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Blackjack 3v3
Posted - 2011.07.04 19:44:00 - [1]
 

Why do you need a longer skill Q ?

Simple, summer, not much play time, vacation and other stuff trying not to log in this dam game every day to place a stupid skill.

The most frustrating thing is when I want a skill at lvl 5 and lvl 4 takes over 24h and I need to w8 out the time to be able to place lvl 5.

If Eve is such a game that is rewarding me for not playing can I have a longer skill Q so I can not play all summer and not lose SP.

Trolling removed. Zymurgist

Kirkland Langue
Posted - 2011.07.04 19:48:00 - [2]
 

I'm cool with a 365 day queue. Log in once per year to change skills.

Xercodo
Amarr
Xovoni Directorate
Posted - 2011.07.04 19:48:00 - [3]
 

both, flaming plane crash

good luck getting this implemented within the next year if at all

i don't feel like arguing against the idea, just pointing out how unrealistic it is to try to get it to happen...

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.07.04 19:49:00 - [4]
 

Could always opt to just train different skills to level 5 instead if you simply can't find 5 minutes of your time to login and honestly, you'll only have to login for 5 minutes on 1 day to train the skill to 5 after the queue for 4 gets to less than 1 hour, it's not that big of a deal...



Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.04 19:55:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Blackjack 3v3
If Eve is such a game that is rewarding me for not playing
It is not, so no you can't.

And anyway, unless you have some severe sleeping disorder, 24h should be plenty for the purpose of the queue.

Drykor
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2011.07.04 19:59:00 - [6]
 

You don't have to login every day. All you need is a long skill. A few level V's should easily get you through summer if you can't be arsed logging in for shorter stuff.

Blackjack 3v3
Posted - 2011.07.04 20:01:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Suitonia
Could always opt to just train different skills to level 5 instead if you simply can't find 5 minutes of your time to login and honestly, you'll only have to login for 5 minutes on 1 day to train the skill to 5 after the queue for 4 gets to less than 1 hour,[24h] it's not that big of a deal...





I can find time to log in when I`m home however I`ll be away for 2 weeks - every few months or so I have to travel ( rl stuff ) , I don`t think I`m the only player in eve who can`t log in every single day, and when the lvl 4 takes a few days then I MUST log in when I need to place the lvl 5 if not I`ll lose SP until I get back.


Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2011.07.04 20:03:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Flynn Fetladral on 04/07/2011 20:05:40

I don't see what the big issue is personally. Remember, there never used to be a skill Q at all. Try to have a long level V skill lined up for when you might be away which you can just drop into a skill plan when and if needed. If your away for two weeks at a time every two or three months is seriously easy to plan your skill training to make sure your covered.

B00T INI
Posted - 2011.07.04 20:04:00 - [9]
 

Some people don't have computers, they should make the game playable with pen & paper.

Blackjack 3v3
Posted - 2011.07.04 20:05:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Blackjack 3v3
If Eve is such a game that is rewarding me for not playing
It is not, so no you can't.

And anyway, unless you have some severe sleeping disorder, 24h should be plenty for the purpose of the queue.


Sorry But I think it is for casual players like myself I only need to play 3/4h a day time for a month then I can pay for my account for a year. However I do not , I play for 1/2h a day time for 2 months Laughing

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.07.04 20:12:00 - [11]
 

Eve-gate skill change interface = WIN.

Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
Posted - 2011.07.04 20:35:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Eve-gate skill change interface = WIN.


Since this is a new game we all playing I will pay up to 29.99$ for a new better and improved Skill Queue, if I can make it a week long one for 39.99 or perhaps a year long one for 69.99 I would pay it. It's about the money anyway, so lets trash this game. 1 year long skill queues, I would pay for it for all my alts and main Very Happy

Lu'Marat
Posted - 2011.07.04 21:33:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Lu''Marat on 04/07/2011 21:36:58
I really wouldn't mind a longer Queue, either.

I mean, I'm sure we can agree that it would be handy, for people who can't log in for a while, for people who don't want to keep fiddling with their learning, etc. If you are not one of these, changing the queue will not affect you, in any way.

So question is, what ARE the arguments against a longer queue? For the longest time we didn't have any queue at all, it was log back in in half an hour for that level II or waste the time till you can. Of course, while skills kept training on an unsubbed account that would've been bad business for CCP, but as characters stop training now soon after their subscription runs out, that's off the table.

So, is there any reason why we wouldn't want a longer queue, apart from "I don't need it, why do you, noob?" For that matter, why can't we change the queue from, say, EVE Mon? How does the game benefit from requiring people to log on, click four buttons, log off? I reckon a longer queue wouldn't even be difficult to implement, so it's not even a matter of "spend your time on important stuff."

Cyaxares II
Posted - 2011.07.04 21:38:00 - [14]
 

how much AUR would you be willing to pay for one year of "extended skill queue" service?

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.04 21:38:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Lu'Marat
So question is, what ARE the arguments against a longer queue?
People would log in less.
A day is only 24h long, so the queue only needs to be 24h long to serve its purpose.

Hannibal Ord
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.07.04 21:38:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Eve-gate skill change interface = WIN.


