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Mytzso
Private Nuisance
Segregati0n
Posted - 2011.06.29 12:47:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Govinda Sertan

Just explaining


You seem to be knowledgeable in the ways of online gaming, you must be one of them peasants living in the basement of their mother's hut.

Johannes Alexodia
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.29 12:49:00 - [92]
 

60 Bucks for a monocle... I could buy a nice dinner with that. Honestly I think monocles look weird. I will stick with my beer stained shirts. 60 bucks is a lot of liquor to drink while I play Internet Spaceships.

Enraged Stoat
Posted - 2011.06.29 12:54:00 - [93]
 

Wow, plz all stfu about monocles.

There is no law that requires everyone be able to afford all items in a game. If you can't (or even if you can but don't find it worth the money), go find some tissues to cry into. STFU and let people decide for themselves, and purchase a monocle or not. It's not your business to be whining about it.

Govinda Sertan
Posted - 2011.06.29 12:55:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: Mytzso
You seem to be knowledgeable in the ways of online gaming, you must be one of them peasants living in the basement of their mother's hut.


Job/appt.

Try again.

U really mad isn't it ? Very Happy

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.29 12:57:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: RougeOperator
Edited by: RougeOperator on 29/06/2011 10:06:45
Edited by: RougeOperator on 29/06/2011 10:02:41

Seems the current move by CCP alts/fanbois is to make everyone think only cool people have the monocle.

And to make it cool by acting all edgy about having one. That only those with balls have will have one therefore its cool. Your not hardboiled without a monocle.

I cant be the only only one that has seen the rash of monocle threads started by monocle owners. CCP give you guys a free monocle to advertise and force the "its cool to have one" meme.

There are also the rationalizing away the costs threads too.

CCP spin control out in full force.

Edit: cant forget all these, "MTs not so bad" threads either. Seems this is the PR strategy until the CSM where they tell us they are doing MT no matter what.


If you cant "rationalize away" free you are pretty ****ing dumb. Just saying.

olimacus
Red Sky Morning
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:02:00 - [96]
 



The meme is not 'it is cool to have one'; it is 'I have one, and I look superior because of it'


/me sips Courvoisier while servants polish my monocle as I lounge in a limited edition, 20,000 Arum vat of Quafe Awesomesauce

Mytzso
Private Nuisance
Segregati0n
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:03:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Govinda Sertan
Job

Only a working peasant is a good peasant. I am pleased you know your place.


kla samon
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:11:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Govinda Sertan
Originally by: Bad Messenger
In that aspect, titans are cheat.


How so ? Neutral

Titans are made by players without RM, by exploiting the rules.

You make no sense.

Originally by: Mytzso
Originally by: Govinda Sertan
There is actually a lot of players who enjoy spending hours and hours to make their avatar.

Peasant, did you spend hours making your ugly avatar?



Nope, i dont care about that aspect of the game. Just explaining how RMT is a cheat.

U all mad ? Very Happy


So you really think people buying plexes to sell for isk are doing it for vanity items rather than pvp ships and mods? I seriously doubt anyone who has a vanity item paid real cash for it.

You seem to be really late to the protest game if you are against people using real money to gain an advantage in eve.

Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Global Economy Experts
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:12:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Johannes Alexodia
60 Bucks for a monocle... I could buy a nice dinner with that. Honestly I think monocles look weird. I will stick with my beer stained shirts. 60 bucks is a lot of liquor to drink while I play Internet Spaceships.


Don't think the monocleans spent $60 for their monocles. More like 1.6 Bil ISK. Last I heard, we can't turn that 1.6 Bil ISK into $$, so unfortunately they didn't have the option of buying liquor with 1.6 Bil ISK.

You're one of the ones that don't get it.

Govinda Sertan
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:27:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Mytzso
Originally by: Govinda Sertan
Job

Only a working peasant is a good peasant. I am pleased you know your place.


Yeah yeah. Only monocle-owners are cool.

Now there is a "monocle aristocracy".

