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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.30 14:53:00 - [181]
 

Twas the hour of meeting, and all through the thread,
not a creature was stirring, not even a dred.
The noobs were all hung, by their innards with care,
in hopes that GMs, would soon be there.

The pirates were nestled, all clustered by drones,
as they sat upon piles of dead foes' bones,
Some chick pod pilot flew by in her cap,
while I settled down for a no CQ nap.

When out of the station there rose such a clang,
I shouted out, "hey who's flyin this thang?"
Away to my ship, I lagged down the hall,
trying to get to my pod pilot ball.

I tried to undock, but my ship didn't work,
damn this siht is gonna drive me berserk!
so instead I jumped and got out of there,
fracking cq, it messed up my hair!

So we wait on the question, the yellow one there,
they can't answer, does it give them a scare?
We'll wait some more and give it a day,
and watch what they do and not what they say.

ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS
Posted - 2011.06.30 14:53:00 - [182]
 

Are we getting the hangar back or not? That's all I need to know!!!

Maisonian
Amarr
The Green Machine
Posted - 2011.06.30 14:56:00 - [183]
 

Jeez, let's try to keep this calm. Right now we know that the CSM are engaged in talks with CCP, that's ALL we know. NDAs are ten a penny these days, I wouldn't be surprised I'd the CSM have to sign some variant of this every time they meet. Hell, I had to sign one while working in a bar when a pharmaceutical company had it's Xmas party!

Yes, we want transparency and we want answers. But clearly defined ones. I (like many, I'm sure) are basing their continued future in Eve on what conclusions are reached so I think it's only fair to allow a clearly thought out and professional statement to be compiled. CCP have this one chance to fix things; they need to get it 100% right to retain the base of players that are still undecided on this issue. A lot of people are quick to forget that these are people too, ever tried to concentrate on a fair and balanced reply when people are screaming at you?

The latest blogg might be utter tripe, but it's proof that CCP are as human, fallible and daft as the rest of us. They have their chance to get it right; hopefully this meeting is less of a cop-out and more of a solution. Trust me when I say those that have quit are NOT being ignored by the accountants in Iceland. 1m+ of revenue from it's lost playerbase speaks volumes; they know that should they mess up again, they'll loose more.

Give them time, be chilled, enhance your calm :)

Anna Maziarczyk
Posted - 2011.06.30 14:56:00 - [184]
 

Originally by: ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS
Are we getting the hangar back or not? That's all I need to know!!!


agree.

Vanity - Non-Vanity is a no-brainer.

What about Spaceflight - Docked - CQ.


vasuul
Posted - 2011.06.30 14:57:00 - [185]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Twas the hour of meeting, and all through the thread,
not a creature was stirring, not even a dred.
The noobs were all hung, by their innards with care,
in hopes that GMs, would soon be there.

The pirates were nestled, all clustered by drones,
as they sat upon piles of dead foes' bones,
Some chick pod pilot flew by in her cap,
while I settled down for a no CQ nap.

When out of the station there rose such a clang,
I shouted out, "hey who's flyin this thang?"
Away to my ship, I lagged down the hall,
trying to get to my pod pilot ball.

I tried to undock, but my ship didn't work,
damn this siht is gonna drive me berserk!
so instead I jumped and got out of there,
fracking cq, it messed up my hair!

So we wait on the question, the yellow one there,
they can't answer, does it give them a scare?
We'll wait some more and give it a day,
and watch what they do and not what they say.


+1Razz

BtodaC
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.06.30 14:58:00 - [186]
 

Originally by: Kane Molou

Part of the problem with 'paitence' though is that people are at a point where Paitence isn't going to last.. we've been waiting over a WEEK for answers...
The big one is that instead they can 'spin' what ever they want...
the [sic] is NO Transparency between CCP and US, because we don't get to see ANY of these meetings only what they WANT to show us.


1) A WHOLE WEEK my god thatís such a long time! (sarcasm)
2) Spin doesnít work so well on the endless hardcore cynics like yourself and all the other angry impatient types.
3) If you play the game and learn how it works then you will have all the transparency you need. Either they make it better or worse.

