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raker
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:03:00 - [1]
 


Well, the talks are over and now we wait for a statement

Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
OK, we've thrashed something out, and are working on draft CCP and CSM statements. It will clear many things up. #csm6 #tweetfleet
40 minutes ago

Govinda Sertan
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:08:00 - [2]
 

My guess : "CCP is awesome, Incarna is gonna be a game's revolution, NeX shop will soon have 1000$ pants, life is great. Oh and btw, P2W everywhere in 2 month."

San Severina
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:09:00 - [3]
 

should only take a couple more days for the unclear, confusing & open to wide interpretation statement then.Wink

Mater Dolorosa
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:10:00 - [4]
 

Trebor_CSM is such a fan boy !

Atreus Venom
Gallente
New Eden Hitmen
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:11:00 - [5]
 

Sooo all of our questions will be answered? or do they STILL need more time to answer the MAIN question

xNEWxTROLLxHEREx
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:12:00 - [6]
 

Completely useless so far.

Llambda
Space Llama Industries
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:13:00 - [7]
 

Preeeetty sure CCP employed the baffle them with bull**** strategy, and it worked.

K'uata Sayus
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:16:00 - [8]
 

Unless they fire some of the top echelon who were the architects of this disaster, I won't be convinced anything will change for the better.

DeBingJos
Minmatar
Goat Holdings
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:18:00 - [9]
 

I suggest waiting with the rage until we know what was decided.

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:20:00 - [10]
 

There shouldn't have needed to be a "soon we'll have all answers". But I guess it's too hard to say "yes" or "no".

Anyways, since we are where we are, now, I'm expecting another knee-jerk reaction where CCP releases some ****ty thing and claiming "we came up with this, together with CSM". But in reality, they have just discussed the issue with CSM just to be able to claim it. CCP will do whatever they want anyways. Rightfully so tho, it is their game, no matter how much it really is the community that has built it up to what it is through the years.. (frankly speaking, we could've done without all expansions through the years, the core part of the game was there from day one and that's what makes it so good).

But now I'm going off topic. What I'm saying TL;;DR is, I can't really figure anything that CCP says will make up for their ******ed behaviour the last three years or so. And what CCP will do to win back any confidence in a) it's own leadership and b) CSM, that's.. well, if they succeed, I'll be impressed. What can they do, really?

Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:22:00 - [11]
 

I predict so much spin that if you grabbed that statement you would take off like a helicopter.

Rrama Ratamnim
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:39:00 - [12]
 

seriously, wtf has come of this forum, you little children need to f*cking quit and go play WOW, acting as if the csm has failed or something because they havent released a statement yet, atleast wait till a frigging statement is out to start *****ing

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:42:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Rrama Ratamnim
seriously, wtf has come of this forum, you little children need to f*cking quit and go play WOW, acting as if the csm has failed or something because they havent released a statement yet, atleast wait till a frigging statement is out to start *****ing


u mad bro?

shilpi
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:45:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Discrodia
I predict so much spin that if you grabbed that statement you would take off like a helicopter.

That's really funny, i m gonna spread it lol

Snake Scofield
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:45:00 - [15]
 

I predict rage.

CSM's could come home with a dog that poops rainbows and the mob would still have a spasm.

Johannes Alexodia
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:46:00 - [16]
 

Waiting to see if the CSM needs a recall election. I'm sure the player base would welcome them with the business end of a hybrid if they sold us down the river. Recall elections involving gore spewing shot up pods make me giddy.

Alucard Nosforatu
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:46:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: K'uata Sayus
Unless they fire some of the top echelon who were the architects of this disaster, I won't be convinced anything will change for the better.


Ok so hurry up and leave so i can have your stuff

Xenomorphea
Gallente
Black Rise Angels
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:47:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: raker

Well, the talks are over and now we wait for a statement

Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
OK, we've thrashed something out, and are working on draft CCP and CSM statements. It will clear many things up. #csm6 #tweetfleet
40 minutes ago


= some things (possibly the relvant ones) will NOT be cleared up.
Honestly, is it necessary to "work on a statement" to answer a simple question with "yes" or "no"?

Guys, I believe we are screwed ...

Dirk Smacker
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:49:00 - [19]
 

I predict somebody will oppose whatever happens on the internet.

Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:53:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Snake Scofield
I predict rage.

CSM's could come home with a dog that poops rainbows and the mob would still have a spasm.


I hate dogs!





and rainbows!

San Severina
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:54:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Xenomorphea
Originally by: raker

Well, the talks are over and now we wait for a statement

Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
OK, we've thrashed something out, and are working on draft CCP and CSM statements. It will clear many things up. #csm6 #tweetfleet
40 minutes ago


= some things (possibly the relvant ones) will NOT be cleared up.
Honestly, is it necessary to "work on a statement" to answer a simple question with "yes" or "no"?