Way to prove how much harm a slice of RMT can do to a community.

Mytzso
Private Nuisance
Segregati0n
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:28:00 - [101]
 

Edited by: Mytzso on 29/06/2011 13:30:56
Originally by: Govinda Sertan
Yeah yeah. Only monocle-owners are cool.

Now there is a "monocle aristocracy".

At least you are right about that peasant.

EDIT: peasant coding removed

Alarion Detheron
Caldari Navy Task Force 62
Rieos Coalition
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:31:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Govinda Sertan
Originally by: Mytzso
Originally by: Govinda Sertan
Job

Only a working peasant is a good peasant. I am pleased you know your place.


Yeah yeah. Only monocle-owners are cool.

Now there is a "monocle aristocracy".

Way to prove how much harm a slice of RMT can do to a community.


I don't think you realize you're being trolled. Successful troll is successful.

Originally by: Dretzle Omega
Originally by: Johannes Alexodia
60 Bucks for a monocle... I could buy a nice dinner with that. Honestly I think monocles look weird. I will stick with my beer stained shirts. 60 bucks is a lot of liquor to drink while I play Internet Spaceships.


Don't think the monocleans spent $60 for their monocles. More like 1.6 Bil ISK. Last I heard, we can't turn that 1.6 Bil ISK into $$, so unfortunately they didn't have the option of buying liquor with 1.6 Bil ISK.

You're one of the ones that don't get it.


The ISK/AUR currency cycle goes more than just one way. I think most people forget that.

Govinda Sertan
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:37:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Alarion Detheron
I don't think you realize you're being trolled. Successful troll is successful.


I do realize it's a troll.

Still, the troll is "RMT-induced".

Well anyway, the way CCP screwd up with the Eve community really feels awful.

Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Global Economy Experts
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:41:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Govinda Sertan
Originally by: Alarion Detheron
I don't think you realize you're being trolled. Successful troll is successful.


I do realize it's a troll.

Still, the troll is "RMT-induced".

Well anyway, the way CCP screwd up with the Eve community really feels awful.


Why weren't you so butthurt for the past several years that PLEX existed? The only thing this NeX thing does is sustain PLEX demand. What happened to the "LOL You bought that ship with $$. Fail!" attitude?

Now it's butthurt because I can buy a commanding shirt with ISK.

Mytzso
Private Nuisance
Segregati0n
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:47:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Dretzle Omega
I can buy a commanding shirt with ISK.

Spite your monocle-less status, I do approve of your choice of garments. You may not be a Monocleer, hence I cannot treat you as an Equal, however, you are not a plain peasant either. I think you could be classified as a peasant foreman.

That said, I do find your shirt most commanding. Well chosen garment indeed.

Alarion Detheron
Caldari Navy Task Force 62
Rieos Coalition
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:52:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Mytzso
Originally by: Dretzle Omega
I can buy a commanding shirt with ISK.

Spite your monocle-less status, I do approve of your choice of garments. You may not be a Monocleer, hence I cannot treat you as an Equal, however, you are not a plain peasant either.



What about gentry? Or middle class?

Haradriel Tian
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:54:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: kla samon
Originally by: Govinda Sertan
Originally by: Bad Messenger
In that aspect, titans are cheat.


How so ? Neutral

Titans are made by players without RM, by exploiting the rules.

You make no sense.

Originally by: Mytzso
Originally by: Govinda Sertan
There is actually a lot of players who enjoy spending hours and hours to make their avatar.

Peasant, did you spend hours making your ugly avatar?



Nope, i dont care about that aspect of the game. Just explaining how RMT is a cheat.

U all mad ? Very Happy


So you really think people buying plexes to sell for isk are doing it for vanity items rather than pvp ships and mods? I seriously doubt anyone who has a vanity item paid real cash for it.

You seem to be really late to the protest game if you are against people using real money to gain an advantage in eve.


When you pay your next months sub insted of using the plex for it, you equivalently paid Real Money.

