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Sasha Whorlita
Posted - 2011.07.02 13:48:00 - [1]
 

I suppose to tide the trolls, until CCP and CSM post the official responses he gave a bit of `a review of the trip and to give that yes/no answer....

"By this point my liver is beginning to adjust to the constant barrage of coffee, alcohol, and no sleep. I have no real hangover going into Friday. Friday morning we discuss microtransaction policy/future plans - the takeaway is, ofc, no gold ammo, nothing really new from the May summit, just a whole pile of terrible messaging mostly as a consequence of the NeX ****ups + the Fearless leaks.

No one in CCP gives a **** about Fearless, it's toilet reading. Sorry. It looks controversial as hell to players but it's ****. This is where a bunch of you are going to cry and clutch your favorite conspiracy theories, but you don't know what you're talking about. The significance of Greed is Good, ofc, is the leak, the botched handling of the messaging afterwards, the Angryblog, etc. But the newsletter itself is just company garbage, the same crap most companies have. "

http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?2614-Mittani-s-CSM-Twitter-Updates&p=137331&viewfull=1#post137331

Snake Scofield
Posted - 2011.07.02 13:52:00 - [2]
 

So basically much ado about nothing.

CCP needs courses in dealing with whiny forumites.

Sasha Whorlita
Posted - 2011.07.02 13:55:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Snake Scofield
So basically much ado about nothing.

CCP needs courses in dealing with whiny forumites.


ya cant wait to see the official CSM/CCP responses, but i think what it comes down to it is EN24, putting gas on the nightmare that was expensive goods in the NeX balooning the problem into something it wasn't and the fact ccp decided not to add cheap things to the NeX at the same time really made it a perfect storm of ****.

Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.02 13:56:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Brainless Bimbo on 02/07/2011 13:56:36
Originally by: Sasha Whorlita
I suppose to tide the trolls, until CCP and CSM post the official responses he gave a bit of `a review of the trip and to give that yes/no answer....

"By this point my liver is beginning to adjust to the constant barrage of coffee, alcohol, and no sleep. I have no real hangover going into Friday. Friday morning we discuss microtransaction policy/future plans - the takeaway is, ofc, no gold ammo, nothing really new from the May summit, just a whole pile of terrible messaging mostly as a consequence of the NeX ****ups + the Fearless leaks.

No one in CCP gives a **** about Fearless, it's toilet reading. Sorry. It looks controversial as hell to players but it's ****. This is where a bunch of you are going to cry and clutch your favorite conspiracy theories, but you don't know what you're talking about. The significance of Greed is Good, ofc, is the leak, the botched handling of the messaging afterwards, the Angryblog, etc. But the newsletter itself is just company garbage, the same crap most companies have. "

http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?2614-Mittani-s-CSM-Twitter-Updates&p=137331&viewfull=1#post137331



That crap is there for a reason

edit: The answer is in Hilmars email that was leaked




Sasha Whorlita
Posted - 2011.07.02 13:58:00 - [5]
 

dude its crap, because its just **** that goes back and forth to debate topics ... please don't troll the subject

RougeOperator
Posted - 2011.07.02 13:59:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: RougeOperator on 02/07/2011 14:01:58
Edited by: RougeOperator on 02/07/2011 14:00:38
Originally by: Sasha Whorlita
I suppose to tide the trolls, until CCP and CSM post the official responses he gave a bit of `a review of the trip and to give that yes/no answer....

"By this point my liver is beginning to adjust to the constant barrage of coffee, alcohol, and no sleep. I have no real hangover going into Friday. Friday morning we discuss microtransaction policy/future plans - the takeaway is, ofc, no gold ammo, nothing really new from the May summit, just a whole pile of terrible messaging mostly as a consequence of the NeX ****ups + the Fearless leaks.

No one in CCP gives a **** about Fearless, it's toilet reading. Sorry. It looks controversial as hell to players but it's ****. This is where a bunch of you are going to cry and clutch your favorite conspiracy theories, but you don't know what you're talking about. The significance of Greed is Good, ofc, is the leak, the botched handling of the messaging afterwards, the Angryblog, etc. But the newsletter itself is just company garbage, the same crap most companies have. "

http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?2614-Mittani-s-CSM-Twitter-Updates&p=137331&viewfull=1#post137331


He really expects us to believe this load of crap? They had a week to get their story straight before they talked to him as well.

