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ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:34:00 - [121]
 

Edited by: ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS on 30/06/2011 20:35:05
@CSM... Simple @ss question to ask... Why did u take away a functional part of the game (hangar) that no one ever complained about for some glitchy, non functional BS? Why the **** do I get a god damned door if I opt out of incarna?


If you don't get that answered ALL of you are failures!!!!

Karia Sur
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:34:00 - [122]
 

If anyone wants to buy items from a trade hub in the next few days, i suggest you do it tomorrow.

Hohepa Marstolt
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:36:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS
Edited by: ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS on 30/06/2011 20:35:05
@CSM... Simple @ss question to ask... Why did u take away a functional part of the game (hangar) that no one ever complained about for some glitchy, non functional BS? Why the **** do I get a god damned door if I opt out of incarna?


If you don't get that answered ALL of you are failures!!!!


this

Daxel Magmalloy
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:36:00 - [124]
 

Bringing back the hangar would make a huge difference to a lot of people. CQ is terrible but later on a disembark button would make walking in stations optional and therefore more appealing rather than CCP blatantly doing their best to force you to do it.

Why on Earth can the hangar not be returned. It was a good interface for ship stuff and THE DOOR is a bloody joke. Seriously, how is all this not obvious.

Elrica bloodbane
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:37:00 - [125]
 

YOU WANT TO HURT CCP ?
GO TO JITA AMARR AND ANY OTHER TRADE HUB.

BLOCK IT CLOSE THE STAR GATES.

WHEN TRAFFIC BUILDS UP OUT SIDE THE SYSTEM.

TAKE AS BS LOADED WITH SMARTIES AND BANG.

OVERWHELM THEM WITH PETITIONS.

IF YOUR GOING TO DO IT DO IT BIG

Don Aubaris
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:38:00 - [126]
 

So to sum up your day :

* pricing in the store is reasonable. We just don't yet understand it. (personally I don't care since I never intend to buy something there)
* we are stuck with the unhandy CQ and have lost the very efficient hangar view.

CCP : 2 PLayers : 0

* The main question about Non-vanity items is for tomorrow. Right. Looking at todays results I'm sure that's gonna go well.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:39:00 - [127]
 

Mittens is clueless. "I don't get the impression that Zulu is anyone's tool. I walked out of May with a very +++Zulu feel, still have that."

Reminds me of Dubya and Putin. "I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy….I was able to get a sense of his soul."

More from the clueless chairman Mao: "I think many of the controversies can be resolved with more clear comms from CCP."

Uh, no Dillweed. It was clear comms from CCP that thankfully brought all this to a head. What CCP is desperately trying to achieve and CSM is trying to enable is a return to less clear comms from CCP. If CCP ever had truly 'clear comms', they'd have a few dozen customers left, at best.

Centaur Centurion
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:39:00 - [128]
 

Honestly rather disapointing summary :-/

In fact they do their PR work and you pass it along to us and so far nothing new or interessting :-/

jackaloped
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:40:00 - [129]
 

TheMittani The Mittani
"Anyway, I don't think EVE is going to blow up but there needs to be some serious 'apology school' action from the company to the players."


IMO they can hold the BS apology.

There needs to be some serious devs assigned to the inspace part of eve. They need to stop the huge focus on incarna and the mt it brings.

All the expansions have been crap since apocrypha. That is the real problem.

Ordais
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:47:00 - [130]
 

Well, its clear as day why Mittani and Zulu like eachother, they both like 1000$ jeans.

Nah, common, put up A BIT MORE RESISTANCE, 1 day of sugar up your ass and you are all over the devs for kisses.

Grow a spine guys, the issue is not "the players don't understand"...we just DONT SHARE CCPs ideas on this and the future.

Henrica Gaufridus
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:49:00 - [131]
 

Originally by: Nullity
Why is it going to take an entire day to say "No, we'd be crazy to add non-vanity MTs."?


Probably that plus a good deal of "Okay, so how are we going to phrase the official CCP statement?" Judging by the last few CCP statements, it'll consist of CCP showing the CSM a statement, the CSM will say "Change this, change this, add this, change this, add this," with CCP saying "we'll take it into consideration" and then release the original.

