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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.05 14:35:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Will we see a more tolerant approach from people towards Amarrian religious practises and traditions as a result of this?


**** off, you racist, bigotted Amarrian bastard, and may your religion burn in the fires of Hell along with your entire culture and every proponent of it.


It's precisely intolerance like this that I was thinking of.

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.07.05 14:39:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Raze Valadeus
The only heretic between us is you, but at least you're honest about it.


Indeed I am.
A lesson you should learn instead of resulting to ignorance to pave your supposed " Amarr loyalist ways ", as many have pointed already to you.
You are not only ignorant about history of New Eden but also refuse to embrace in practice the words you so proudly utter.
Start to BE the cause you suppose to represent instead of talking the talk and avoiding walking the walk, then you'll have a start point.

As another individual already pointed out, your lack of honesty about even who you are and what you do is striking, even more than your futile words.
You're an hypocrite. In that sense at least its fair to say that this common trait of Amarr loyalists you indeed uphold bravely!

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik







Raze Valadeus
Amarr
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.07.05 14:41:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Raze Valadeus
The only heretic between us is you, but at least you're honest about it.


Indeed I am.
A lesson you should learn instead of resulting to ignorance to pave your supposed " Amarr loyalist ways ", as many have pointed already to you.
You are not only ignorant about history of New Eden but also refuse to embrace in practice the words you so proudly utter.
Start to BE the cause you suppose to represent instead of talking the talk and avoiding walking the walk, then you'll have a start point.

As another individual already pointed out, your lack of honesty about even who you are and what you do is striking, even more than your futile words.
You're an hypocrite. In that sense at least its fair to say that this common trait of Amarr loyalists you indeed uphold bravely!

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik





More judgments based on ignorance. The people who actually know me and know what I have done have more weight on this subject than you. Nice try though, better luck next time.

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.07.05 14:54:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Raze Valadeus
Nice try though, better luck next time.


I think you're missing the point: I don't need to try anything, your life speaks alone.
You betray Amarr traditions back and forth, you utter anti Amarrian heretical statements while fighting for the reclaiming inside Amarrian Militia.
Your ability to be in such discrepancy with the Faith you claim to uphold is so striking that i barely need to point that out.
All I need to do is to grant you a few seconds of my time now and sit and watch you continuing to compromise yourself with each post you do.
Make no mistake, as I said before, It serves my faith very well otherwise I wouldn't be indulging you to proceed. Your words are very profitable to my cause.

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik

Raze Valadeus
Amarr
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.07.05 15:21:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Raze Valadeus
Nice try though, better luck next time.


I think you're missing the point: I don't need to try anything, your life speaks alone.
You betray Amarr traditions back and forth, you utter anti Amarrian heretical statements while fighting for the reclaiming inside Amarrian Militia.
Your ability to be in such discrepancy with the Faith you claim to uphold is so striking that i barely need to point that out.
All I need to do is to grant you a few seconds of my time now and sit and watch you continuing to compromise yourself with each post you do.
Make no mistake, as I said before, It serves my faith very well otherwise I wouldn't be indulging you to proceed. Your words are very profitable to my cause.

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik



The only Amarr "tradition" I could even be considered betraying is that I do not practice slavery.

I have never uttered an anti-Amarrian statement. I have voiced a dissenting opinion with other Amarrians before and I have acknowledged that we are imperfect and capable of making mistakes, but I have never once spoken statements of opposition to the Amarr people or the Empire.

I claim to pursue a life lived in righteousness before God and the Scriptures as I understand them. I have never once claimed to be a representative of the orthodox Amarrian religion. My faith is in God and my pursuit of his will is my guiding drive, I have had many discussions with my brethren regarding that and have acknowledged my own misunderstandings and ignorance when presented with them.

I am sorry you feel that I am compromising myself simply because I approach situations and circumstances from a different angle than many of my brethren do. My loyalty to the Empire, the Amarrian people and God has been challenged before and I willingly answered to those challenges and was acquitted of doubt. Just because I do not respond in the same, expected manner to every situation and provocation does not make me a heretic or disloyal, it makes me an individual.

If those who are considered authorities on the orthodox Amarrian faith and loyalty to the Amarr Empire truly have doubt of where my loyalties and faith lie, they have but to approach me and discuss it with me.

