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Olvel
Posted - 2011.07.06 14:22:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: Zeet A'Dron
Incarna adds nothing the core player really wants.

Incarna doesn't add much, that's for sure. I can't say I'm all that amazed with my little in-station apartment... But I do want Incarna. I want the rest of what it promises - the complete experience of walking around inside a station, or in a ship, or on a planet.

From the very beginning, CCP has talked about EVE being a complete sci-fi universe. And I've loved that idea since the first day I started playing. Sure, internet spaceships are fun... But I couldn't wait to see how people lived in those stations I was visiting... What the surface of those planets looked like... What the halls of my own ship looked like...

I've always wanted the complete EVE experience - not just internet spaceships. And I'm thrilled that we're finally seeing some of it.

Isabelle Evotori
Posted - 2011.07.06 14:23:00 - [122]
 

Yes we DO want incarna. what we don't want is whining little pricks like you

Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.06 14:30:00 - [123]
 

I love Incarna, I like it so much, that I want to see much more of it.

Different CQ, War rooms, public areas for players to meet and trade illegal boosters... I could add a lot of details and much more to this list. Incarna, as it is now is just a platform, the very basic feature that a lot of possible future content depend on.Cool

Frank Torres
Posted - 2011.07.06 14:44:00 - [124]
 

Sometimes people who play the game 365 days a year don't see the improvements. I had to leave in 2007 when they ditched the old client, my computer was so old that I couldn't run the Trinity client. I got a new PC a few months ago and came back to the game and it looks fantastic with lots more to do and a huge amount of ships added, plus Wormholes etc. Then Incarna gets released that adds a whole new dimension to the game, granted it is not much yet but multiplayer is being added later in the year and racial CQ are being added over the next few months. I like this expansion and the potential is huge.

I think some players should realize that this game is turning into a more complete Sci-Fi universe and not just about spaceships. I for one welcome it but I understand some players may not.

Maybe sometime time in the future we'll get an Archaeology type mission that starts in space flying ships but finishes on some planet, controlling your avatar Mirror's Edge style Smile Yeah I know that type of mission will be years into the future if ever, but the potential is there and I hope the development eventually leads to that style of Universe as long as the complexity of the game remains intact.

Rico Minali
Gallente
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.07.06 14:48:00 - [125]
 

YOU do not want incarna. I do, so do a great many people.

Storm X4
Posted - 2011.07.06 14:50:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Zeet A'Dron
I am feeling like the main message is lost. Clearly Incarna is an expansion that offers very little to the devout Eve player. The last 6 months have been nothing but nerfs and subtractions. The JB nerfs, the skill changes, agents, other stuff i'm forgetting. Take a look at the indy indicies throughout null sec. There are some big problems snowballing while you siphen off all the cash from Eve.

STop trying to invent ways to overheat my PC in the process. Do you want me running two accounts or none? You need to be realistic with yourselves. We all know many many players box, yet you come out with more BS about how you spec to one client. Get back in touch with your player base please.

The CSM role was weak at best and I question the purpose for the entire thing: shallow, shallow results.

Two weeks ago I had more from the game than I have now. The same goes for a few months ago vs now. Incarna adds nothing the core player really wants. I'm sure lots of fanbois will buy your swamp water but my patience grows thin.



If your graphics card is that crappy, turn off CQ... ugh Nobody is forcing you to play the game with CQ turned on. And your graphics card has insufficient cooling, you may want to get a better cooling unit for it. Must be one of them nvidia grills. Rolling Eyes

Herping yourDerp
Posted - 2011.07.06 15:37:00 - [127]
 

i think we all want incarna, we just don't want to have to use it, it should be a side attraction, like ship spinning or just exploring the universe... no real point, just something to do, maybe have small proffessions in incarna like owning a shop or bar. but nothing important to the core gameplay.

