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Jessie Dune
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.28 18:47:00 - [1]
 

First off I would of asked this privately, but it seems I am denied the means so here goes.

My sources have informed me that a director of GRD has made it policy that everyone who has a relationship with a individual that is red to EM must record and hand to him copies of their, and I quote "Intimate actions." Is this just a director needing to be nosey, or has gradient seriously tried to take away the most basic of freedoms from its members.

As a long term supporter of EM I would prefer to think a director was just a bit power mad, then that the principle member of EM, a freedom fighting alliance, wants to deny its members the freedom of seeing who they wish to, without becoming the talk of the mess the next day.

So whats the story? and my sources are numerous and trustworthy so not really much point of denying it.

((OOc; Edited and reposted to keep Navi and his mod stick happy, will copy the relevant replys over asap.))

Jessie Dune
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.28 18:52:00 - [2]
 

The following are copys from the old post, witch had to be changed because Navigater said so.

Originally by: Karlos Korach
Y'know, this is a funny one to me.

Gradient tried for so long to harm my relationship with my Fiancée, and tried to keep it in the dark that one of their Directors was involved with a Gurista, a pirate.

They pressured her and pressured her. Even demoted her and victimised her eventually to try and get her to break away from me. She was very nearly outcast by her own people, her own blood, because she chose to be with me.

In the end, Gradient's leadership are nothing more than a pack of racist, belligerant control freaks hell bent on keeping their own little inbred society going.

The manifesto of the current Republic Regime under Shakor is one of tolerance and one of resurgency to bring the Republic storming into modern and progressive times, yet corporations like Gradient remain closed off, rooted in the past, unwilling to risk interaction with anyone not of their blood and breeding.

Racist, belligerant, arrogant and intolerant morons lead that corporation, and it's no surprise that one of the largest powerhouses in Electus Matari eventually up and left.

If Sadik wants answers, he can stop harassing her and come to me. I've got all the answers he needs.



Originally by: Kyo Haku
You are partially correct. The standing order is "All members of Gradient are aware that close association with hostiles is dangerous to themselves and the corporation. If a relationship of any kind beyond "talking terms" develops between a member of Gradient and a hostile (as defined by corp or alliance standings), the member of Gradient will inform one of their superiors (shift manager, director, or CEO) and give reasons for this association, to prevent misunderstandings and possible allegiations of treason."

Without going into detail about the internal discussion, this order, while implemented by Mr. Sadik, was approved by the CEO and created to prevent conflicts of interest.


Elses Offical response

Quote:
aptain Sonja Dragooran was not demoted, but voluntarily stepped down from a position of command when realizing she was compromised by a conflict of interests. She remains a member of the corporation in good standing.

Otherwise, this is a Gradient internal matter and will not be further discussed in public. Pilot Kyo Haku's explanation is sufficient for any outsider.

Thank you.

Elsebeth Rhiannon
CEO
Gradient


Jessie Dune
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.28 18:57:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: JLyn Farel
Quote:
Originally by: Karlos Korachi
The manifesto of the current Republic Regime under Shakor is one of tolerance and one of resurgency to bring the Republic storming into modern and progressive times, yet corporations like Gradient remain closed off, rooted in the past, unwilling to risk interaction with anyone not of their blood and breeding.




This sounds contradictory. You are comparing the past affiliations (Midular ?) of openess, with Shakorite doctrines revolving around a strong cultural and nationalistic identity, yet you state that hermetic and insular relationships are the proper of the first Matari Republic.

If I misunderstood something, please do not take offense of my comment.

Quote:
Originally by: Jessie Dune

So do you suspect this policy is even more pressure placed upon your fiancée after all else failed? I'm just trying to find out why GRD made this, basically Amarr like move, though I think you summed up their leadership nicely.




I highly doubt any proper Amarrian would act like this. When similar cases happen in conservative or reclusive families/entities, they usually try to cut it off as soon as they can.

Dame Death
Minmatar
Core Impulse
Posted - 2011.06.28 19:05:00 - [4]
 

Was going to post to the old one, so will reply to this one.

