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TurAmarth ElRandir
Minmatar
Hiigaran Bounty Hunters Inc.
DemSal Unlimited
Posted - 2011.06.29 15:19:00 - [1]
 

If One Whines, One should be able to give Alternative Solutions… so my ideas are:

I have no alternative solution for MT... CCP, please do not go that route.
We are not your "Golden Goose", we are your clients and your playerbase... we rent time on your server and you are getting plenty rich off of that, isn't it enough? The economy is PLAYER BASED... You have said so, quite proudly, yourself. From mining the ores to selling the ships and mods... PLAYER BASED. No 'magically' produced items.

I have turned off the CQ. It is less than useless in its current form, it is extremely laggy; gives us some (but not all) of the functionality we had before but in a far less friendly and vastly more time consuming format. It does not replace ship spinning w/ something as, or more, interesting to do than ship spinning was.

(1) Options other than docking,(speeding up actual gameplay [and possibly helping to reduce lag]):
Give us the option to contact our agents and conduct business w/ them OUTSIDE of the stations (within docking range) via comms like we do now for Agents in Ships. Getting missions, completing missions and getting paid all do not REQUIRE one to dock. Docking is required ONLY if cargo needs to be loaded/unloaded for missions, or to change or refit ship(s).

(2) Make CQ more interesting until WIS is ready... (this is my pet request):
(a) Strike a deal w/ Netflix so we can rent moves, TV shows and watch them on the CQ big screen. I personally would LOVE to watch "Firefly", "Star Trek", "BSG", or "Clear Skys" in the CQ.
(b) Possibly add a change of view from 3rd person behind your toon to 1st person on the couch watching HoloV.

(3) New Ship Spinning:
(a) Give us the ability to click on the Ship Hologram and see our current ship either full screen and rendered similar to the old ship spinning in dock view ~or~
(b) click on the Ship Hologram and change view to 1st Person with a fully rendered model we can manipulate and spin.

(4) and, for the sheer hell (and fun) of it... put in a bathroom. Allow the toon to enter, and... a few minutes later... exit w/ flushing sounds... Make it last long enough (on average) so the player can go too. (We all might be surprised at how many might use this feature..) =]

Just one pilot's opinion... Fly Safe and see you in the Sky... =/|)=

Please see my blog for my full thoughts... http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/2011/06/incarna-mt-riots-and-directors-retreat.html


Fistme
Posted - 2011.06.29 16:21:00 - [2]
 

here is my incarna suggestion. stop putting dev resources into a fancy space version of 2nd life and get back to the core of the game, internet space ships....

TurAmarth ElRandir
Minmatar
Hiigaran Bounty Hunters Inc.
DemSal Unlimited
Posted - 2011.06.29 16:37:00 - [3]
 

Fistme (whataname)... I do't disagree w/ you, but... we don't run the servers or own CCP and Incarna is here, and I think we all know it ain't going away. Several thousand people, maybe 10's of thousands have yelled "NO" to Incrana... out of 300K this leaves a couple HUNDRED thousand who haven't either spoken up or who like or at least don't mind it... The yea votes (even the silent ones) have the majority.

OK, so we have to deal with it. Period. Well, life is like that isn't it? And the "sandbox" ideal is to be lifelike... and sometimes lifelike seems unfair, well life is unfair. What's that you say? EVE is not 'life' as it is a program written by people? Yup it is... and on where in they are tying to do 2 interdependent things... create a online GAME thousands want to play and profit from that creation. Again, the majority win. Just cause we, the minority who don't want Incarna, are somewhat more vocal with our Dislike Per Second... doesn't mean we will get what we want.

Leading us back to we have to deal with it. Period. So let us get verbal with some positive changes... Ask for things that will make it better for you. And if there are none, either unsub or deal with it.

I personally look forward to the day when I can dock, walk through the station to a sky cable lift or a shuttle bay and fly down to the surface to join in with the Dusters and do some up close and personal DPS swapping!


Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar
Clan Hyena
Posted - 2011.06.30 04:50:00 - [4]
 

So... I take it you mean ship spinning other than spinning the model in the Ship Fitting window? Or just watching as either of the holograms spin, or as the actual ship itself spins (as all three do spin, albeit at a relatively slow rate (dependent on the size/agility).

