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Klokwerks
Posted - 2011.06.28 14:56:00 - [391]
 

I guess CCP forgot the first rule of EVE - don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Almost, anyways. Those shiny new ships they're getting seem to make their Flagship sink. ugh

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.28 15:03:00 - [392]
 


I'm voting YES on every game changing NEX item there is :) Hope you enjoy your paywall.

I love surveys, glad the CSM chose to do one, I can keep making accounts to skew them in the PAYWALL favour :)

Viking Sven
Posted - 2011.06.28 15:07:00 - [393]
 

Yeah this peeves me something fierce.

removed. Please refrain from this type of language. Navigator

I am not paying for Dust. Even though I own a PS3, I have zero intention of buying a MT FPS on the PS3, and I definitely have no intention of paying for the development of it out of my pocket.

It's obvious CCP stole the devs/artists/etc. from Eve to cover Dust/WoD... severe lack of content and polish in the past few expansions shows that. Eve players have been paying for a half-assed job for too long. I'm sick of this ****. I've unsubbed 2 of my 3 accounts already, and am seriously considering unsubbing the third.

CCP, give us what we pay for.

larry hotter bigpants
Posted - 2011.06.28 15:08:00 - [394]
 

Edited by: larry hotter bigpants on 28/06/2011 15:10:52
Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 28/06/2011 12:47:57



CSM is already AGREEING TO NON VANITY ITEMS

I'm going to click YES to all NON VANITY items. Hope you enjoy the ride.





Well it doesn't say that. I'm not disagreeing that they already know they will make conceissions, but where does it say that NON VANITY items WILL be sold on that forum?

Frankly, if CCP want non vanity items, let them. Let the people left with that mess deal with it. All the sane people will have left and CCP will have less subscribers anyway. Really its their fault for not listening to us and doing dumb things with their money., I will NOT support them if they go MT Pay to Win. No one should. The game is no longer EVE, and if you want to be social have your friends find new games to play with them.

Wolf Kruol
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.28 15:09:00 - [395]
 

What I love about this whole scandal is that we have to pay for there mistakes? They're dumbass decisions put them here. Why are loyal players have to pay more? Let it come out of there own pockets.

We are all paying already. There are choices to pay more if players are wanting to pay by plex. Why is there a need to add a 3rd currency? Its not my responsibility to fix there ****ups. That's there problem and if they can't fix this issue. Those people responsible need to be removed so someone else can do the job correctly.

I'm not going to pay more. My SUB closed and my term ends oct 11 good luck ccp with your dream.

Charging there clients for there mistakes.. Its madness I say... ugh

Ra Vhim
Black Bag Ops
Posted - 2011.06.28 15:10:00 - [396]
 

I don't think we need to worry about CCP's economy. They will be fine. Many just want to really, really believe that they only take this MT path because they otherwise face doom, not that they do it because they want to milk us. People are just grasping for the last straw in our hopes that CCP still is the lovable company we have been so fond of all these years.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.28 15:30:00 - [397]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 28/06/2011 15:30:17
Originally by: Ra Vhim
I don't think we need to worry about CCP's economy. They will be fine. Many just want to really, really believe that they only take this MT path because they otherwise face doom, not that they do it because they want to milk us. People are just grasping for the last straw in our hopes that CCP still is the lovable company we have been so fond of all these years.



Im continuing to make accounts on failheap so I can skew the vote, keep voting FOR game change items YAY!

Surveys are really accurate :)

Electra GaafCramo
Posted - 2011.06.28 15:34:00 - [398]
 

Edited by: Electra GaafCramo on 28/06/2011 15:34:24
CCP's main problem atm is the lack of transparency. It would be smart of them to change to a new level of transparency, which is more suitable to their image.

They create a believable transparent image of themselves. But when people find out that they have been sold this image on false premises, they get angry.

CCP should become more transparent. It's human to have flaws. If you hide these flaws, we get ****ed when we find them ourselves. Whenever you a get touchy issue, throw it out in the open. Don't be shy of conflicts, postponing/ignoring conflicts is seemingly not working/backfiring.

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.28 15:43:00 - [399]
 

One solution would be to release Dust on PC. This should solve their monetary problems if they manage to release it early next year at the latest, and if they can get Sony to back off from any exclusivity deal they might have made with CCP.

Making EVE more expensive will only result, ultimately, in a loss, since i'm 100% sure that they will not recoup Dust's development costs with a PS3 release only.

WoD will have to be released next year aswell, depending on results with Dust.

The only other option is to sell the Atlanta or Shanghai studios, though i doubt anyone will want to touch Dust at all at this point.



I kind of feared this might be happening. Trying to fund 2 more games on the revenue of just one, coupled with the now legendary Icelandic indecisiveness (drawing development out far too long) is a recipe for disaster, but as has been mentioned before, the hubris from EVE's "success" may have blinded CCP.

Grey Griff
Posted - 2011.06.28 15:53:00 - [400]
 

I whould donate some money for example, but only if ccp will firmly say that there in eve will be no mt for game changing items, to be sure that with eve ewerything will be ok,i think that i not only one who would do this

Garreth Vlox
Minmatar
Obsidian Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.28 15:55:00 - [401]
 

Originally by: Goauld Baal
In other words some one at CCP left the check book open and out on the table and now they want there player base to make up what there lacking HAHAHAH yeah thats not going to happen


THIS^^, now if this had been zulu's response dev blog instead of that bull****ting **** you post he put up we wouldn't have called for him to be burned at the stake, tho we probly still would have to you to get ****ed because your inability to fiscally manage a company while sad and slightly pathetic is not our problem.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.28 16:13:00 - [402]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 28/06/2011 16:13:05

Petition billing and accounting if you want your credit card details removed

I got mine removed.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.28 16:46:00 - [403]
 


Originally by: Tethys Atreides
Ahem...

COOs statement.





They refuse still to change their statemetn to the effect you cannot BUY AN ADVANTAGE. He only says you cannot buy VICTORY, but does not rule out buying an ADVANTAGE.

He also states, he belives not many people will leave over this. Still pompous. No change.


In other words, it is game changing but not game dominating Microtransactions.

Saving Face
Posted - 2011.06.28 18:09:00 - [404]
 

Edited by: Saving Face on 28/06/2011 18:08:59
Miilla, you missed the really interesting part.

Quote:

CCP has called for their democratically elected expect players from all over the world this week which will be discussed ways of how the introduction of products for sale in EVE will be presented.



They are not there to parley, they are there to help CCP with presentation.

Zozefin
Posted - 2011.06.28 19:33:00 - [405]
 

So ppl if u experience lag... its because CCP wasting 10m $ per year in the development of Dust and WoD.

If u cant make isk in 0.0 its because CCP needs to reduce the expenses for new servers by reducing the population of 0.0.

If u r one of the poor guys that his gfx can bbq hotdogs etc its because 2/3 of the devs hired by CCP ARE NOT WORKING FOR EVE THOU PAID BY EVE.

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.29 03:14:00 - [406]
 

Jesus christ, this is a bad thread. Other than the posts consisting solely of quoting people on Failheap, I'd be hard-pressed to find more than a couple comments where my first reaction wasn't some combination of derp, psyduck, and facepalm. Yes, that's right General Discussion, you're making Failheap look good. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Frodrich Adoudel
Posted - 2011.07.01 19:28:00 - [407]
 

I read one of the linked accounting chats posted on page one. It has some very good points.


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