Guys, I believe we are screwed ...


lol - you just working that out now?Cool

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:56:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Snake Scofield
I predict rage.

CSM's could come home with a dog that poops rainbows and the mob would still have a spasm.


After what CCP have done to this game the last couple of years, yeah, pretty much. We'd need a cute puppie that poops rainbows and ****es beer.

Alpine 69
Rubbish Superheroes
Posted - 2011.07.01 12:58:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Snake Scofield
I predict rage.

CSM's could come home with a dog that poops rainbows and the mob would still have a spasm.


After what CCP have done to this game the last couple of years, yeah, pretty much. We'd need a cute puppie that poops rainbows and ****es beer.


Would you really drink beer that someone ****ed out?

Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.07.01 13:00:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Snake Scofield
I predict rage.

CSM's could come home with a dog that poops rainbows and the mob would still have a spasm.


After what CCP have done to this game the last couple of years, yeah, pretty much. We'd need a cute puppie that poops rainbows and ****es beer.


While I can agree with the first part of your statement I can in no way, shape or form endorse the consumption of a bladder brewed beverage.....

xNEWxTROLLxHEREx
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2011.07.01 13:01:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Alpine 69
Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Snake Scofield
I predict rage.

CSM's could come home with a dog that poops rainbows and the mob would still have a spasm.


After what CCP have done to this game the last couple of years, yeah, pretty much. We'd need a cute puppie that poops rainbows and ****es beer.


Would you really drink beer that someone ****ed out?


I'd buy that for an Aurum. Razz

Aganola
Amarr
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys
HUN Reloaded
Posted - 2011.07.01 13:03:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Govinda Sertan
My guess : "CCP is awesome, Incarna is gonna be a game's revolution, NeX shop will soon have 1000$ pants, life is great. Oh and btw, P2W everywhere in 2 month."
word

Kirkland Langue
Posted - 2011.07.01 13:04:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Rrama Ratamnim
seriously, wtf has come of this forum, you little children need to f*cking quit and go play WOW, acting as if the csm has failed or something because they havent released a statement yet, atleast wait till a frigging statement is out to start *****ing


They've issued LOTS of statements - and all of the Statements have boiled down to this:
"CCP messed up and needs to do a better job communicating with the Players"

If that's the stance our wondrous CSM has going into the talks - what are the odds that they are actually going to come out with a view more approximating reality?

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.01 13:05:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Misanth
There shouldn't have needed to be a "soon we'll have all answers". But I guess it's too hard to say "yes" or "no".

Anyways, since we are where we are, now, I'm expecting another knee-jerk reaction where CCP releases some ****ty thing and claiming "we came up with this, together with CSM". But in reality, they have just discussed the issue with CSM just to be able to claim it. CCP will do whatever they want anyways. Rightfully so tho, it is their game, no matter how much it really is the community that has built it up to what it is through the years.. (frankly speaking, we could've done without all expansions through the years, the core part of the game was there from day one and that's what makes it so good).

But now I'm going off topic. What I'm saying TL;;DR is, I can't really figure anything that CCP says will make up for their ******ed behaviour the last three years or so. And what CCP will do to win back any confidence in a) it's own leadership and b) CSM, that's.. well, if they succeed, I'll be impressed. What can they do, really?


I wish I had been around in the beginning so I could truly understand the rage, but I have been around long enough to see where some people are coming from. It can always be painful to see one's hobby dismantled from within, but that is how life works. As this continues to unfold I become ever closer to not renewing my sub. With a child on the way I can more then justify this move.

If I make the move to stop training, I will leave with the thoughts of returning and seeing what has come of the game sometime in the future.


Slade

Xenomorphea
Gallente
Black Rise Angels
Posted - 2011.07.01 13:05:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: San Severina
Originally by: Xenomorphea
Originally by: raker

Well, the talks are over and now we wait for a statement

Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
OK, we've thrashed something out, and are working on draft CCP and CSM statements. It will clear many things up. #csm6 #tweetfleet
40 minutes ago


= some things (possibly the relvant ones) will NOT be cleared up.
Honestly, is it necessary to "work on a statement" to answer a simple question with "yes" or "no"?

Guys, I believe we are screwed ...


lol - you just working that out now?Cool


No, but I was still clinging to a tiny thread of hope ...

-Xeno

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.07.01 13:06:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Alpine 69
Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Snake Scofield
I predict rage.

CSM's could come home with a dog that poops rainbows and the mob would still have a spasm.


After what CCP have done to this game the last couple of years, yeah, pretty much. We'd need a cute puppie that poops rainbows and ****es beer.


Would you really drink beer that someone ****ed out?


From a cute puppy, sure. I love beer, and prices for them at my local bars have passed the $5+ mark years ago. Alot better to drink the ****y light lagers at home.. if a puppy delivered some quality, I'd hook up a hose right away.


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