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Lirossa
Posted - 2011.06.30 22:09:00 - [61]
 

Edited by: Lirossa on 30/06/2011 22:10:14
One note on the new forum:

when I click a link thats posted in a thread (url tag) it always redirects me to the same forum thread again without opening the url.

After some research I found that you seam to be using some kind of google-api which is remote included. My privacy settings do not allow any javascripts to be loaded from google servers and therfor causing your JS calls to fail.

This is the remote-liked library that fails loading:
https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jqueryui/1.8.9/jquery-ui.min.js

Quote:

$("#ConfirmDialog").dialog is not a function
https://testforums.evegate.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=11946&find=unread
Line 18


Kerrisone
Posted - 2011.07.01 01:12:00 - [62]
 

Good decision and communication I unfortunately have to make note that such thinking was severely lacking of late. I also hope the feedback being given is taken to heart and efforts made to implement fixes/changes as happened after the 'new forums' shut down. Their arrival saw virtually no feedback or changes made from the first round of testing and only after returning from the exploit debacle were they addressed.


Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
Posted - 2011.07.01 04:38:00 - [63]
 

Import all the old forum content on the new one.

Don't want to hear your excuses, your webteam should be very, very grateful you didn't fire every single one of them for their mind blowing incompetence

Garekell
Posted - 2011.07.01 04:46:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Patient 2428190
Import all the old forum content on the new one.

Don't want to hear your excuses, your webteam should be very, very grateful you didn't fire every single one of them for their mind blowing incompetence


AMEN. They have an extra two months to make their beloved customers happy eh? No excuses now.

Atreus Venom
Gallente
New Eden Hitmen
Posted - 2011.07.01 05:43:00 - [65]
 

mm mmhmmm yes yes ahh ok nice... yeah sooooo

DO YOU PLAN ON SELLING NON-VANITY ITEMS IN NEX?


Falbala
Gallente
Ishtar's Destiny
Posted - 2011.07.01 05:44:00 - [66]
 

OMG there is a search feature!

Smoking Blunts
Posted - 2011.07.01 05:57:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Falbala
OMG there is a search feature!


shame we have to give up usibilty and function to get it. but oh well its the ccp way to ignor feedback

Ban Doga
Posted - 2011.07.01 14:49:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally, we had planned to close the test forums much sooner, and wanted to deploy the new forums over the final week of June, however, we feel that doing so at this time would be detrimental to the ongoing discussions regarding both CCP and the current state of EVE Online.


Very thoughtful!

Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
Holy Empire of The Unshaven
Posted - 2011.07.01 16:23:00 - [69]
 

First good PR move in a while; i.e. not closing the current forums until August. Now if CCP and Eve could only also do good work on their SUBSTANCE and not just their IMAGE....

Nice to know there are still a very few of the employees at CCP that are at least ATTEMPTING to earn the salaries we pay them.

Good on you Fallout.

Cheers.


Serpents smile
Posted - 2011.07.01 18:18:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Smoking Blunts
Originally by: Falbala
OMG there is a search feature!


shame we have to give up usibilty and function to get it. but oh well its the ccp way to ignor feedback


Yep it's like CQ. You gain walking you lose drag and drop, double click, immersion and what not.

CCP: boldly going one step forward and two steps back.


Lederstrumpf
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:13:00 - [71]
 

Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 01/07/2011 23:37:24

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Chribba
Can I suggest you keep the current forums coz they have their charm? Very Happy

/c


No :D


You deserve any customer loss there is. The new forum is unpolished crap which lacks usability.

There's plenty of good advice delivered to you for free.

You once again plan to deliver a pile of crap and shove it into customer face. Excellent!

All CCP employees should be forced to use it for communication for 4 weeks to get a ****ing clue!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GighJ9I7elk

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.07.02 00:01:00 - [72]
 

Any chances at color text I find it crucial tool in combating wall of text syndrom with my longer idea posts.

Habaticus
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.02 00:50:00 - [73]
 

I'm really going to enjoy the HIDE function. A few selective hides and the forums will be readable and informing again :)

ninjaholic
Gallente
House Aratus
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.07.02 01:42:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
(e.g. the delete thread button doesn't actually delete threads).