Typhoon Warfreak
Caldari
Definitive Exploration and Excavations
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:50:00 - [132]
 

The more I read these post (by the same people), the more I see it as mindless mob mentality. Why? What more do you want CSM and CCP to do? The way the behaviour is on this forum, people (the minority as well), are demanding CCP bend to their will.

Look at this from a whole unsubscriber point of view. Let say that the total revenue lost from unsubs was 1mil. Their total revenue (outdated figures), from 2008 was 46mil. Let say that currently, CCP is making 40mil a year. See where their 1mil loss is coming in? Sure, it is a sting, but you are not making a big enough dent to be heard. If it was a 20mil loss, different story.

The protestors on this forum have an air of self-importance, as if EVE should bend to their will. Do this, that, this, that, then I'll resub. Really? Your $132 for the year isn't even enough to pay the wages of a staff member for a day. Why should you get special treatment?

And all these references to WW2 Germany towards CCP. Really? Is this the level of maturity we have reached? Where all we can do is insult people using terms that normally, in real life, would have us beaten on the floor.

I'm against pay to win. I support microstransaction in that they are vanity items only, and economy-involved for non-vanity (BPC, trade ins). I will not support ships appearing out of thin air. Personally, I thought EVE was a game with smart players. I guess I'm wrong to some extent.

The end message is, change is going to happen whether we like it or not, only question is, are you going to accept it and move on, or just keep denying, hands over heads, and live in the past.

Tuggboat
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:55:00 - [133]
 

If they really thought we played this out of greed they could have given us all a bllion isk and a million skill points in each account. WOuld have cost them less and by their own estimation, more effective. make that 1.4 so I can get a monacle.

Viking Sven
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:56:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Boaz Hedion Merkava
UPDATE 2
Hmm, mixed signals. TheMittani also was at the meeting. His tweet says (source):
Quote:
@MaxSingularity We did discuss ship spinning with CCP and what I heard pleased me. One of the bright spots. Can't say details. vOv



It's funny, reading through Mittani's tweets, he's up and down all day. I can't decide if he's happy with day 1 or angry about it.

I honestly think every positive post we see is a spoonful of bull****. I think we've earned the right to be skeptical of CCP and the CSM by now.

jimmybeech
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:56:00 - [135]
 

Typical ccp... they could have just added an option to go from hanger to CQ... they already have the hanger... they already have CQ... its just one more option?? and more then half of the protest would be instantly fixed! People who like it = happy, people who don't like it = happy.. problem solved.

Once it is optional just add some actual content to CQ so people have a reason to go there...then people will use it... problem solved! why is this so hard??

For people who have been playing for many years the station hanger is as much a part of their eve experience as star gates, it has always been there since the beginning and we are fond of it. We all remember the first time we spun our ibis in station and undocked for the first time, and the excitement of loading a new ship. players are sentimental and very fond of it...and it works!

Why get rid of something your players actually like? Its something that works just fine and isn't bugged or unbalanced as it is? It should be last on your list of things to fix right now. Where is the threadnourght saying "we hate the station its boring please make a new one"? We showed enthusiasm for incarna when it was being developed because you said it would be extra content and we think parts of it have future potential to expand on. CCP even showed a video of us leaving our ship from the hanger to go to the CQ which works fine for everyone... and actually makes RL sense and is kinda cool??

All i have now is a stupid door! thanks ccp

CSM please try harder on this issue, its not so hard and would go a long way to defusing this whole mess. Step 2: they just need to say they will ONLY ever sell vanity junk in the store which has no other in game value and wont effect the game mechanics, ship balance or market trade... 1 week late but incarna fixed. We can go back to playing the game we love and ccp can say "see, we do listen" and start fixing the real problems with the game without creating new ones..

Isabella Thresher
Fat Kitty Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:58:00 - [136]
 

Edited by: Isabella Thresher on 30/06/2011 20:58:19
would all those "can't-run-8-accounts-anymore" whiners kindly leave EVE now please and STFU thanks a lot.

(no, i'm not cool with insane hardware requirements, but on the other hand, it might release ingame resources to other players, finally. i consider no-more-singleplayer-miningfleets at good thing, for example)

Solstice Project
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:58:00 - [137]
 


Most people on this forum seem to eat most of their food before it's even cooked.
Maybe even marry a girl before they ****ed her at least once, first. ^^


They. Are. Not. Done. Yet.


Assumptions, Generalizations, Ego Trips ... stfu already.


