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Chutney Hustler
Posted - 2011.07.01 07:52:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Chutney Hustler on 01/07/2011 07:55:54
Has anyone got a decent scimi fit for roaming Nano gangs?

From reading about I gather the Basi is largely considered the better option but I've had this Scimi since '07 and feel like it needs some loving.

This is what I've put together so far:

[Scimitar, PVP???]

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
ECCM - Ladar II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II

Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hammerhead II x4
Warrior II x1

ChromeStriker
Posted - 2011.07.01 07:59:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: ChromeStriker on 01/07/2011 08:32:06
Edited by: ChromeStriker on 01/07/2011 08:20:07
[Scimitar, logi]
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
ECCM - Ladar II

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Light Armor Maintenance Bot II x4
Hornet EC-300 x5

cap stable with logi 5

you can swap the eccm if you think its safe and if you swap it for a cap recharger II you free up a low slot

And if you really want a mwd...

[Scimitar, logi MWD]
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Hornet EC-300 x5
Light Armor Maintenance Bot II x4

Cap Stable with logi 5 and mwd off (and of course you have cap charges)

ThrashPower
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.07.01 09:25:00 - [3]
 

[Scimitar, My scimi]
Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Civilian Light Electron Blaster, Civilian Blaster Charge

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Logi V
I've used this setup lots, not far from your setup either. Cap stability is not a necessity, and the reps are capstable when you are not mwding (which you will be pulsing at most anyway). Tanks 2k if it gets repped by a similar scimi when you have tengu in gang. A friend in my corp replaces the damage control with a nano though, but I am gonna laugh at him the time he finds himself volleyed to death by too many arty ships.
I think its fast enough without the nano but I fly with snakes (4,4k m/s overloaded)


Aamrr
Posted - 2011.07.01 13:04:00 - [4]
 

I see a lot of these MWD fits with a free utility high. Naturally, a lot of them fit a gun for hopping onto the tail of killmails, but if you're not interested in that, well...how about a cloak?

Hide your numbers, get them to aggress, then start doing the repping thing. Is the scanres penalty too crippling, or could this work?


[Scimitar, PvpMwd]

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Improved Cloaking Device II
Large Shield Transporter II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I
Large Shield Extender II

Power Diagnostic System II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.07.01 13:19:00 - [5]
 

cloaks can be handy but it eats up cpu and screw your scan resolution...

Aamrr
Posted - 2011.07.01 13:42:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Pinky Denmark
cloaks can be handy but it eats up cpu and screw your scan resolution...


Yeah, the thing about that is that the Scimitar has a crapload of both. I have NEVER seen a scimitar fit EVER that was constrained by CPU. It's always powergrid or capacitor.

As far as scan resolution goes, it's the difference between locking a cruiser in 4.3s vs. 2.6s -- a small enough difference that I'd be more concerned about recalibration time.

ChromeStriker
Posted - 2011.07.01 14:10:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: ChromeStriker on 01/07/2011 14:12:34
A cloak is a situational tool on logistics, if your roaming then thereís no point as you cant warp cloaked and tbh those couple of seconds lost in targeting can mean the difference between saving a fleet mate and letting him die.

A wmd isnít strictly necessary, your transfer range should be enough and an afterburner is a better option, *unless* your going to be crashing bubbles and/or in truly big fleets.

And Lastly if you must kill board hor then donít do it to the loss of a repper Mad assign some drones to your fleet mates (a tackler will love you) and then you can concentrate on your real job of keeping people alive.

Edit: Spellinging and making it look pretty

Mfume Apocal
Minmatar
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.07.01 14:21:00 - [8]
 



Originally by: Aamrr
As far as scan resolution goes, it's the difference between locking a cruiser in 4.3s vs. 2.6s -- a small enough difference that I'd be more concerned about recalibration time.


Yeah, recalibration time and scanres penalties.


Tella Stratius
Posted - 2011.07.01 15:59:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Tella Stratius on 01/07/2011 16:00:24
For the space jews out there:

[Scimitar, Scimitar]
Damage Control II
Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System
Power Diagnostic System II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I

Large Shield Transporter II
Large Shield Transporter II
Large Shield Transporter II
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x4
Light Shield Maintenance Bot II x1

Notes: With perfect skills, cap stable at 48%. You can use a regular PDS instead of the Dark Blood if you have a +power grid implant. You can also replace the drone link augmentor with a cloak or whatever else you like.

El Liptonez
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2011.07.03 15:44:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: ThrashPower
[Scimitar, My scimi]
Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Civilian Light Electron Blaster, Civilian Blaster Charge

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Logi V
I've used this setup lots, not far from your setup either. Cap stability is not a necessity, and the reps are capstable when you are not mwding (which you will be pulsing at most anyway). Tanks 2k if it gets repped by a similar scimi when you have tengu in gang. A friend in my corp replaces the damage control with a nano though, but I am gonna laugh at him the time he finds himself volleyed to death by too many arty ships.
I think its fast enough without the nano but I fly with snakes (4,4k m/s overloaded)




Only good fit in thread so far.