Personally, I actually avoided ship spinning, as I have odd OCD tendencies that developed in relation to the ship orientation. But I do agree those who did enjoy it (or at least use it as a distraction) should be allowed to do it again- in a better form than the Ship Fitting window if it is inadequate.

TurAmarth ElRandir
Minmatar
Hiigaran Bounty Hunters Inc.
DemSal Unlimited
Posted - 2011.06.30 19:06:00 - [5]
 

Alejan, basically yes. I mean either a click to go back to the old docked "view" of your ship or a new "view", say 1st person, as though you were sitting on the couch and the hologram becomes fully rendered so you could manipulate it, rotate on all axis and zoom in and out as fully as before.

Strangely for an awful lot of us, it was a rather addictive way to burn time when waiting on a fleet up for a mission or a war fleet, or waiting on a corpmate who was fitting a ship, or getting a mission, or you just wanted to be ingame w/ your mates but didn't actually feel like "doing" anything in particular. For some unfathomable reason, it simply never got boring.

What's even far worse now, is the static view you get if you: "Esc" > and disable "Load Station Environment"... you get just a really crappy pic of the locked 'door' that is supposed to lead out to the 'Fantastically Rich Interactive Environment' of (read that-one-day-will-be) Walking in Stations... bah, humbug. It's actually a huge let down...

I have even accidentally undocked in the wrong ship... cause in order to even know what ship you are in, you have to open the fitting window... what crap.

Seriously... CCP can do better.


Assassin126
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:11:00 - [6]
 

First idea is very good and has a practical use, second one, not sure how practical it would be, maybe if it could run videos from your own hard drive, although that could have compatibility problems with different video formats, but its been done with the jukebox so maybe :) new ship spinning would look cool, depending how much development time it would take. Bathroom? I dare not ask what you where thinking at the time of posting that bit :)

Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar
Clan Hyena
Posted - 2011.06.30 20:20:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Alejan Gerakh on 30/06/2011 20:21:57
Originally by: TurAmarth ElRandir
Alejan, basically yes. I mean either a click to go back to the old docked "view" of your ship or a new "view", say 1st person, as though you were sitting on the couch and the hologram becomes fully rendered so you could manipulate it, rotate on all axis and zoom in and out as fully as before.

Strangely for an awful lot of us, it was a rather addictive way to burn time when waiting on a fleet up for a mission or a war fleet, or waiting on a corpmate who was fitting a ship, or getting a mission, or you just wanted to be ingame w/ your mates but didn't actually feel like "doing" anything in particular. For some unfathomable reason, it simply never got boring.

What's even far worse now, is the static view you get if you: "Esc" > and disable "Load Station Environment"... you get just a really crappy pic of the locked 'door' that is supposed to lead out to the 'Fantastically Rich Interactive Environment' of (read that-one-day-will-be) Walking in Stations... bah, humbug. It's actually a huge let down...

I have even accidentally undocked in the wrong ship... cause in order to even know what ship you are in, you have to open the fitting window... what crap.

Seriously... CCP can do better.

Actually, you don't need to open the fitting window to know what ship you are in. I always have the 'Ship Hangar' (normally titled just 'Ships') window open virtually permanently when I'm docked in a station, and, in that window, the active ship is surrounded in a hollow grey-ish box. If I wasn't at work, I'd take a screenshot and post it.

It's not much, but that's what I've relied on to tell me what ship I am currently in... Even before Incarna, I sometimes referenced that window- sometimes my views in-station can get THAT cluttered.

As for your suggested approach to bringing it back, I actually wonder about all the tidbits we've been hearing suggesting good news relating to ship spinning... If perhaps that might be one of the things CCP mentioned to them? (EDIT: that is, the method you suggested being one that CCP may well have mentioned to CSM, but we'll probably not know for months)

TurAmarth ElRandir
Minmatar
Hiigaran Bounty Hunters Inc.
DemSal Unlimited
Posted - 2011.07.01 20:57:00 - [8]
 

Re: 'bathroom', as I said, just for fun... not a serious request... =]

And yes, there are text cues fr what ship... but it's just not the same nor anywhere near as satisfying...

I do hope the watchin HoloV in the CQ gets added... but I ain't holding my breath.

And I still hope CCP hasn't gone off the rails Greedwise... we'll see. They intro Pay-To-Win, and thereby let in hordes of children, and I will unsub faster than you can rage quit in Jita for 1 ISK!

TurA =/|)= http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/



 

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