Given that this new expansion leaves 99% of the game untouched (the 1% being that you cant spin ships in station any more) and adds an additional percent which is totally ignorable in game (NEX, AUR etc.) I cant help but laugh at your hyperbolic commentary.
Cheer up!

Cydori
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:00:00 - [187]
 

Originally by: vasuul
The CSM are there to look after our interests and be our voice to CCP.


Yeah, in theory. In practice I trust them about as much as I trust local politicians.

This is the "boiling frog" method of rolling out unpopular software changes. CCP is not going to budge one millimeter on their plans for MT or anything else. This meeting is simply to help them refine the message and roll out the changes in such a way that it avoids mass protests by the playerbase and the bad press associated with that.

Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:00:00 - [188]
 

Well from following the twitter thing, it looks like a lot of bla bla bla and we still havnt addresd the real isuue yet.

looks like they are trying to ease the minds of the csm so it will be harder for them to not accept what ever ccp tells them tomorrow.

CSM stand firm and demand answer on the big yellow question and if they in any way want you to try accept it and help scam the players into accepting it then just walkout pls, and save your reputation.


El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:01:00 - [189]
 

Originally by: Snake Scofield
Quote:
members of the press


CNN or Fox?


For this I'd expect something more like Eurogamer, Massively, PC Gamer, etc.


Psychlo
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:02:00 - [190]
 

The CSM's should just jump over the table and start beating on the CCP folks. Nothing communicates better. I say let the beatings continue until CCP fools have had the stupid beat out of them.

BtodaC
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:04:00 - [191]
 

Originally by: Boaz Hedion Merkava
Originally by: lilol' me
just dont think i can ever trust anything that CCP says ever, i feel physically sick even typing 'CCP'


That's a bit over the top, isn't it?


'A bit' is an understatement.Surprised

Juil
Gallente
Phoenix Industries Pty. Ltd.
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:04:00 - [192]
 

Originally by: BtodaC
Originally by: Kane Molou

Part of the problem with 'paitence' though is that people are at a point where Paitence isn't going to last.. we've been waiting over a WEEK for answers...
The big one is that instead they can 'spin' what ever they want...
the [sic] is NO Transparency between CCP and US, because we don't get to see ANY of these meetings only what they WANT to show us.


1) A WHOLE WEEK my god thatís such a long time! (sarcasm)
2) Spin doesnít work so well on the endless hardcore cynics like yourself and all the other angry impatient types.
3) If you play the game and learn how it works then you will have all the transparency you need. Either they make it better or worse.

Given that this new expansion leaves 99% of the game untouched (the 1% being that you cant spin ships in station any more) and adds an additional percent which is totally ignorable in game (NEX, AUR etc.) I cant help but laugh at your hyperbolic commentary.
Cheer up!


1) A whole week where CCP: - Abused players, ignored players, had leaks and then refused to talk to players as they left in droves.
2. No Spin doesn't work so well on hardcore cynics, we've been playing this game long enough to realise that CCP say one thing and do a completely diffrent thing. Do you need the list of half ass and half features in the game? Or the fact that with this one we have to PAY MORE to get it?
3. I've played the game for a long time now and CCP very very rarely does exactly what they 'say' they are going to do.. else faction warefare, space combat issue, etc etc etc would all have been fixed.. a long time ago and WIS / Ambillation would have been out 3 years ago.

pipvac
Sacred Templars
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:04:00 - [193]
 

What reputation?

This will either make or break the CSM once and for all as far as the community is concerned. They better tread damn carefully.

CCP's rep is already in the toilet. So what they say hardly matters. How the CSM conducts itself does to those who care.

I regret I am entirely skeptical about what the CSM has achieved/can achieve.

Dasola
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:04:00 - [194]
 

Originally by: Holy One
I like these calm little moments before the storm.


Time to start heating up battleships when i get home, just in case theyre needed to blockade jita again.

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:06:00 - [195]
 

Originally by: ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS
Are we getting the hangar back or not? That's all I need to know!!!
This.