Ana Vyr
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.06 15:44:00 - [128]
 

Edited by: Ana Vyr on 06/07/2011 15:46:45
I must admit that I'm in love with what Incarna COULD be. If it gets rolled out with player owned shops, bars, fleet meeting rooms and so on like they originally said, it would be a fantastic addition to the game.

On top of that, if they could figure out how to roll out the true nature of eve in Incarna, we could end up with hand to hand combat, poker, back room drug deals, assasinations, detention rooms...they could do a great deal with it.

jackaloped
Posted - 2011.07.06 15:45:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
I love Incarna, I like it so much, that I want to see much more of it.

Different CQ, War rooms, public areas for players to meet and trade illegal boosters... I could add a lot of details and much more to this list. Incarna, as it is now is just a platform, the very basic feature that a lot of possible future content depend on.Cool


I'm glad you "love" incarna. I find it pretty worthless but I know others think like you. What do you like best about the current incarna that you say you love?

You are really excited to see your character walking in a different rooms? I don't understand this myself.

Why don't you trade your illegal boosters on the market like everyone else? Are you excited to see some sort of animation when you trade them in incarna?

I really don't get it.

jackaloped
Posted - 2011.07.06 15:48:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Isabelle Evotori
Yes we DO want incarna. what we don't want is whining little pricks like you


Originally by: Rico Minali
YOU do not want incarna. I do, so do a great many people.


What do you guys mean you "want" incarna. You have incarna it was released about a month ago.

I hope your happy.


watchYourBehind
Posted - 2011.07.06 15:48:00 - [131]
 

Gib mir das Zelle Drehen, bitte :(

Wolfric Draksmile
Posted - 2011.07.06 15:50:00 - [132]
 

I like Incarna.
I think it should be the first step of a new way to play Eve.
I think Dust514 and Eve should be the same game where your character could fight in a ship or on the planet.

Madbuster73
Posted - 2011.07.06 15:52:00 - [133]
 

Edited by: Madbuster73 on 06/07/2011 15:52:03
Walking in stations doesnt add anything to the game.
after a few minutes you have seen it all and gets boring as hell.
go play SIMS if you like to walk around mindless.
this game is about Spaceships and Wars and Markets.
Walking around is just stupid.

Herping yourDerp
Posted - 2011.07.06 15:56:00 - [134]
 

like i said, incarna is cool if optional. but it isnt, current incarna is ok for 10 mins, what it could be will be ok as well, it has more potential then anything i have seen in a long time, but it all hinges on optionality... old station hanger, exit pod button = win.

Claymore Rhade
Posted - 2011.07.06 16:31:00 - [135]
 

Originally by: Zeet A'Dron
I am feeling like the main message is lost. Clearly Incarna is an expansion that offers very little to the devout Eve player. The last 6 months have been nothing but nerfs and subtractions. The JB nerfs, the skill changes, agents, other stuff i'm forgetting. Take a look at the indy indicies throughout null sec. There are some big problems snowballing while you siphen off all the cash from Eve.

STop trying to invent ways to overheat my PC in the process. Do you want me running two accounts or none? You need to be realistic with yourselves. We all know many many players box, yet you come out with more BS about how you spec to one client. Get back in touch with your player base please.

The CSM role was weak at best and I question the purpose for the entire thing: shallow, shallow results.

Two weeks ago I had more from the game than I have now. The same goes for a few months ago vs now. Incarna adds nothing the core player really wants. I'm sure lots of fanbois will buy your swamp water but my patience grows thin.



So let me get this straight.

You dont want the backend coding that is gunna let ccp properly update our UI.
You dont want wat is going to set up walking in station so that we may play poker adn other games and poke each other in the eyes?
You dont want to be able to interact with dust pilots who like it or not will affect us.

Ramma Lamma DingDong
Posted - 2011.07.06 16:36:00 - [136]
 

OP has a turd in his pocket.

jackaloped
Posted - 2011.07.06 16:39:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: Herping yourDerp
like i said, incarna is cool if optional. but it isnt, current incarna is ok for 10 mins, what it could be will be ok as well, it has more potential then anything i have seen in a long time, ...


