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Aamrr
Posted - 2011.07.04 13:40:00 - [1]
 

Let us train multiple characters on the same account. Yes, I know it's been suggested before -- but it's just as relevant today as it was then. CCP is suffering a budget shortfall, and this is a service that players have been requesting for a long time.

Yes, we can purchase multiple accounts. No, not all of us wish to do that. A second account means either a long-term investment, doubling subscription fees, or a two-plex transfer fee.

With Aurum, we now have a level of granularity for our purchases. We could sell a month of training time for the full 3500 aurum, or perhaps offer decreased times at higher rates -- such as 900 Aurum for one week's training.

As a person with two accounts already, I could use this service to train a cyno alt on each account without delaying the progression of the primary characters on that account. I'm sure I'm not the only one that would take advantage of this service.

It works within the existing plex system. It doesn't let us sidestep the training mechanic like PLEX for SP would. And it's additional revenue.

Surely this would put a nice spin on the past week? I know I'd feel a lot better about the NEX store if it offered a few helpful services.

Toovhon
Posted - 2011.07.05 05:13:00 - [2]
 

Dude, if you're not making enough in 0.0 or WHs (or even many highsec activities!) to fund another account with PLEX, you're doing something wrong.

Hell, even setting up a nearly totally passive income research alt, will fund itself and a second or even third account with PLEX bought via it's datacore and blueprint research profits.

I mean this is not hard. Yes - it requires an initial rep grind and training time (OMG! I actually have to play the game to achieve what I want!), but once setup it requires only a few minutes maintenance per week, and the ISK rolls in (I should know - cause it's exactly what I do).

People need to stop whinging, and do the hard work to get the reward later on. Bunch of lazy selft-entitled crybabies... ugg.

Comy 1
Ore Mongers
Indecisive Certainty
Posted - 2011.07.05 20:47:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Toovhon
Dude, if you're not making enough in 0.0 or WHs (or even many highsec activities!) to fund another account with PLEX, you're doing something wrong.

Hell, even setting up a nearly totally passive income research alt, will fund itself and a second or even third account with PLEX bought via it's datacore and blueprint research profits.

I mean this is not hard. Yes - it requires an initial rep grind and training time (OMG! I actually have to play the game to achieve what I want!), but once setup it requires only a few minutes maintenance per week, and the ISK rolls in (I should know - cause it's exactly what I do).

People need to stop whinging, and do the hard work to get the reward later on. Bunch of lazy selft-entitled crybabies... ugg.


The OPs suggestion is actually very useful for alot of reasons. Let's say you need a cyno or hauler alt that don't really require alot of skillpoints. It might not be worth to keep plexing a new account for this simple use, but paying a one time fee on a plex for a 2nd temporary training slot would.

I actually like this.

Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar
Clan Hyena

Posted - 2011.07.06 12:38:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Alejan Gerakh on 06/07/2011 12:47:27
(EDIT: Changed the title of my thread - it's now: [Proposal] PLEX for Dual-Training on Same Account)

Hey, how come I didn't notice this before? I made another thread on the same topic only half-a-day later with a bit more descriptive a title.

Re-quoting, and linking, my thread's OP (with minor edits to pull out my introductory lead-in on the topic).

[Proposal] PLEX for Game Time, but Different - Alternative to MT
Originally by: Alejan Gerakh
... Not only would this be invaluable for certain players, but it keeps with the idea of PLEX for game time, and ultimately isn't game-breaking or -altering or whatever, from what I can tell, but I'd let my fellow pilots be the judge.

Not to mention it means another way to consume PLEXes besides just extending your account's play time that doesn't involve a secondary currency. I figure it could allow anything around a full month (adjusted if needed) worth of dual-character training time per PLEX, especially since it's more restricting than having two accounts (only one can be active at a time, of course), but ultimately you'd be 'paying' the same amount. I imagine the amount of time it affords would have to be fine-tuned for said balance, against both dual-boxing subscriptions and maybe even character transfers.

But, suffice to say, I prefer to use one account and essentially 'pay' (this would only be appealing to those who can afford PLEX in ISK, since dual-boxing would probably be more cost-effective with real money) for a second to allow parallel character development.

Also, in-lore/-universe, for those who are RP-concerned, it would be as if the other character was 'renewing' his pilot's license.

What say my fellow capsuleers? Sensible? Already suggested and trounced?

EDIT:
(pulled from one of my later posts) I personally like the idea of training a secondary character on the same account for not necessarily all the time- just often enough to get a few useful skills for a secondary character, but still being able to use it even if I haven't given him extra training time, which I couldn't do with a proper alt account. Admittedly, it has selective use, but it could be a useful feature to ease someone into wanting to use a proper alt, or it could result in people consolidating accounts if they have a vastly large number that they just can't reasonably multibox.
...
Besides, I can't imagine this taking that much work to implement... but maybe it's just that hard-wired into the account system?

(I also reworded the part talking about the amount of time dual-training - suffice to say, the system would need to be balanced in such a way as to be considered useful even when compared to multi-boxing, as I also stated in the original post, and have now added emphasis to)

Tristin Del'astakhos
Gallente
Lonetrek Trade and Industries
Rolling Thunder.
Posted - 2011.07.07 11:00:00 - [5]
 

First off, I don't care if this happens or not. With that said, I don't see this ever happening...

1. Second accounts cost the same as main accounts. Currently you have to have a second account to do this. Why on earth would CCP create one smaller revenue stream to to kill a much larger revenue stream?

2. Some players train up alts and then transfer them to their main accounts when the training goal is reached. Both the training up and the act of transfer cost money which nets CCP profit. Take in to account that a lot of these people pay for the 2nd account with Plex, so in reality that second plexed account nets CCP even more money than the main.

The only way I see CCP doing this is to make it cost the same as having a second account. Which would be silly on CCP's part because it would cost them development time and money to create a system with 0 chance of company profits.

Reaver Glitterstim
Legio Geminatus
Posted - 2011.07.29 10:40:00 - [6]
 

I like your basic idea, but I think you've got the implementation all wrong. It's as simple as this: pay double subscription and be allowed to train 2 toons at once on your account. This has the advantage of you being able to cancel the second subscription and still use the character, and the disadvantage of only being able to log into one character at a time. Seems fair to me.

I know which option I'd choose, and it's not the one I already have.


 

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