Afterburner Scimitar makes bunny cry.

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2011.07.03 16:27:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Aamrr

As far as scan resolution goes, it's the difference between locking a cruiser in 4.3s vs. 2.6s -- a small enough difference that I'd be more concerned about recalibration time.


It does make a huge difference with quick primary switches, and can screw up the hide&bait game as well.

Not saying a cloak is always a terrible idea, but most of the time it is.

Ford Chicago
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.07.03 19:07:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: ChromeStriker
Edited by: ChromeStriker on 01/07/2011 14:12:34
A wmd isnít strictly necessary...



If the scimi could fit a DD, I'd fly nothing else. :-)

Kastsumi Kobayariel
Posted - 2011.07.04 05:56:00 - [13]
 

[Scimitar, 4xfer+link]
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Cap Recharger II
Shadow Serpentis Tracking Link

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

This is what I run. If ecm worries you replace the cap recharger for an eccm. Plug in a kxa2000 and pop some mindflood, then go to work. Tracking link is to boost a buddy in a mach or nano tempest, so if that's not your cup of tea then drop it for another invuln or the aforementioned eccm.

Kunos01
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys
Posted - 2011.07.04 06:32:00 - [14]
 

[Scimitar, lol]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Power Diagnostic System II
Reactor Control Unit II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Invulnerability Field II
Fleeting Warp Disruptor I

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe I

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Hornet EC-300 x5
Warrior II x4



Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.04 08:36:00 - [15]
 

Quote:
Only good fit in thread so far.

Afterburner Scimitar makes bunny cry.

First part: yes

Second part: no

An afterburner scimi is a viable option and often simply alot better than an MWD scimi. However in this case, since OP asked for scimi to support roaming nano gangs, MWD scimi is indeed what you want.

ChromeStriker
Posted - 2011.07.04 09:32:00 - [16]
 

The problem with a MWD scimi is the loss of a repper, you effectively reduce your ability by a 1/4 and thatís a BIG chunk.

With all the char iv had (that have flown logi) none of them have had a problem keeping up except TM when i had to burn after some nano HAC's going after a couple of sniping battleships, at a pos. and then i found it easier to go the opposite direction n warp to them lol.
The truth is most* fights are contained enough that it just takes some smart positioning to cover the field.

*the truly big fights use a bassi

TheHenni
Posted - 2011.07.05 06:16:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: TheHenni on 05/07/2011 06:16:57
Originally by: ChromeStriker
The problem with a MWD scimi is the loss of a repper, you effectively reduce your ability by a 1/4 and thatís a BIG chunk.

With all the char iv had (that have flown logi) none of them have had a problem keeping up except TM when i had to burn after some nano HAC's going after a couple of sniping battleships, at a pos. and then i found it easier to go the opposite direction n warp to them lol.
The truth is most* fights are contained enough that it just takes some smart positioning to cover the field.



The OP asked for a nano gang fit. If you ever bring an AB scimi to a nano gang I truely hope that your FC calls you primary. Furthermore, Hatsumi (who is a highly experienced logi pilot BTW) posted a four rep MWD Scimi and suggested a few tricks to improve cap too. Now please stop suggesting AB fit's in a thread about nano gangs.

ChromeStriker
Posted - 2011.07.05 08:17:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: TheHenni
Edited by: TheHenni on 05/07/2011 06:16:57
Originally by: ChromeStriker
The problem with a MWD scimi is the loss of a repper, you effectively reduce your ability by a 1/4 and thatís a BIG chunk.

With all the char iv had (that have flown logi) none of them have had a problem keeping up except TM when i had to burn after some nano HAC's going after a couple of sniping battleships, at a pos. and then i found it easier to go the opposite direction n warp to them lol.
The truth is most* fights are contained enough that it just takes some smart positioning to cover the field.




The OP asked for a nano gang fit. If you ever bring an AB scimi to a nano gang I truely hope that your FC calls you primary. Furthermore, Hatsumi (who is a highly experienced logi pilot BTW) posted a four rep MWD Scimi and suggested a few tricks to improve cap too. Now please stop suggesting AB fit's in a thread about nano gangs.


Sorry miss Sad I stand corrected, that is an impressive fit and if i was exclusivly a logi pilot it would be perfect, its now in my EFT Wink. I just didnt consider implants as i like to fly other things (dont want to lose the damage implant) maybe the next tyme i get podded or the next...

I still stand by AB's tho, the survivablility increase is notable and i havant been left behind yet... Exept by those SHAC's Neutral.
Your right Op go for kastsumi your FC's will love you more.


 

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