I aint EM's biggest fan but even I thought they was better then this, GRD's pilots fight day in and day out for the freedom of Matar, and yet their directorship decides to implement this policy?

I agree with Karlos, no wonder Re-AW left.

Hikiko JiDann
Posted - 2011.06.28 20:41:00 - [5]
 

This is all quite amusing.

Considering that Dame there got drummed out of that alliance for pretty much being a trouble maker to start with, and the fact that this Jessie Dune is nothing more than a paid lackey of hers to start with, this is nothing more than yet another weak attempt to cause trouble, from what I hear, and from my inside sources report.

Oh, and I also hear that Re-Aw left for other reasons than just what was posted here as well, so hopefully not too many fall for the overly trollish attempts listed thus far.

Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.06.28 22:07:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Hikiko JiDann

Considering that Dame there got drummed out of that alliance for pretty much being a trouble maker to start with, and the fact that this Jessie Dune is nothing more than a paid lackey of hers to start with, this is nothing more than yet another weak attempt to cause trouble, from what I hear, and from my inside sources report.



The similarity in dress style between Eliza and associates does kinda give it away, doesn't it?

Mizhara Del'thul
Minmatar
Lutinari Syndicate
Electus Matari
Posted - 2011.06.28 22:48:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Mizhara Del''thul on 28/06/2011 22:48:30
Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath
Originally by: Hikiko JiDann

Considering that Dame there got drummed out of that alliance for pretty much being a trouble maker to start with, and the fact that this Jessie Dune is nothing more than a paid lackey of hers to start with, this is nothing more than yet another weak attempt to cause trouble, from what I hear, and from my inside sources report.



The similarity in dress style between Eliza and associates does kinda give it away, doesn't it?


I've been wondering about this apparent Fellowship of Torpedo **** for a while.
It suddenly made sense when someone pointed out they're all Eliza's hired hands.

Damnit... Torpedo Jubblies? Frontpieces? Whatever's not broken by that bloody filter.

Karlos Korachi
Caldari
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.28 22:55:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Jessie Dune


Originally by: Karlos Korach
.....




If you're gonna re-use my quotes, at least have the common decency to spell my name correctly, you massive dumbass.


Boma Airaken
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
Posted - 2011.06.29 02:11:00 - [9]
 

I cut myself shaving today. Man did it suck. You know how sometimes you wake up and you are just in a totally fantastic mood and **** goes **** up on you in a flash?

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.29 02:14:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Boma Airaken
I cut myself shaving today. Man did it suck. You know how sometimes you wake up and you are just in a totally fantastic mood and **** goes **** up on you in a flash?


I know that feeling man, I got my lip ring snagged on a face cloth one time.

GOD DAMN that hurt.


Jason Galente
Gallente
mishima ryu
Posted - 2011.06.29 02:29:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Boma Airaken
I cut myself shaving today. Man did it suck. You know how sometimes you wake up and you are just in a totally fantastic mood and **** goes **** up on you in a flash?


I know that feeling man, I got my lip ring snagged on a face cloth one time.

GOD DAMN that hurt.




A friend of mine has a lip ring and he was getting intimate with a girl who also had a lip ring, and they got tangled.

Now that sucks. Took them 10 minutes to figure out how to untangle it.

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.29 02:33:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Jason Galente
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Boma Airaken
I cut myself shaving today. Man did it suck. You know how sometimes you wake up and you are just in a totally fantastic mood and **** goes **** up on you in a flash?


I know that feeling man, I got my lip ring snagged on a face cloth one time.

GOD DAMN that hurt.




A friend of mine has a lip ring and he was getting intimate with a girl who also had a lip ring, and they got tangled.

Now that sucks. Took them 10 minutes to figure out how to untangle it.



I'm far to skilled for that to happen Wink


Medarr
Amarr
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.06.29 14:54:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Boma Airaken
I cut myself shaving today. Man did it suck. You know how sometimes you wake up and you are just in a totally fantastic mood and **** goes **** up on you in a flash?


Man i ran out of coffie... Much Much worse when waking up....

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.29 15:31:00 - [14]
 

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