY GTMI, Reeper and the rest of you players, there is no proof of that chat log being true. If there was a genuine screen shot or official document from CCP, then this would be a different matter. In most country's, a person is innocent until proven guilty. Yeah, read that again. A person is innocent until proven guilty. That also applies to this game.

Over the years these forums have become filled with juvenile and petty troll post spamming, harassment griefing, lies, flame wars, etc, and quite frankly, this whole topic and the posted replies in this thread are literally p*ssing me off to no end.

Go ahead and troll quote me as much as you want, I'm done with this thread and I hope it dies quickly.


Point taken. I've learned to expect the worst in any case related to Eve, though, and this one was kind of easy to jump on because it's kind of a niche thing.

It's easy to forget that there is a dividing line between in-game and RL. In RL, yes, innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunately, the playerbase has turned in-game into a place where you had better believe guilty until proven innocent if you want to survive.

Riedle
Minmatar
Paradox Collective
Posted - 2011.07.08 12:35:00 - [90]
 



Quote:
Yeah, so what. Is that supposed to impress me or make me scared?


You were the one puffing up your tail feathers for all to see.
I was just letting you know that I wasn’t impressed.

YARRRR!!

Quote:
Over the years these forums have become filled with juvenile and petty troll post spamming, harassment griefing, lies, flame wars, etc, and quite frankly, this whole topic and the posted replies in this thread are literally p*ssing me off to no end.


Sounds like you may need to take a break and go outside or something. lol



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