On that note, Admiral Blake and I have not always seen eye-to-eye, but I would never question his loyalty to God, the Empire or his faith. I suspect that he would extend to me the same courtesy, at least giving me the opportunity to answer any of his doubts in person so that any subsequent judgment on my loyalty and faith would be an informed one.

If my willingness to acknowledge that the Empire is composed of imperfect beings, (supremacy to other imperfect beings does not automatically make someone perfect) capable of making mistakes, capable of being incorrect and capable of learning is heresy or disloyal to the Empire or the Amarrian people, then I am indeed a heretic and disloyal to the Empire. Otherwise, I am just an individual loyal to God and Empire with an understanding that we are not beyond our own sins.

Nola Doyle
NeuroGEN
Posted - 2011.07.05 15:34:00 - [36]
 

I will do my best to be in attendance.

Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.07.05 15:43:00 - [37]
 

I can personally bare this heated debate no longer.

My former Sovereign, Revan, and one of my newly found friends within the KotMC arguing over such trivial matters. Shiras, I can assure you that you've got Raze completely wrong! He's one of the nicest and most forgiving men I've met since leaving your side. One of the few individuals that accepted me for the man I was, and for the man I wish to become. I plead of you both to stop this debate and back down.

Tigerfish.

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.07.05 15:44:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2011 15:45:44
Originally by: Raze Valadeus
If my willingness to acknowledge that the Empire is composed of imperfect beings, (supremacy to other imperfect beings does not automatically make someone perfect) capable of making mistakes, capable of being incorrect and capable of learning is heresy or disloyal to the Empire or the Amarrian people, then I am indeed a heretic and disloyal to the Empire. Otherwise, I am just an individual loyal to God and Empire with an understanding that we are not beyond our own sins.


The Amarr are Gods' people. Do I need to state how heretical your words are based on this very concept? You are not only commiting heresy against the Amarr tradition but also against Divinity.
Just for sake of knowledge to the young and the ignorant of what Amarr stands for, a few examples:


"Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good.
Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land.
The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood.
But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God.
Thus they were saved and became God's chosen."
- The Scriptures, Book II 2:1


Let me highlight this: They were saved. There is no imperfection or SIN on Gods chosen people.


"Casting his sight on his realm, the Lord witnessed
The cascade of evil, the torrents of war.
Burning with wrath, He stepped
down from the Heavens
To judge the unworthy,
To redeem the pure
."
- The Scriptures, Book II, Revelations 2:12


Gods chosen are PURE.


"I give to you the destiny of Faith,
And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens:
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13

Do I need to continue pointing our how many heretical statements you have done on that single post of yours that breaks so many of the most important precepts of Amarr scriptures?
I guess not.


Yet, we found an answer to your own question:

Originally by: Raze Valadeus
If my willingness to acknowledge that the Empire is composed of imperfect beings, (supremacy to other imperfect beings does not automatically make someone perfect) capable of making mistakes, capable of being incorrect and capable of learning is heresy or disloyal to the Empire or the Amarrian people, then I am indeed a heretic and disloyal to the Empire.


You are indeed an heretical and disloyal to the Empire. And I commend you for that.

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik


Raze Valadeus
Amarr
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.07.05 15:49:00 - [39]
 

Madame Neferis,

I could go into detail about those passages and explain to you how your judgments of my character and my faith are an incorrect application of the Scriptures, but that would be a discussion better served over an appropriate venue.

I will instead respect Captain Tigerfish's request for discussion between us to be ceased here, and apologize for allowing myself to contribute to the continued derailing of this topic.


Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.07.05 15:56:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2011 15:56:20
Originally by: Raze Valadeus
Madame Neferis,

I could go into detail about those passages and explain to you how your judgments of my character and my faith are an incorrect application of the Scriptures, but that would be a discussion better served over an appropriate venue.


You are welcome to visit the Opera to make your points although if you ever dare to attempt that, come with knowledge. My former prathet can attest to you how I know Amarr traditional religion from inside out and upside down. I was one of them in times where information was given to us directly from those who mattered, not from capsuleers. I always defended the principle that to fight an enemy you must know it from inside.
So come with facts and knowledge otherwise dont even try.

