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Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.05 06:38:00 - [1]
 

So many threads going on now about the acrid new players experience in EVE has gotten me pondering on this topic. Though many of the solutions suggested in the other threads are not viable nor effective (the ones that basically amount to 'cheat' boosts for noobs) I believe the problem is a valid one.

What if the game (as in NPCs) were to award players with medals for achievements? Carebear stuff for Faction empires, Kills and PVP achievements from pirate factions. Something like the medal system in FW. Make these medals visible to all. What this addresses is that newbies lack direction, or a 'goal' in the beginning. They may be coming from linear progression games like WOW or other simple MMOs. They aren't used to the sandbox. They are overwhelmed with all the choices. The career agents go a LONG way, but the sense of achievement is still a little lacking. Give them trophies for mission grinding, for being a good miner... etc. I think may go a long way to give beginners something to strive for, at least until they get their sealegs and venture out on their own.

Some medal ideas:

Missions done (by department)
Standing level achieved
Types of Asteroids mined
Amount of Asteroids mined
Faction loyalty, X mission for a faction etc.
Kills achieved. (by enemy NPC, capsuleer)
Courier contracts completed

Open to any other ideas, comments.

This is very much an idea only... any constructive criticism appreciated.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University

Posted - 2011.07.17 10:49:00 - [2]
 

Would be nice to get some medals for a few of those things. Definitely would make them feel like something is being accomplished right at the start as well as giving some short term goals.

J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.17 12:05:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: J Kunjeh on 17/07/2011 12:05:03
I like the idea. Gives carebears a little something extra to go after.

Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
draketrain

Posted - 2011.07.17 15:34:00 - [4]
 

hahhah i support this product

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.07.17 15:49:00 - [5]
 

This is not achievements online. Try to set your own goals and show some imagination Rolling Eyes

Lakuma
Posted - 2011.07.17 16:07:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
This is not achievements online. Try to set your own goals and show some imagination Rolling Eyes


Considering FW already has this...

...and that the existing tier system perpetuates this idea...

...I don't really see a problem with it. Carebears will be carebears. Make it where my killmails show these ranks and such so I can change the start of my story from "So I killed this carebear..." to "I killed this carebear that looked like a mexican general..."

In all seriousness I don't see anything wrong with this at all, but I think development time is better spent elsewhere. Hisec has all the features it really needs for the time being - low and null could use more love, as well as features like FW that got left in the dust after launch. Players who spend time getting achievements isn't an issue, if anything achievements that require players to work together strengthen the community.

That being said - I'd rather see achievements for null, low, and wh LONG before I see them in hisec. Living in hisec isn't an achievement. It's where you started. It's the safest place in EVE. There is very little adversity or difficulty spaceship wise (marketing is cut-throat at least!)

Dirk Decibel
Posted - 2011.07.17 19:37:00 - [7]
 

I want this, if only so that ppl will rage against bears for it. Laughing

Rented
Posted - 2011.07.17 23:06:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
This is not achievements online. Try to set your own goals and show some imagination Rolling Eyes


Almost anything that will incur the wrath of trolls and emo nullsec fanatics is good imo.

Seamus Donohue
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.18 11:41:00 - [9]
 

I'm on the fence on this one.

That said, if it were implemented, then the easiest way to do it would be a Decoration awarded by NPC corporations and/or factions. So, ORE awarding decorations for asteroids mined, an NPC corporation awarding decorations for missions run, and so on. That way, we're using the existing mechanisms rather than creating new mechanisms.

Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.18 14:00:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Lakuma
Originally by: Lady Spank
This is not achievements online. Try to set your own goals and show some imagination Rolling Eyes


Considering FW already has this...

...and that the existing tier system perpetuates this idea...

...I don't really see a problem with it. Carebears will be carebears. Make it where my killmails show these ranks and such so I can change the start of my story from "So I killed this carebear..." to "I killed this carebear that looked like a mexican general..."

In all seriousness I don't see anything wrong with this at all, but I think development time is better spent elsewhere. Hisec has all the features it really needs for the time being - low and null could use more love, as well as features like FW that got left in the dust after launch. Players who spend time getting achievements isn't an issue, if anything achievements that require players to work together strengthen the community.

That being said - I'd rather see achievements for null, low, and wh LONG before I see them in hisec. Living in hisec isn't an achievement. It's where you started. It's the safest place in EVE. There is very little adversity or difficulty spaceship wise (marketing is cut-throat at least!)


BUT, hisec has the community that sees the most attrition in the game. And everyone has known one or more friends who started the game only to quit a week later. lowsec and nullsec players are very unlikely to pickup and leave the game, having invested so much into it already, so, sadly, CCP can ignore them more while still keeping the 'greater population' happy.

Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.18 14:03:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Seamus Donohue
I'm on the fence on this one.

That said, if it were implemented, then the easiest way to do it would be a Decoration awarded by NPC corporations and/or factions. So, ORE awarding decorations for asteroids mined, an NPC corporation awarding decorations for missions run, and so on. That way, we're using the existing mechanisms rather than creating new mechanisms.


Yes this is a good idea. It will also add to the RP dimension. I think that if EVE can get more of the single player rpers, they once they get hooked (and get enough money to afford a couple of lost ships) they will come around to enjoy the other parts of the game (low and null).

Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
Posted - 2011.07.18 14:06:00 - [12]
 

Supported with the reservation that I should be able to salvage those medals off your frozen corpse :)

Dariah Stardweller
Gallente
NO U111 Enterprises
Posted - 2011.07.18 16:41:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Ya Huei
Supported with the reservation that I should be able to salvage those medals off your frozen corpse :)

I like that idea.

Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.19 12:40:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
Originally by: Ya Huei
Supported with the reservation that I should be able to salvage those medals off your frozen corpse :)

I like that idea.


fine by me as long as you can drop your FW and decorations as well.
PS I'm being sarcastic, to those of you who are smart alecs.


 

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