Time is money the time you spent in game to make the isk to buy a plex etc.

Mytzso
Private Nuisance
Segregati0n
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:55:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Alarion Detheron
What about gentry? Or middle class?

I don't see you wearing a commanding shirt peasant, you have no say on the matter.

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:55:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Govinda Sertan
Yeah yeah. Only monocle-owners are cool.

Now there is a "monocle aristocracy".

Way to prove how much harm a slice of RMT can do to a community.



A sentence I read elsewhere from one of the most charming monocle protesters here which fits this post of yours very well:


"This is eve after all, I expect even the vanity item "pvp" will be brutal."

Amen to that.


Alarion Detheron
Caldari Navy Task Force 62
Rieos Coalition
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:56:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Mytzso
Originally by: Alarion Detheron
What about gentry? Or middle class?

I don't see you wearing a commanding shirt peasant, you have no say on the matter.



Sorry, sir. They didn't have a color I liked. :trollface:

Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:57:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Mytzso
Originally by: Govinda Sertan
Job

Only a working peasant is a good peasant. I am pleased you know your place.




You are speaking directly with the peons you claim to be better than. That is the job of your Estate Manager.

Unfortunately you also appear to have purchased your monocle via some sort of retail outlet. A true Gent would either have obtained his monocle via a private commission or at the very least by artisans on his own estate

Reluctantly I must conclude that you are either not as wealthy as you claim or have made your money in trade!

Maverick2011
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:57:00 - [112]
 

Let these idiots pay large sums of cash for CCP for a blind eye while we dont and play the same game. We gotta praise these dudes actually for spending their money with shat so we dont have to.

Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Global Economy Experts
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:59:00 - [113]
 

Edited by: Dretzle Omega on 29/06/2011 14:00:06
Originally by: Haradriel Tian
Originally by: kla samon
Originally by: Govinda Sertan
Originally by: Bad Messenger
In that aspect, titans are cheat.


How so ? Neutral

Titans are made by players without RM, by exploiting the rules.

You make no sense.

Originally by: Mytzso
Originally by: Govinda Sertan
There is actually a lot of players who enjoy spending hours and hours to make their avatar.

Peasant, did you spend hours making your ugly avatar?



Nope, i dont care about that aspect of the game. Just explaining how RMT is a cheat.

U all mad ? Very Happy


So you really think people buying plexes to sell for isk are doing it for vanity items rather than pvp ships and mods? I seriously doubt anyone who has a vanity item paid real cash for it.

You seem to be really late to the protest game if you are against people using real money to gain an advantage in eve.


When you pay your next months sub insted of using the plex for it, you equivalently paid Real Money.

Time is money the time you spent in game to make the isk to buy a plex etc.


Nonsense, for two reasons.

1) I pay a subscription to play the game. As I play the game I make millions upon billions of ISK. If I choose not to buy a PLEX to pay for my gametime, it is a twist of logic to equate that with buying PLEX with $$ to get more ISK. I'm playing the game, in a subscribed mode, as it was designed and played even before PLEX came out. By no stretch of the imagination does that equate me to buying ISK with $$.

2) Many of us have enough ISK to both keep subscribed with PLEX and buy fancy outfits.

Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Global Economy Experts
Posted - 2011.06.29 14:01:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Mytzso
Originally by: Dretzle Omega
I can buy a commanding shirt with ISK.

Spite your monocle-less status, I do approve of your choice of garments. You may not be a Monocleer, hence I cannot treat you as an Equal, however, you are not a plain peasant either. I think you could be classified as a peasant foreman.

That said, I do find your shirt most commanding. Well chosen garment indeed.



Thank you, good sir. I consider myself lower middle upper class.

Haradriel Tian
Posted - 2011.06.29 14:05:00 - [115]
 

Edited by: Haradriel Tian on 29/06/2011 14:07:52
Edited by: Haradriel Tian on 29/06/2011 14:06:26
Originally by: Dretzle Omega


Nonsense, for two reasons.