The hilmar email confirms that they dont think the Newsletter is toiletpaper. they had a week to decide to tell everyone no one takes it seriously. Thats baloney to anyone that ever worked in a corporate environment.

CCP is a bunch of liars. And they bought off the CSM to sell their snake oil.

Serene Repose
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:01:00 - [7]
 

Not to contradict the OP...of course not, but I read interviews of actual, current employees who said that "toilet reading" (as you put it) is actually a standard management tool - referred to by the professionals who produce them as "internal information." According to those interviewed, that publication is to inform the employees of the direction the company intends to take to "get all the boats pointed in the same direction." This sounds more accurate, having been in the profession which produces this sort of internal information for quite a considerable amount of time. I'd be surprised if they didn't have one.

Kinda makes you go "hmmmm," hmmm?

Moon Shadowfall
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:01:00 - [8]
 

"Much ado about nothing"

and

"CCP didn't communicate well"

It's about as expected.

I hope we can get back to "playing" the game instead of whining about it soon...

Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:01:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Sasha Whorlita
dude its crap, because its just **** that goes back and forth to debate topics ... please don't troll the subject


offering an opposing viewpoint isn't necessarily a troll, and while I agree he could've expounded a bit more, he definitely opposes your viewpoint ;)

Gloria Stitz
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:02:00 - [10]
 

Doesn't mention making cq permanently optional

Mister Rifter
Caldari
Cerial Industries
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:03:00 - [11]
 

All I got out of this is.

CCP are full of ****.

CSM are dumb enough that they accept the lies.

Moon Shadowfall
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:03:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Mister Rifter
All I got out of this is.

CCP are full of ****.

CSM are dumb enough that they accept the lies.


The...it's time for you to quit. Seriously. If ANYTHING they say/do will not appease you, you aren't happy then its time to go.

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:04:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Le Skunk on 02/07/2011 14:04:50
Pseudo angry man bravely forces himself to iceland for free party for the good of the playerbase. examining the toilet walls of every pub in a selfless search for CCP releated graphiti, turns up to conference with 2 hours sleep, 5 times over the drink drive limit and wonders why rings are run round him by fully rested PR dudes?

Cant wait for the dev blog / collaborator blog.

SKUNK

Harcosi
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:04:00 - [14]
 

Yet again, no "gold ammo", he trolling?

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:05:00 - [15]
 

Mittens sucks. He's either a gullible sap or completely full of ****.

Yarrrrrhh
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:05:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Sasha Whorlita
No one in CCP gives a **** about Fearless, it's toilet reading. Sorry. It looks controversial as hell to players but it's ****. This is where a bunch of you are going to cry and clutch your favorite conspiracy theories


Funny how stating that every opinion that doubts the truth of this statement is a 'conspiracy theory' doesn't improve anything at all.

If 'Fearless' is actually **** then it makes CCP a **** company like all the other **** companies who print **** like that and expect their employees to read said ****.
It also means that their lead designer takes time to deliver a very refined (but horrible) message in a **** internal publication.

If Mittens is correct then CCP internal communication sucks. If Mittens is wrong then CCP as a company sucks.

Kuronaga
Black Snake Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:05:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Serene Repose
Not to contradict the OP...of course not, but I read interviews of actual, current employees who said that "toilet reading" (as you put it) is actually a standard management tool - referred to by the professionals who produce them as "internal information." According to those interviewed, that publication is to inform the employees of the direction the company intends to take to "get all the boats pointed in the same direction." This sounds more accurate, having been in the profession which produces this sort of internal information for quite a considerable amount of time. I'd be surprised if they didn't have one.

Kinda makes you go "hmmmm," hmmm?


Corporate brainwashing, only these things are so ridiculously transparent that managers in many companies actually make it mandatory for everyone to read this bull**** every time something new is released.

A complete joke of a practice if there ever was one. Internal newsletters are garbage, if your employees give a damn about the company they don't need one because they already know what's going on.