And no, this will not be made by a request of my former Prathet neither by disrupting which is per se an heretical thread. This will be done simply because I am curious to see if you have the courage of your convictions.

If yes, I'll see you at Opera one of those days.
If not, we all know why.

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik

John Revenent
Caldari
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.07.05 16:12:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Tamur Theorabies
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Saturday YC113.07.09 will be the intergalactic Day of Tolerance. The purpose of the day is to educate and enlighten, to oppose prejudice and advance the pursuit of open-mindedness. It is an excellent opportunity to forget our differences and focus on what we all have in common, in the Federation and in the whole New Eden.

The celebrations will last though the whole day. The venue will be the Center for Advanced Studies (CAS) station near the moon 8 of Lisbaetanne V, in the Peccanouette constellation.

Most exciting speakers from all parts of the cluster will present informative and inspiring lectures and participate in panel discussions. The full program and a list of speakers will be published at a later date.

The discussions and the lectures will be available for public across the cluster through a dedicated FTL channel "Day of Tolerance."

Those who wish to enjoy the celebration in person, are warmly encouraged to make a small donation, which will be used to help young pilots in need, to the charity coordinator Bastian Valoron. The voluntary donation will be of course be waived from the invited guests and students of CAS.

Through understanding we can accomplish more. With our joint efforts, maybe an era of peace might be shimmering in the horizon?


A worthy initiative Mr. Theorabies.

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.05 16:21:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Rodj Blake on 05/07/2011 16:21:58
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2011 15:45:44
Originally by: Raze Valadeus
If my willingness to acknowledge that the Empire is composed of imperfect beings, (supremacy to other imperfect beings does not automatically make someone perfect) capable of making mistakes, capable of being incorrect and capable of learning is heresy or disloyal to the Empire or the Amarrian people, then I am indeed a heretic and disloyal to the Empire. Otherwise, I am just an individual loyal to God and Empire with an understanding that we are not beyond our own sins.


The Amarr are Gods' people. Do I need to state how heretical your words are based on this very concept? You are not only commiting heresy against the Amarr tradition but also against Divinity.
Just for sake of knowledge to the young and the ignorant of what Amarr stands for, a few examples:


"Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good.
Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land.
The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood.
But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God.
Thus they were saved and became God's chosen."
- The Scriptures, Book II 2:1


Let me highlight this: They were saved. There is no imperfection or SIN on Gods chosen people.


"Casting his sight on his realm, the Lord witnessed
The cascade of evil, the torrents of war.
Burning with wrath, He stepped
down from the Heavens
To judge the unworthy,
To redeem the pure
."
- The Scriptures, Book II, Revelations 2:12


Gods chosen are PURE.


"I give to you the destiny of Faith,
And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens:
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13

Do I need to continue pointing our how many heretical statements you have done on that single post of yours that breaks so many of the most important precepts of Amarr scriptures?
I guess not.



Interesting, given your earlier statements:

Originally by: Revan Neferis
This is the First premise of Bloodveil: God is dead, therefore man is free...

...The second Premise of Bloodveil: God has been a tremendous consolation, although it was a lie.

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.07.05 16:26:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2011 16:32:28
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Interesting, given your earlier statements


You are certainly not implying that I said that I follow Amarr scriptures right?
I mean.. Right?

I'll let you perceive the absurdity of your own post before I call you to shame with it.

To young capsuleers :

Originally by: Revan Neferis
This is the First premise of Bloodveil: God is dead, therefore man is free...

...The second Premise of Bloodveil: God has been a tremendous consolation, although it was a lie.



This is indeed the faith and the cult I follow, the cult of the Veil.
God to me does NOT exist.

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2011.07.05 17:55:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: John Revenent
Originally by: Tamur Theorabies
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Saturday YC113.07.09 will be the intergalactic Day of Tolerance. The purpose of the day is to educate and enlighten, to oppose prejudice and advance the pursuit of open-mindedness. It is an excellent opportunity to forget our differences and focus on what we all have in common, in the Federation and in the whole New Eden.

The celebrations will last though the whole day. The venue will be the Center for Advanced Studies (CAS) station near the moon 8 of Lisbaetanne V, in the Peccanouette constellation.

Most exciting speakers from all parts of the cluster will present informative and inspiring lectures and participate in panel discussions. The full program and a list of speakers will be published at a later date.

