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CCP Fallout

Posted - 2011.06.29 17:58:00 - [1]
 

Hello all,

For the last couple of weeks, we have been conducting the second round of beta tests for our new forums <https://testforums.evegate.com/>. The feedback we have received has been tremendously helpful, and we are grateful to those of you who have taken the opportunity to help us with the beta test. We have decided to extend the test until July 8, 2011, at which time we will close the beta test forums.

Originally, we had planned to close the test forums much sooner, and wanted to deploy the new forums over the final week of June, however, we feel that doing so at this time would be detrimental to the ongoing discussions regarding both CCP and the current state of EVE Online. We’ve been listening to and following your concerns and criticisms closely, and do not want to risk disrupting the flow of discussion by opening new forums.

We plan on deploying the new forums in August. Until then...

Fly safely!

Team Occam’s Razor and the EVE Online Community Team

Heilig Nacht
Posted - 2011.06.29 18:19:00 - [2]
 

For the last couple of weeks, we have been conducting the second round of beta tests for our new forums <https://testforums.evegate.com/>. The feedback we have received has been tremendously helpful

We have decided to ignore all suggestions and any problems you may have found and role it out anyway

Tautut
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.29 18:33:00 - [3]
 

Good decision about delaying the rollout.
The new forums are worth the wait

Ein Spiegel
Minmatar
Fly-by-Night Industries LLC PTY LTD
Posted - 2011.06.29 18:37:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Hello all,

For the last couple of weeks, we have been conducting the second round of beta tests for our new forums <https://testforums.evegate.com/>. The feedback we have received has been tremendously helpful, and we are grateful to those of you who have taken the opportunity to help us with the beta test. We have decided to extend the test until July 8, 2011, at which time we will close the beta test forums.

Originally, we had planned to close the test forums much sooner, and wanted to deploy the new forums over the final week of June, however, we feel that doing so at this time would be detrimental to the ongoing discussions regarding both CCP and the current state of EVE Online. We’ve been listening to and following your concerns and criticisms closely, and do not want to risk disrupting the flow of discussion by opening new forums.

We plan on deploying the new forums in August. Until then...

Fly safely!

Team Occam’s Razor and the EVE Online Community Team



Thank you, Fallout, for acknowledging that even if doing so was previously planned and the new forums are perfect, this just may not be the time to switch over to the new forums and lock down the old. Doing so during this somewhat delicate period may have reflected poorly, even if not intended, to those players who are wearing tinfoil hats (or monocles).

This is a point in the favor of "there's no great CCP conspiracy to stifle or hide all dissent against the great things coming Soon(tm)!" And possibly one of the better decisions made over the past week and a half. On the one hand, the emorage will continue... on the other hand, there's one less thing to rage about and the actual constructive discussions can continue.

Smoking Blunts
Posted - 2011.06.29 18:40:00 - [5]
 

so on the 8th of july were being moved over to them ugly forums. well you guys do know how to save peopel on there subs.

guess ill be in teh dark about what is going on cos there ****ing bad. that is if i decied to stay

El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.29 18:41:00 - [6]
 

A wise decision to delay but frankly I see no need for new forums, money spent developing them should of been spent on other things I believe.

I do applaud you realizing that if you wiped the forums in the next few days that you'd face a massive backlash just like SOE suffered when they wiped their forums during the NGE debacle in 2005.

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2011.06.29 18:47:00 - [7]
 

Can I suggest you keep the current forums coz they have their charm? Very Happy

/c

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2011.06.29 18:52:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Smoking Blunts
so on the 8th of july were being moved over to them ugly forums. well you guys do know how to save peopel on there subs.

guess ill be in teh dark about what is going on cos there ****ing bad. that is if i decied to stay


We are closing the test forums on the 8th. We are not opening the new forums as the default forums until August.

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2011.06.29 18:54:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: El'Niaga
A wise decision to delay but frankly I see no need for new forums, money spent developing them should of been spent on other things I believe.

I do applaud you realizing that if you wiped the forums in the next few days that you'd face a massive backlash just like SOE suffered when they wiped their forums during the NGE debacle in 2005.


The forums we use now severely lack not only basic features modern forums have (e.g. search), but barely have tools that work from the Community Management perspective (e.g. the delete thread button doesn't actually delete threads).

When we do move over to the new forums, we'll be keeping this instance open for a few days, and then archiving the material so that no data is lost.