Juil
Gallente
Phoenix Industries Pty. Ltd.
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:08:00 - [196]
 


resabeddebaser


@


@Trebor_CSM ARE YOU MOVING BEYOND VANITY ITEMS FOR AUR? C'mon man, don't play around...

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@Trebor_CSMRobert Woodhead


@resabed That topic is on the agenda for tomorrow. #csm6 #tweetfleet




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evenews24Eve News24 Online


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@Trebor_CSM #csm6 #tweetfleet denying any possibility for "AUR for NON-vanity items" it's not a priority then?



El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:08:00 - [197]
 

Originally by: Psychlo
The CSM's should just jump over the table and start beating on the CCP folks. Nothing communicates better. I say let the beatings continue until CCP fools have had the stupid beat out of them.


You've not seen the size of a couple of the devs I don't think as this would be a rather foolish plan if you had....

vasuul
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:09:00 - [198]
 

Edited by: vasuul on 30/06/2011 15:10:01
Not to sound too much like one of those peace Guru's with the shaved head

But we need positive vibes to affect positive change

some recent tweets
We plan to make a joint statement at the end of day 2 with specific details and points agreed to. #csm6 #tweetfleet
Already some things that I know people will respond positively to. #csm6 #tweetfleet

a little faith will go a long way

Towaoc
Caldari
Applied Technologies Inc
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:10:00 - [199]
 

Edited by: Towaoc on 30/06/2011 15:10:39

Do you guys really think that this meeting is about specific rants, minor details such as spinning one's ship in the station? I suspect and hope not. Rather, this meeting should be about the big picture: the game's culture, rebuilding the partnership between the players and the developers, philosophy, strategy and vision for moving forward.

Enuen Ravenseye
Malevolence.
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:11:00 - [200]
 

Originally by: Xythe Marstolt
Seleene_EVESeleene
#CSM6 is talking VERY bluntly with CCP Zulu atm about the roll out of the NeX and how the prices were / are perceived. #tweetfleet


Am I the only one frightened (though not surprised) by that tweet? How many people give a **** about how the prices were perceived? Shouldn't the CSM concentrate on being VERY blunt about what is going to be on sale rather then the price structure?

Psychlo
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:11:00 - [201]
 

Originally by: vasuul


a little faith will go a long way



So does a good ass whipping.

Juil
Gallente
Phoenix Industries Pty. Ltd.
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:13:00 - [202]
 

Trebor_CSMRobert Woodhead


@


@evenews24 forgive MY bluntness; I have tweeted multiple times we will discuss the non-vanity MT issue ALL DAY tomorrow. #csm6 #tweetfleet

off to sleep

Hustler Funk
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:14:00 - [203]
 

Originally by: Cydori
This meeting is simply to help them refine the message and roll out the changes in such a way that it avoids mass protests by the playerbase and the bad press associated with that.


Aren't they a bit too late then?


Falbala
Gallente
Ishtar's Destiny
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:15:00 - [204]
 

So far no answer on:

Will non-vanity items be sold on NEX?
Will the old hangar come back?

Vain Eldritch
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:15:00 - [205]
 

Originally by: vasuul
Edited by: vasuul on 30/06/2011 15:10:01
a little faith will go a long way



It can also go the wrong way.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:15:00 - [206]
 

Originally by: vasuul

Not to sound too much like one of those peace Guru's with the shaved head

But we need positive vibes to affect positive change



Don't bogart that postive vibe man, hit it and pass it.

killmc
Gallente
Navajo commandos
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:18:00 - [207]
 

Edited by: killmc on 30/06/2011 15:19:33
seems like csm6 been buy off with free game items like
Trebor_CSM
All the CSMs do have monocles, btw #csm6 #tweetfleet

Boaz Hedion Merkava
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:18:00 - [208]
 

All pessimism and no faith makes Eve a dull game.

uyoi
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:19:00 - [209]
 

Edited by: uyoi on 30/06/2011 15:18:52
How many days are these meetings expected to last?

Kira Summer
Posted - 2011.06.30 15:19:00 - [210]
 

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Having very interesting and very good discussions with the CSM so far #eveonline #tweetfleet

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