The discussions and the lectures will be available for public across the cluster through a dedicated FTL channel "Day of Tolerance."

Those who wish to enjoy the celebration in person, are warmly encouraged to make a small donation, which will be used to help young pilots in need, to the charity coordinator Bastian Valoron. The voluntary donation will be of course be waived from the invited guests and students of CAS.

Through understanding we can accomplish more. With our joint efforts, maybe an era of peace might be shimmering in the horizon?


A worthy initiative Mr. Theorabies.


Agreed. If at all possible I will attend myself and be happy to make a small donation to this intriguing cause. In the Fraction we've always enjoyed our visits to lesbiantown system.



Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.07.05 18:04:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine
lesbiantown system.


Now this sounds like something!


Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik

Simca Develon
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.07.05 18:21:00 - [46]
 

Think I'll try to attend, but only to watch the fights that will most likely break out.

Jesmine Kyriel
Amarr
House Kyriel Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.05 18:33:00 - [47]
 

A worthy cause, Mr. Theorabies.

Sadly you are aiming this entierly at the wrong crowd. Despite that, I'll wish you luck, and I would attend, if not very taken up in personal matters.


Aldrith Shutaq
Amarr
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.07.05 18:53:00 - [48]
 

Bravo, Squire Valadeus.

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.05 19:16:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Revan Neferis

God to me does NOT exist.



Then I suggest that you are not the best person to lecture others on their ability to follow the Scriptures.

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.07.05 19:21:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Revan Neferis

God to me does NOT exist.



Then I suggest that you are not the best person to lecture others on their ability to follow the Scriptures.


Your suggestion is as usual, discarded, as I, myself seem to know better about the faith I once followed than many of your new batch of lads there.
Instead of making me silly suggestions, I instead suggest you to try to get your own people at least close to something that reminds New Eden of what Amarr Tradition really is.
That would be a good start for you old man, perhaps a new quest.

And no pun intended, believe it or not I do mean it.
I suddenly miss Gaius Kador on this regard.

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik

John Revenent
Caldari
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.07.05 19:32:00 - [51]
 

After checking my schedule I will be attending, you can expect a donation as well. Tolerance is something many have chosen to abandon, it is good to see someone trying to make a genuine effort to create change during such dark times brought on through intolerance.

Graelyn
Amarr
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2011.07.05 19:48:00 - [52]
 

Mr. Theorabies:

You seek to bridge a very wide crevass.
I shall attend, and provide what insight I can.

-CrdGrae

PS: Pay no heed to these idiots. The loudest opinions are often the most worthless.

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.05 19:59:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Revan Neferis

God to me does NOT exist.



Then I suggest that you are not the best person to lecture others on their ability to follow the Scriptures.


Your suggestion is as usual, discarded, as I, myself seem to know better about the faith I once followed than many of your new batch of lads there.
Instead of making me silly suggestions, I instead suggest you to try to get your own people at least close to something that reminds New Eden of what Amarr Tradition really is.
That would be a good start for you old man, perhaps a new quest.

And no pun intended, believe it or not I do mean it.
I suddenly miss Gaius Kador on this regard.




KotMC have been made aware of their failings in the past, and I'm sure that they will again in the future.

But for someone who claims to know about Amarrian ways, you seem frighfully ignorant of the fact that we prefer to do such things in private.

It's more dignified that way.

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.07.05 20:10:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2011 20:14:14
Originally by: Rodj Blake
KotMC have been made aware of their failings in the past, and I'm sure that they will again in the future.


You seem to be growing soft with time Mr Blake.
Something that I'm not yet sure if displeases me, or makes me happy.

Originally by: Rodj Blake
But for someone who claims to know about Amarrian ways, you seem frighfully ignorant of the fact that we prefer to do such things in private.


I don't claim, I do know everything and a bit more about Amarrian ways, But it's hardly applicable to your argument considering that so many public scandals have been witnessed on this very IGS of late regarding Amarrian loyalists bickering and lecturing each other like the vermins and ants use to do.
And this is part your fault too Blake for allowing this new generation to behave like that.

Originally by: Rodj Blake
It's more dignified that way.


For those who engage on the traditional Amarrian ways, yes. But as I stated above, hardly something you can claim before you and yours start to restore the Amarrian traditions back to what it once were.