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2011.06.29 18:54:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Chribba
Can I suggest you keep the current forums coz they have their charm? Very Happy

/c


No :D

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.06.29 18:59:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Chribba
Can I suggest you keep the current forums coz they have their charm? Very Happy

/c


No :D


Can we use signatures in the new forum? Because forum sigs make me bank.

Smoking Blunts
Posted - 2011.06.29 19:00:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Smoking Blunts on 29/06/2011 19:00:36
looking at the new forums, something they lack is the ability to actually read them for more than 5 mins with out a headache. see there has been vast improvments over the old new forums...
oh wait they are the same painful ones you guys had to pull down last time, way to go on improving them.
if i have any accounts left when they go live, no forums for me.

Maman Brigitte
Licentia Ex Vereor
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2011.06.29 19:04:00 - [13]
 

Heey... a good decision.

First one this month. I approve this trend.

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.06.29 19:06:00 - [14]
 

Will the extra time allow more functions to be added like polls and color skins?

Valeo Galaem
New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit
Sentient World Observation and Response Directive
Posted - 2011.06.29 19:09:00 - [15]
 

Will the be a devblog or forum post from the webdev team working on the new forums regarding which improvements identified in the community feedback will be made?

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.06.29 19:11:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Valeo Galaem
Will the be a devblog or forum post from the webdev team working on the new forums regarding which improvements identified in the community feedback will be made?



this.

devblog about what has been done to incorporate community feedback pl0x.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2011.06.29 19:15:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally, we had planned to close the test forums much sooner, and wanted to deploy the new forums over the final week of June, however, we feel that doing so at this time would be detrimental to the ongoing discussions regarding both CCP and the current state of EVE Online. We’ve been listening to and following your concerns and criticisms closely, and do not want to risk disrupting the flow of discussion by opening new forums.



Excellent decision!

Spookyjay
Caldari
Animosity.
Posted - 2011.06.29 19:24:00 - [18]
 

as far as i am concerned if the new forums do not change their window size they are a waste of time. I like the big open windows of this forum and the new one looks crap with a tiny little text area.

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2011.06.29 19:39:00 - [19]
 

CCP Elias' blog discusses the changes that were made.

Raid'En
Posted - 2011.06.29 19:43:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout

The forums we use now severely lack not only basic features modern forums have

the new forum lack some basic features of modern but even old forums, like color text for example...
will these things will be usable on august when it goes live ?
will some change from the feedback will be made before it goes live ?
cause we all remember last try ; not even there was the security hole, but there was also no modifications at all between test and live one >_<

Eclorc
Posted - 2011.06.29 19:49:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout

The forums we use now severely lack not only basic features modern forums have (e.g. search), but barely have tools that work from the Community Management perspective (e.g. the delete thread button doesn't actually delete threads).

When we do move over to the new forums, we'll be keeping this instance open for a few days, and then archiving the material so that no data is lost.



Will the archived forum data from here remain available to us for future viewing and reference?

YES/NO


Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.06.29 19:54:00 - [22]
 

Yes there is a tab added to the web site menu that says archived forums. When the forums got deployed last time that is how it worked.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.06.29 19:56:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
CCP Elias' blog discusses the changes that were made.
what about the feedback received on this test run?

it would be nice to see somebody from the team responsible to come up with a blog saying what will change and whatnot, based on this run's feedback.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.29 20:08:00 - [24]
 

CCP: Breaking stuff that worked, ignoring stuff that's broken, and forcing you to use stuff that you don't like since 2003.

gargars
Posted - 2011.06.29 20:36:00 - [25]
 

Can we assume that since CCP is now recognizing it has made mistakes in ingnoring the playerbase, that they have listened to the many complaints about their decision to not import the many years of current posts, and are going to do so?

Especially since you have a bonus two months to work on it, how much players want that to occur, and of course how much you care about our requests and opinions.

Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
Posted - 2011.06.29 20:46:00 - [26]
 

It was pushed back to keep threadnaughts on the forum that will eventually be killed, nice work ccp.

Riddick Liddell
Posted - 2011.06.29 20:47:00 - [27]
 

My accounts run out on the 8th but thanks anyway Smile

Send us a 3 day when they come out will you. So I can change my password again Smile

Skex Relbore
Gallente
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.06.29 20:51:00 - [28]
 

Well it's nice to see that you guys can make a smart decision when pressed hard enough. Lets hope this trend continues during and after the CSM summit.

Obviously Confidential
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:00:00 - [29]
 

Good decision. Thank you :)

Smoking Blunts
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:05:00 - [30]
 

will account managment work through the 'new' forums? unlike last time


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