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Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.03 09:52:00 - [301]
 

Originally by: Thornat
Its the 10,000 less people who used to be on every Friday night at 9pm that suddenly went missing, those are the ones that have very successfully sent the message to CCP. And unfortunatly their exodus is probobly permenant.



they dont care.
Even with the missing people they dont care. Theyre showing that by not listening to us, Hilmar's letter, an the sweeping changes to high sec that are gonna pis everyone off there. Thats admittedly 80% of the population theyre ****ing off and THEY DONT CARE
Its fairly obvious they dont want this game to succeed anymore for some reason.

xxxTRUSTxxx
Posted - 2011.09.03 10:35:00 - [302]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Kudos to CCP for defeating the uprising and retaining the right to break your game and wreck your company's financial future. Well played, CCP.

Here are 10 reasons (in no particular order) I think we lost:

1. Lack of a coherent message by the protesters.

2. Lack of buy-in from the leadership of any large alliance or any truly charismatic/well-spoken individual capable of getting GDI buy-in (to consolidate messaging/actions.)

3. Staggered subscription expiry.

4. Skill queues and POS fuel.

5. Prisoner's dilemma. (free riders)

6. EVE's ingrained culture of trolls and fanbois (plus the ability to post anonymously.)

7. The lack of alternative engaging sandbox games.

8. CSM willing to be bought off for a few drinks.

9. Large portion of the playerbase (including Mynxee! ugh) willing to be bought off with a few almost-meaningless words.

10. CCP stall tactics and counterintelligence/war propaganda (via dev alts)

Did I miss any?


yes you missed the main point of the whole thing.

NO game changing MT's

personaly and i get the feeling most of the eve community doesn't give a ****e if people are willing to spend real life money of clothes for their dolly.

people where not happy at the thought that CCP might introduce game changing MT's into eve, such as the so called gold ammo and so on.

CCP stated that they never intended to do this and won't be doing this, the community was in uproar, the demo's where all over gaming news sites, CCP called an emergency meetings with the CSM, the CSM members made a huge effort to get to iceland, we got a statement from CCP.

this post is all about one thing, which you pointed out lol

1. Lack of a coherent message by the protesters. (in this case you) Laughing

some people knew what was going on, some didn't care, some thought hey i'll just jump on the band wagon with my own personal whine.

we got a result, wtf do you want ? blood ?

Richard Hammond II
Posted - 2011.09.03 10:47:00 - [303]
 

Originally by: xxxTRUSTxxx


CCP stated that they never intended to do this and won't be doing this, the community was in uproar, the demo's where all over gaming news sites, CCP called an emergency meetings with the CSM, the CSM members made a huge effort to get to iceland, we got a statement from CCP.




"Greed is Good" an Hilmar's letter spoke far louder than their supposed "we promise not to" statement

xxxTRUSTxxx
Posted - 2011.09.03 11:00:00 - [304]
 

Edited by: xxxTRUSTxxx on 03/09/2011 11:00:42
Originally by: Richard Hammond II
Originally by: xxxTRUSTxxx


CCP stated that they never intended to do this and won't be doing this, the community was in uproar, the demo's where all over gaming news sites, CCP called an emergency meetings with the CSM, the CSM members made a huge effort to get to iceland, we got a statement from CCP.




"Greed is Good" an Hilmar's letter spoke far louder than their supposed "we promise not to" statement


he's running a company, companies are about making money. are you really surprised CCP are trying to find new ways to make a bigger profit ?

what i'm fearful of is this, NEX ****e sells, profits increase, Hilmar goes mmmm nice, invest more cash into the art/fashion which might lead to less being spent on departments that we'd like to see investments in.


Trixie Stardust
Posted - 2011.09.03 11:46:00 - [305]
 

Edited by: Trixie Stardust on 03/09/2011 11:56:13
Originally by: xxxTRUSTxxx
he's running a company, companies are about making money. are you really surprised CCP are trying to find new ways to make a bigger profit ?


But they became successful by being different. Why change that now.. why, CCP why.. we liked you when you were cool, now your just "the man." Neutral

Richard Hammond II
Posted - 2011.09.03 12:39:00 - [306]
 

Originally by: xxxTRUSTxxx


what i'm fearful of is this, NEX ****e sells, profits increase, Hilmar goes mmmm nice, invest more cash into the art/fashion which might lead to less being spent on departments that we'd like to see investments in.




We're ALREADY seeing that - what was the last spaceships upgrade made that wasnt related to WiS

What IM really worried is they see the money they COULD be making with non vanity items.

Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
Posted - 2011.09.03 15:25:00 - [307]
 

Originally by: xxxTRUSTxxx

he's running a company, companies are about making money. are you really surprised CCP are trying to find new ways to make a bigger profit ?



At what expense? You can make $500 a day for a week, or a steady $250 for a fair few years.... I know what I'd go for.


Epic DaSoto
Posted - 2011.09.03 15:55:00 - [308]
 

It failed, much like the latest protest and riots in London failed - because most of the rioters were arsehats and didn't have the support of the general population.



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