^^ This

Lu'Marat
Posted - 2011.07.04 21:45:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Lu''Marat on 04/07/2011 21:53:13
Originally by: Tippia
People would log in less.
A day is only 24h long, so the queue only needs to be 24h long to serve its purpose.



Again, what's the problem with that? There are plenty of people who keep a sub running only to keep their characters training, and litterally log in, click four buttons, log off. What's the benefit of this? I highly doubt it's about keeping them interested in the game, if they weren't interested in the first place then they would hardly keep paying their subs.

The question is not, does the queue serve it's purpose, the question is, why shouldn't it do more than it does right now if there's people who'd benefit from that?

Lu'Marat
Posted - 2011.07.04 21:51:00 - [18]
 

I mean, take my case.

I have a sub running, but half a week ago my computer died, and with EVE now requiring Shader 3 it works on none of my older machines, nor on the other machines I have easy access to. The only way for me to access EVE right now is to go to a game cafe, or ask a friend of mine for five minutes on his machine. Buddy's busy too though, so I don't do that on a daily basis. So right now, I have some level V skill training that I don't really need, but it's either this or letting my character go idle. At the same time, there's plenty of low-level stuff that I do have use for, but which I can't train right now because I'd need daily access to fill my queue.

Cinzia Nova
Posted - 2011.07.04 21:56:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: B00T INI
Some people don't have computers, they should make the game playable with pen & paper.



^^ this, best idea EVER!!!

Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr
Indicium Technologies
Hephaestus Forge Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.04 22:08:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Cyaxares II
how much AUR would you be willing to pay for one year of "extended skill queue" service?


^^This.

Medidranda Livoga
Posted - 2011.07.04 22:14:00 - [21]
 

There are no real arguments against queue, just belief that making game more inconvenient somehow makes people play more. Twisted Evil

Personally queue should be as allowed to be as long as your current paid subscription time is. This might also tempt some people to aquire longer subs. And they should make evemon official part of EVE. Cool

Gunter Keppler
Posted - 2011.07.04 22:18:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Lu'Marat
Edited by: Lu''Marat on 04/07/2011 21:53:13
Originally by: Tippia
People would log in less.
A day is only 24h long, so the queue only needs to be 24h long to serve its purpose.



Again, what's the problem with that? There are plenty of people who keep a sub running only to keep their characters training, and litterally log in, click four buttons, log off. What's the benefit of this? I highly doubt it's about keeping them interested in the game, if they weren't interested in the first place then they would hardly keep paying their subs.

The question is not, does the queue serve it's purpose, the question is, why shouldn't it do more than it does right now if there's people who'd benefit from that?


The question is: how long should the skill queue become? 48h? 72h? No matter how long it is, there will always be a reason for someone to say "hey, couldn't it be longer?". "I'm getting a baby soon... the skill queue is 96h now... but why can't it be 6 months, so I don't have to log in until my baby doesn't need any breast feeding?" (Just making a point here, no offense against women ;) )
then comes a clever guy, asking like you "what's the problem with that"? Sure, technically, it IS possible. The question is, where will you stop afterwards and what's useful?
Maybe a year? Where is the sense in keeping the subscription if you are not logging in for several months or a year? 360000 subscription and no one online during the summer... great, ask the traders what would happen ;)

And in case of emergency: there ARE skills taking up to 72-96 days, requesting no longer skill queue ;)

Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
Posted - 2011.07.04 22:26:00 - [23]
 

ITT: People who weren't around before the skill queue was implemented.

You have less than zero reason to complain, stop being a little *****.

Jaehawn
Posted - 2011.07.04 23:05:00 - [24]
 

Just offer to pay money and CCP will jump on it. Will fit in with their new business model. Call it gold skill que.

Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Spycotics
Posted - 2011.07.05 00:33:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Blackjack 3v3



PS: To every troll that will answer with "you need a cash shop item for a longer skill Q" hope they die in a fire or a car/airplane crash w/e comes first.




You have some serious issues mate.

Boaz Hedion Merkava
Posted - 2011.07.05 00:41:00 - [26]
 

I am, and will remain in favour of what we currently have: 24h skill queues. Pushing the boundaries on everything this trivial just doesn't work for me.

Mira Noan
Posted - 2011.07.05 00:41:00 - [27]
 

EVE only lets you train 50 skills at a time anyway, don't ask me why, tried it once, was entertaining.

Lillyaee
Posted - 2011.07.05 00:44:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Eve-gate skill change interface = WIN.

Bane Loppknow
Pel Industries
Posted - 2011.07.05 01:24:00 - [29]
 

This is the type of thing that would fit nicely into the NEX Store. Default queue stays 24 hours, but NEX allows you to purchase longer queues that last, say, a month. So for one month you can queue 3/4/whatever days of skills, then it reverts back to one.

Solosky
Posted - 2011.07.05 01:24:00 - [30]
 

After CCP opened Aurum Pandora's box I expect every thread with idea or request will be accompanied with questions "how much aurum you can offer for this?"

Frankly, from now on I don't see any point for CCP to implement any features/content for "subscribers 1.0" while they can offer them for aurum / additional payments.

Something like "Want 30 days long queue? That's fine, 1000 aurum for one-time extension, 3000 for permanent."

(5 days of subscription left)


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