If they don't, you just make them hate you more for producing such drivel and forcing it upon them.

Lidia Prince
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:05:00 - [18]
 

I like all those "I don't trust CCP anymore... but I'll still play and **** on forums, that will show 'em!" people, lol.

On the subject: would like to see the full official version asap. If Mittani and CCP actually says there will be none P2W content, then no way I'm leaving EVE soon. Yay.

Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:05:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Le Skunk
Edited by: Le Skunk on 02/07/2011 14:04:50
Pseudo angry man bravely forces himself to iceland for free party for the good of the playerbase. examining the toilet walls of every pub in a selfless search for CCP releated graphiti, turns up to conference with 2 hours sleep, 5 times over the drink drive limit and wonders why rings are run round him by fully rested PR dudes?

Cant wait for the dev blog / collaborator blog.

SKUNK


will be worth a laugh or a cry or both.

Rrama Ratamnim
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:05:00 - [20]
 

i've had internal memos like this in my company and 9 times out of 10 they end up in the trash, theres few times that atleast my company follows through with anything thats going on, when its a debate somehow neither side tends to win lol

you all can say what you will the csm and ccp will say there views, and only time will tell...

if you quit eve over "but i think there lieing to me and there gonna do Y not X even though they keep saying its X" then dude just f*cking quit the games better without trolls like that

Indusy
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:06:00 - [21]
 

Quote:
This is where a bunch of you are going to cry and clutch your favorite conspiracy theories, but you don't know what you're talking about.


Quote:
Basically I think we won the war, but there's going to be people who will be unsatisfied no matter what.



Rrama Ratamnim
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:08:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Indusy
Quote:
This is where a bunch of you are going to cry and clutch your favorite conspiracy theories, but you don't know what you're talking about.


Quote:
Basically I think we won the war, but there's going to be people who will be unsatisfied no matter what.





LMFAO THIS ^^^^ conspiracys for da fail

Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:08:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Indusy
Quote:
This is where a bunch of you are going to cry and clutch your favorite conspiracy theories, but you don't know what you're talking about.


Quote:
Basically I think we won the war, but there's going to be people who will be unsatisfied no matter what.





all depends on what Mittani thought the war was about I guess.

Ghoest
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:11:00 - [24]
 

Mittani loves cool aid. Who knew?

Lina Thamaris
Caldari
Angry Elks
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:11:00 - [25]
 

It was clear from the start that it was all a ****storm about nothing.

Nothing CCP did or said suggested otherwise. All good, keep calm and keep pewing.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:12:00 - [26]
 

The dev alts are thick in here.

Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:15:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Le Skunk
Pseudo angry man bravely forces himself to iceland for free party for the good of the playerbase. examining the toilet walls of every pub in a selfless search for CCP releated graphiti, turns up to conference with 2 hours sleep, 5 times over the drink drive limit and wonders why rings are run round him by fully rested PR dudes?

Cant wait for the dev blog / collaborator blog.
SKUNK


This

Spookyjay
Caldari
Animosity.
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:15:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Spookyjay on 02/07/2011 14:16:08
in the words of a great man "I BELIEVE IT IS PEACE FOR OUR TIME" Rolling Eyes

Yarrrrrhh
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:16:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Lina Thamaris
It was clear from the start that it was all a ****storm about nothing.

Nothing CCP did or said suggested otherwise. All good, keep calm and keep pewing.
Two unsubbed accounts and two sold toons paying for the last previously subbed one says otherwise. I also gave about 6bn ISK away to make sure other people wouldn't be buying game time with real money in the next months to hurt CCPs cash flow.
Concurrency numbers show that the 'meh, makes no difference' people are wrong.

Kazini Jax
Gallente
Starlight Operations
Starlight Network
Posted - 2011.07.02 14:18:00 - [30]
 

Oh bull****. Why would you have ANY talk, theory or otherwise, about non-vanity microtransactions if the company policy that has been spewed out to us all this time is that there will never be non-vanity items. Hell,they said there would never be MT at ALL!!

Lies! Nothing but lies! Screw it, press charges for fraud


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