Why would you delete threads? It's better practice to lock them as examples of doing it wrong Rolling Eyes

John McCreedy
Caldari
Eve Defence Force
Posted - 2011.07.02 11:05:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout

When we do move over to the new forums, we'll be keeping this instance open for a few days, and then archiving the material so that no data is lost.


Is it not possible, and if so easier, to import this forum's database to the new forums?

Mr LaForge
Posted - 2011.07.02 11:46:00 - [76]
 

1. Font sizes on the new forum still too small. Especially the last poster listed on the forum index.
2. Forum width too narrow. needs to be expandable according to monitor resolution like this forum.\
All javascript code needs to be moved to the bottom of the code. I want to look at the forum, not wait to load. In fact I'm just going to disable javascript on evegate.
3. Too much padding.
4. Evegate still doesn't have a menu like the one on the left side here where players can access blogs, patch notes, etc etc.

Jimmy Duce
Chaotic Tranquility
Posted - 2011.07.02 12:01:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Hello all,

For the last couple of weeks, we have been conducting the second round of beta tests for our new forums <https://testforums.evegate.com/>. The feedback we have received has been tremendously helpful, and we are grateful to those of you who have taken the opportunity to help us with the beta test. We have decided to extend the test until July 8, 2011, at which time we will close the beta test forums.

Originally, we had planned to close the test forums much sooner, and wanted to deploy the new forums over the final week of June, however, we feel that doing so at this time would be detrimental to the ongoing discussions regarding both CCP and the current state of EVE Online. We’ve been listening to and following your concerns and criticisms closely, and do not want to risk disrupting the flow of discussion by opening new forums.

We plan on deploying the new forums in August. Until then...

Fly safely!

Team Occam’s Razor and the EVE Online Community Team




See CCP you can make some good decisions. Forcing us to move to the new forums at a time we didn't want to you'd have been bad for use as well. So maybe you could gives us back the ship spinning now?

Thoraemond
Minmatar
Far Ranger
Posted - 2011.07.02 15:18:00 - [78]
 

For many in-game features, there is something to be said for the argument that forum posters are a minority of EVE pilots, and their feedback or rage should not guide game development. The same argument does not apply to changes to the forum itself since, of course, forum posters are the user base for this aspect of the game.

Forum posters saying "the new forums are not good enough" or "the new forums are worse than the current forums" is something that CCP should take seriously, but does not appear to be.


Here are a couple of very basic, "Web Design 101"-type design problems, previously identified, that have somehow escape fixing so far:
  • The table of posts in a forum section has five columns that each have a single line of text per row (Topics, Author, Replies, Views, Likes) and one that has two lines of text per row (Last Post). This creates a significant waste of screen real estate in the first five columns. These rows should be one line each.

  • The size of the main font of the forum should be adjustable, independent of the page as a whole (i.e., it should be possible to choose different type sizes without enlarging the whole page using something like CTRL+"+" in a web browser). This is a basic sort of accessibility feature. At a minimum, if the forum will force a small typeface, it should at least be a more legible face, e.g., Tahoma instead of Arial.

Helena Russell Makanen
Posted - 2011.07.03 05:11:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Patient 2428190
Import all the old forum content on the new one.

Don't want to hear your excuses, your webteam should be very, very grateful you didn't fire every single one of them for their mind blowing incompetence


This... you say you have two extra months... well USE them and overcome whatever 'technical problems' you have with importing 8 years of work by your players.

Or aren't we important enough to consider - yet again?

Habaticus
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.03 06:57:00 - [80]
 

Someone needs to explain to me what the problem is with archiving the old forums. It seems to me if you want to research or reread something in the old forums you push the old button and push the new button for the new forum. All info is still available.

What am I missing?

El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.07.03 07:47:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: John McCreedy
Originally by: CCP Fallout

When we do move over to the new forums, we'll be keeping this instance open for a few days, and then archiving the material so that no data is lost.


Is it not possible, and if so easier, to import this forum's database to the new forums?



It shouldn't be that hard, folks import data between forums all the time.

gargars
Posted - 2011.07.03 23:23:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Habaticus
Someone needs to explain to me what the problem is with archiving the old forums. It seems to me if you want to research or reread something in the old forums you push the old button and push the new button for the new forum. All info is still available.