(demanding kickban-voting for threads)

Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:58:00 - [138]
 

Forgive my cynicism, but I could just not resist making this comic:

CSM Meeting





Please don't hurt me


Elrica bloodbane
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:01:00 - [139]
 

If I was in the same corp/alliance as any of the csm.
I F*ckin biomass myself out of shame

LHA Tarawa
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:03:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: Solstice Project


They. Are. Not. Done. Yet.




Right, they are not done forcing microtransactions onto the players. I do not intend to stick around for it.

Jitaseller
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:04:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Isabella Thresher
Edited by: Isabella Thresher on 30/06/2011 20:58:19
would all those "can't-run-8-accounts-anymore" whiners kindly leave EVE now please and STFU thanks a lot.

(no, i'm not cool with insane hardware requirements, but on the other hand, it might release ingame resources to other players, finally. i consider no-more-singleplayer-miningfleets at good thing, for example)
People with multiple accounts make up a large portion of the player base, which helps them inflate the actual real people playing figures. Losing them is a larger hit then losing someone like yourself (unless you're one of the :derps: supporting this Nex garbage).

Caldari Citizen20110707
The Official Hyperdallas Fanclub
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:06:00 - [142]
 

hmm does this all means spaceshipz finaly are getting fixed?

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:06:00 - [143]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 30/06/2011 21:06:29


Why the F are everybody ranting about ship spinning? There are far more important things to get fixed jezz.

My god, lets waste a part of a discussion day on ship spinning.

If you want to spin your ship, UNDOCK. The ship spins automatically in the CQ dock why would I want to spend time spinning it?

They should fix CQ / WiS first before ship spinning, the entire UI is laggy and cloggy not to mention a bbq.


Alexzia Sevic
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:06:00 - [144]
 

Haters gonna Hate.

Best to ignore anyone that doesn't have the IQ to understand that communication is the first step in negotiation, and it is good that CCP is at least talking to the playerbase. People are simply deluding themselves if they think the CSM will have executive level management about game. Stop being irrational and expecting that.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:07:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: Entity
Forgive my cynicism, but I could just not resist making this comic:

CSM Meeting


Bingo.

Cadela Fria
Amarr
x13
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:08:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Mittens is clueless. "I don't get the impression that Zulu is anyone's tool. I walked out of May with a very +++Zulu feel, still have that."

Reminds me of Dubya and Putin. "I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy….I was able to get a sense of his soul."

More from the clueless chairman Mao: "I think many of the controversies can be resolved with more clear comms from CCP."

Uh, no Dillweed. It was clear comms from CCP that thankfully brought all this to a head. What CCP is desperately trying to achieve and CSM is trying to enable is a return to less clear comms from CCP. If CCP ever had truly 'clear comms', they'd have a few dozen customers left, at best.


Sir, I can't begin to convey HOW inappropriate I think it is that you are comparing CCP Zulu to Vladimir Putin.

Kiran
Minmatar
Knights of Azrael
Anti-Social Outcast
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:10:00 - [147]
 

So basically they buttered up the CSM to get ready to deliver us the "P2W will be the next major update to the NeX store. "

Time to sharpen the pitchforks again.

New Eden is going to burn and not only in game.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:11:00 - [148]
 



AYBABTU


Zleon Leigh
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:13:00 - [149]
 

Originally by: Boaz Hedion Merkava


UPDATE 2
Hmm, mixed signals. TheMittani also was at the meeting. His tweet says (source):
Quote:
@MaxSingularity We did discuss ship spinning with CCP and what I heard pleased me. One of the bright spots. Can't say details. vOv



It pleased him. Doesn't mean a dang thing since we don't know how he feels about it - pro-spin or no-spin. These tweets are BS (and I don't mean battleship)

RougeOperator
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:18:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: Zleon Leigh
Originally by: Boaz Hedion Merkava


UPDATE 2
Hmm, mixed signals. TheMittani also was at the meeting. His tweet says (source):
Quote:
@MaxSingularity We did discuss ship spinning with CCP and what I heard pleased me. One of the bright spots. Can't say details. vOv



It pleased him. Doesn't mean a dang thing since we don't know how he feels about it - pro-spin or no-spin. These tweets are BS (and I don't mean battleship)


Yes the whole thing is a load of hogwash. CSM is in CCPs hip pocket.


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