Its not going to replace dust as a first person shooter so please describe where you see this going?
I see more of the same boring stuff we have now.

More room backdrops to walk in. More clothes to buy. Transactions that could take place over the market just as easilly. Dialogues that could take place just as easilly without incarna.


Borun Tal
Minmatar
Space Pods Inc
Posted - 2011.07.06 16:40:00 - [138]
 

Edited by: Borun Tal on 06/07/2011 16:40:27
Originally by: Zeet A'Dron
I am feeling like the main message is lost. Clearly Incarna is an expansion that offers very little to the devout Eve player. The last 6 months have been nothing but nerfs and subtractions. The JB nerfs, the skill changes, agents, other stuff i'm forgetting. Take a look at the indy indicies throughout null sec. There are some big problems snowballing while you siphen off all the cash from Eve.

STop trying to invent ways to overheat my PC in the process. Do you want me running two accounts or none? You need to be realistic with yourselves. We all know many many players box, yet you come out with more BS about how you spec to one client. Get back in touch with your player base please.

The CSM role was weak at best and I question the purpose for the entire thing: shallow, shallow results.

Two weeks ago I had more from the game than I have now. The same goes for a few months ago vs now. Incarna adds nothing the core player really wants. I'm sure lots of fanbois will buy your swamp water but my patience grows thin.



tl;dr

"We"?? You speak for all of the subscribed players, or do you claim to speak for the failquitters who failed to quit? You certainly don't speak for me.

Kallynda Nai
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.06 17:00:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: jackaloped
Originally by: Isabelle Evotori
Yes we DO want incarna. what we don't want is whining little pricks like you


Originally by: Rico Minali
YOU do not want incarna. I do, so do a great many people.


What do you guys mean you "want" incarna. You have incarna it was released about a month ago.

I hope your happy.




This isn't Incarna. This is a horribly implemented, poorly optimized, dated abortion of an attempt at what CCP promised with WIS. I am aware CCP has recently said that they're working on a number of performance issues, but for the love of christ, how this even made it out the door is beyond me.

Scrapyard Attendant
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.07.06 17:04:00 - [140]
 

What happened to everybody whinging about not having it and demanding CCP make it for about 3 years?

jackaloped
Posted - 2011.07.06 17:06:00 - [141]
 

Edited by: jackaloped on 06/07/2011 17:07:41
Originally by: Kallynda Nai
Originally by: jackaloped
Originally by: Isabelle Evotori
Yes we DO want incarna. what we don't want is whining little pricks like you


Originally by: Rico Minali
YOU do not want incarna. I do, so do a great many people.


What do you guys mean you "want" incarna. You have incarna it was released about a month ago.

I hope your happy.




This isn't Incarna. This is a horribly implemented, poorly optimized, dated abortion of an attempt at what CCP promised with WIS. I am aware CCP has recently said that they're working on a number of performance issues, but for the love of christ, how this even made it out the door is beyond me.


What do you mean its not incarna? Are you walking in a station? Are you able to try on new clothes for your character? Does it not say "incarna" in big letters.

Guys this is incarna! Yes it sucks but the whole idea of a game where you strut around wearing virtual clothes sucks.

What exactly are wating for? More room back drops to *walk* in? More virtual clothes to buy?

Ezra Vouland
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.07.06 17:08:00 - [142]
 

What little time I do spend in a station, it is anice little change form the usual over the past 8 years.

Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.06 17:10:00 - [143]
 

Yes, you do need to spell it out, let me spell it for you:

U-N-S-U-B-S-C-R-I-B-E

There.

That's all CCP pays attention to (they've told us that, repeatedly.) And that's the ONLY way to get Incarna rolled back. Anything else is just delicious golden goose tears.