1) I pay a subscription to play the game. As I play the game I make millions upon billions of ISK. If I choose not to buy a PLEX to pay for my gametime, it is a twist of logic to equate that with buying PLEX with $$ to get more ISK. I'm playing the game, in a subscribed mode, as it was designed and played even before PLEX came out. By no stretch of the imagination does that equate me to buying ISK with $$.

2) Many of us have enough ISK to both keep subscribed with PLEX and buy fancy outfits.


Nice mental gymnastics you need to twist it into somehow plex being free.

At some point ccp got money for that plex. Its value is = to that money. Just cause you paid in isk does not magic away that IRL money value.

For every plex you don't Redeem for game time you lost money.

Mushimushi XOXO
Hugs'n Kisses
Posted - 2011.06.29 14:09:00 - [116]
 

The funny thing is that CCP has to act quick to fill the hole of 5500 cancelled subs. They can convince the ragequitters to re-sub or they can try to get new players.

Not only that a lot of potential new players got the message "OMG they charge $68 for DLC!!!". The attitude of moronocle-wearers here on the forum isnīt helping either.

So let them troll, it only strengthens the position of the protesters.




VKhaun Vex
Posted - 2011.06.29 14:09:00 - [117]
 

Edited by: VKhaun Vex on 29/06/2011 14:11:51
CCP alts and fanbois made it popular?

LOL



How about... CCP alts and Fanbois bought them because the protesters made them popular?

We see shallow arguements based on nothing. I see real concerns drowned out by ******ation like quoting documents that were people speaking HYPOTHETICALLY on an issue they were TOLD TO from a position THEY WERE TOLD TO like it's a game plan for the future, and even that is the best most can do in these threads. Usually it's quotes out of context or that don't even say what they say it does.

Their self contained arguments start with assumptions like 'first items not involving player markets' as if BPO's and skillbooks haven't been giving items and skills out of thin air for real money (PLEX sold for ISK) for years. As if killing NPC's didn't drop loot out of thin air. As if minerals ever came from the player market and Asteroids were added with Incarna. Assumptions like 'have to pay money to be competetive' when all along it's been known you could buy anything in the aur shop for ISK through PLEX.

IT'S NOT EVEN A REAL MICROTRANSACTION SHOP
You can't buy anything directly for money!

You could call it an ISK shop, if you can call it a cash shop. Both are equidistant from PLEX as long as PLEX are sold for both, and if players stopped as the doomsday people say they will due to prices, CCP has a million options to keep them available for ISK. You can't found all your arguments and problems on the assumption that CCP will sit back and let it's game implode and expect to be taken seriously.




No.

The protesters being this thick made Monocles popular. I would never have bought one if it didn't make those people cry so much and see threads like this. I wouldn't care to make them cry if they weren't so loud about how stupid they are.

Protesters made it popular, because easily proving dozens of people wrong is fun, and every time a monocle conversation comes up I get to do just that. Laughing

RougeOperator
Posted - 2011.06.29 14:10:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Mushimushi XOXO
The funny thing is that CCP has to act quick to fill the hole of 5500 cancelled subs. They can convince the ragequitters to re-sub or they can try to get new players.

Not only that a lot of potential new players got the message "OMG they charge $68 for DLC!!!". The attitude of moronocle-wearers here on the forum isnīt helping either.

So let them troll, it only strengthens the position of the protesters.






I realize this but I dont want EvE to die. I protest cause I want to pull it back from the cliff its trying to jump off of.

Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
Posted - 2011.06.29 14:12:00 - [119]
 

LOL! I love it! I love the new Monocle "peasant" meme.

Keep it up guys! CCP sell more monocles!

But please give me my ship spinning docked interface back!

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.06.29 14:12:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: VKhaun Vex

No.

The protesters being this thick made Monocles popular. I would never have bought one if it didn't make those people cry so much and see threads like this. I wouldn't care to make them cry if they weren't so loud about how stupid they are.




Well said.


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