What am I missing?


IMO the problem is you are then asking people to really do up to four things to find info.

A) Search 'new' forum (with functional search) - see if they get what they need. If not then -
B) Go to google and do the same search on 'old' forum (since old forum search CCP left broken). Then -
C) Weed results between old and new forums by looking at each address... Then -
D) Go to old forum if you find a 'hit' there.

Bit much to ask paying customers to do don't you think? Frankly not importing 8 years of customer contributions is VERY insulting... especially since they now admit they have two extra months of time to work on it.

JMERCENARY
Posted - 2011.07.04 11:01:00 - [83]
 

Edited by: JMERCENARY on 04/07/2011 11:01:36
Originally by: Habaticus
Someone needs to explain to me what the problem is with archiving the old forums. It seems to me if you want to research or reread something in the old forums you push the old button and push the new button for the new forum. All info is still available.

What am I missing?


you are missing that CCP wants to DELETE a lot of threads.
Installing Incarna AND the new forums at the same time ought to have been tipping everybody off that something is rotten in the Kingdom of Denmark.
Why do i think that things are going to get worse?
Much worse so their way out of the PR mess would be new forums?

Riedle
Minmatar
Paradox Collective
Posted - 2011.07.04 13:21:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: JMERCENARY
Edited by: JMERCENARY on 04/07/2011 11:01:36
Originally by: Habaticus
Someone needs to explain to me what the problem is with archiving the old forums. It seems to me if you want to research or reread something in the old forums you push the old button and push the new button for the new forum. All info is still available.

What am I missing?


you are missing that CCP wants to DELETE a lot of threads.
Installing Incarna AND the new forums at the same time ought to have been tipping everybody off that something is rotten in the Kingdom of Denmark.
Why do i think that things are going to get worse?
Much worse so their way out of the PR mess would be new forums?


Aww... You're a special little fellow aren't you?
*pats him gently on head*

Peer Pressure
Posted - 2011.07.05 00:07:00 - [85]
 

Not much testing going on any more, right? With 4 posts in the last 3 days.

CapitaneBruce
Posted - 2011.07.05 13:30:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
CCP: Breaking stuff that worked, ignoring stuff that's broken, and forcing you to use stuff that you don't like since 2003.

lol, best. quote. ever.

Joe Darkie
Minmatar
Darkies Mob
Posted - 2011.07.07 22:54:00 - [87]
 

dont like the new forums,couldnt you at least made the new look like the old, so we can fool ourselves something of the game we used to love still remains intact? be a sad day when these old forums are gone.

TamiyaCowboy
Caldari
KRAKEN FLEET
Posted - 2011.07.08 11:06:00 - [88]
 

CCP FallOut

what will happen to those users that DO NOT use evegate ?

i have not used and will not use evegate, never liked the idea. i do however like the forums here and use them, i have no need for evegate and have not used it, so where do i and others like myself stand.

exactly where are you going with this eve gate ****. why not just keep the forum going ? why push people into using eve-gate

Nii Khan
Space Morons
Posted - 2011.07.08 11:28:00 - [89]
 

I'm seeing lots of stuff which looks like relevant replies and could, on the surface, pass as feedback. But when I put my super high magnification goggles on and look again a lot of it just reads as LOLWHINEOMGMYVIEWISMOSTIMPORTANTZIH8CCP4EVERYTHINGCONSPIRACYIMANEXPERTETCBBQFISHSTIX.

Intredasting.

Habaticus
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.09 00:17:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: TamiyaCowboy
CCP FallOut

what will happen to those users that DO NOT use evegate ?

i have not used and will not use evegate, never liked the idea. i do however like the forums here and use them, i have no need for evegate and have not used it, so where do i and others like myself stand.

exactly where are you going with this eve gate ****. why not just keep the forum going ? why push people into using eve-gate


The obvious answer to your question is that you will not have access to the forums. Not that the community is missing anything by your loss. Your posts have always been whining and complaining with nothing constuctive offered. You'll log into EVEGate in the end - your kind always does and when you do you'll just go on my hide list.


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