Sathynos
Caldari
BSX Industries
Inver Brass
Posted - 2011.07.06 17:23:00 - [144]
 

I DO want Incarna. But not the crappy little empty room with a sofa. I want player-run economy to grow with ground-based products and services, I want full integration, based on eve principles of maximum freedom and consequences instead of artificial obstacles.

I want player-made clothing to be sold on market for ISK instead of nex ****ing store. And I want to choose if I want to exit my ship and pod or not.

I DO want Incarna, but a better, proper one. The promised one. Current one is ****. CCP can do better, it is sad they choose not to.

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2011.07.06 17:38:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: Zeet A'Dron
I am feeling like the main message is lost. Clearly Incarna is an expansion that offers very little to the devout Eve player. The last 6 months have been nothing but nerfs and subtractions. The JB nerfs, the skill changes, agents, other stuff i'm forgetting. Take a look at the indy indicies throughout null sec. There are some big problems snowballing while you siphen off all the cash from Eve.

STop trying to invent ways to overheat my PC in the process. Do you want me running two accounts or none? You need to be realistic with yourselves. We all know many many players box, yet you come out with more BS about how you spec to one client. Get back in touch with your player base please.

The CSM role was weak at best and I question the purpose for the entire thing: shallow, shallow results.

Two weeks ago I had more from the game than I have now. The same goes for a few months ago vs now. Incarna adds nothing the core player really wants. I'm sure lots of fanbois will buy your swamp water but my patience grows thin.




You dont speak for me! At all! So please get lost! I want Incarna! And i want it badly! Mad


Vincent Athena
Posted - 2011.07.06 18:00:00 - [146]
 

You consent to Incarna by logging in.


Renosha Argaron
Caldari
IronPig
Sev3rance
Posted - 2011.07.06 18:02:00 - [147]
 

I want and have always wanted Incarna, it just needs time to grow and some tweaking, give it time ;)


Aerick Tau
Posted - 2011.07.06 18:03:00 - [148]
 

I have a four year old PC that was slightly better than middle-of-the-road when I originally built it. I can still run two copies of Incarna at the same time just fine. Maybe you shouldn't have bought an E-Machine.

jackaloped
Posted - 2011.07.06 18:13:00 - [149]
 

Edited by: jackaloped on 06/07/2011 18:14:06
Originally by: Renosha Argaron
I want and have always wanted Incarna, it just needs time to grow and some tweaking, give it time ;)




What do you mean want it? We have incarna. We can walk in stations now. Log in check it out!

We can walk in stations in different pants. We can walk in stations in different shirts. We can walk in stations in different boots. Whats the matter with how we walk in stations that needs to be tweaked?

What do you mean grow? You mean you want to watch us walk in different room back drops? You want to watch other avatars walk in different room back drops? How much time do should we give it?

Walking in stations is so awesome, my feet hurt just thinking about it. It reminds me of shopping with my wife.


Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.06 18:15:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: jackaloped
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I'm glad you "love" incarna. I find it pretty worthless but I know others think like you. What do you like best about the current incarna that you say you love?

You are really excited to see your character walking in a different rooms? I don't understand this myself.

Why don't you trade your illegal boosters on the market like everyone else? Are you excited to see some sort of animation when you trade them in incarna?

I really don't get it.


It improved the looks of my main character (I consider the new character editor a part of Incarna), most of all I love the potential it has. Have you read the devblogs and player suggestions on the past years?


Smuggling will be tied into Incarna, players will have to meet face to face if they want to trade illegal goods, the spaceship part will also benefit from this when players keep a lookout for smugglers, while other people smuggle the stuff. Of course you might say this could also be done with a station interface, yet Incarna improves the immersion factor when you have to personally meet someone to trade your illegal boosters with. Very Happy

I also knew from the very beginning that the first version of Incarna would just be a platform to build everything else on and no doubt, much more is coming.Cool


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