Again, don't take it as a criticism. I do believe that it's your duty and the duty of your house to start such quest.
I praise good enemies as much as I praise good lovers and allied. It's a shame to see the Amarr tradition so tainted by the new generation embracing it.


Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik



Nidia Masters
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.07.05 21:27:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: Nidia Masters on 05/07/2011 21:28:48
Maybe we should consider sending some friends over, hmmm, Lady Revan?

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.07.05 21:36:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2011 21:44:45
Originally by: Nidia Masters
Maybe we should consider sending some friends over, hmmm, Lady Revan?


Mmmm... very tempting but I'm still observing if there will be any important target worth of my interest, aka, profitable to justify intervention.
So far I just see a bunch of commoners attempting to drink some tea and discuss some silly concept ( of course an exception of my lover which I'm sure has her own plans and ideas to use this commoner event to her benefit. )

But, Incase I spot a good target as I stated, we will entertain the thought of sending a few spaceships to paint the skies crimson.
I'll let you know dearest.

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik


Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2011.07.05 22:10:00 - [57]
 


I consider myself every bit as "common" as those I intend to speak to. The wonderful thing about capsuleer-transhumanism is the innate democratization of political interaction. Still, the wonder of events in space is the chance for animosity to be played out for real across the tapestry of stars - and it would be a great shame for boasts to go untested if there is desire for display.



Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.07.05 22:14:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine

I consider myself every bit as "common" as those I intend to speak to.


I know of your insanities beauty, as I can only smile at the statement. I love your exquisite fetishes.

Originally by: Jade Constantine
Still, the wonder of events in space is the chance for animosity to be played out for real across the tapestry of stars - and it would be a great shame for boasts to go untested if there is desire for display.


I certainly agree. May I find an interesting enemy worth of my time and to who I'll profit with it, as I already stated, I see no reason as why not entertaining the thought.
It's not like it will be the first nor the last time that something like this would happen.

* blows a kiss *

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik

Katrina Oniseki
Caldari
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.07.05 22:14:00 - [59]
 

I suspect I will find myself there as well, visiting, among all the various others. I do hope I can find myself flying home, rather than waking up in a clone.

Judging by this thread though, it seems as though the event is likely to be marred by an eruption of hostilities.

Lyn Farel
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.07.06 00:26:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Lyn Farel on 06/07/2011 00:34:45
Lord Valadeus, you should not bother so much with some individuals, for the simple reason that their main arguments are fundamentally flawed or irrationnal. Be them unable to construct any rationnal and logical deduction or fantasizing about Scriptures. The best way to help your ideals expressed above might be to ignore what capsuleers commonly call "trolls". I don't have to remind you what their unique purpose usually is.

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Raze Valadeus
Unfortunately that statement alone proves how little you know of me, Mister Ixiris, but that is fine. You've made no attempt to know me any better nor do I believe you care to try.

I suppose it was my own folly to think you capable of seeing beyond your own self-righteousness even for a moment.


You serve the Knighthood of the Merciful Crown. The KotMC serves the 24th Imperial Crusade. The 24th Imperial Crusade's single objective is the military subjugation of Minmatar space.

Explain to me how providing military aid to the 24IC does not constitute assisting it in that goal.


A => B => C does not imply A => C.

Originally by: Revan Neferis
Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2011 13:53:53
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Raze Valadeus
The irony of this thread is plainly apparent but I will make it even more apparent, a thread about tolerance and acceptance has been undermined with the usual angry, hostile and aggressive rhetoric common to the IGS.


Which part of the "Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius" have you skipped at the Theology Council obligatory teachings?


Originally by: Raze Valadeus
The part that indicates how it has any relevance whatsoever the original poster or his stated purpose with this event.


So not only you state that you deliberately choose to ignore the very premise of Amarr divine right to Supremacy but also state that an heretical event shall be supported by your endorsement?

Wow, this gets better by the day. No wonder why the tradional Amarr faith holds the shameful state of affairs reflected on voices like yours. So much for reclaiming of "vermins and ants" hum?

Do carry on with your heresy, needless to say, it serves me well.

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik






1) There cannot be any heresy where there is no scripture violation.

2) There cannot be any heresy where there is no Theology Council declaration of heresy, which is directly related to 1).



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