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Qulbeg Khan
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:40:00 - [1]
 

This proposal comes in two parts, with the second highly dependent on the first.

Proposal part 1 - Vanity items should be destructible.
If you are in your pod and your pod is vaporized, then so are your sexy new jeans. You lose implants, you lose the monocle, the jeans, the boots .. all of it. If they release a gold plated Abbadon, I am sure that it will be destructible, so the same should go to other vanity items.

Reasoning: Vanity items are meant to serve two purposes, ISK sink for players with billions of ISK and nothing better to do and a cash income for CCP. If Vanity items are persistent then the available market will soon dry up. Make the item destructible and you open up the chance for people to buy an item, lose it and have to buy it again. If not, you are plugging the sink.

Just to bring up the Pixels/RL paradigm that CCP loves... I bought my wife an LV diary, a small luxury item, but still far more expensive that my wage bracket. Within 12 months, she lost it. Evil or Very Mad Also think about the guys that buy Porches, Ferrari's and Lambos and wrap them around a tree. Luxury items can be destroyed and need to be replaced in real life, so why not treat pretty pixels the same?

Proposal Part 2 - Put Vanity items on Kill Mails (Pods only)
Vanity items should be rare, so if I pod someone wearing a monocle, there will be a big fat bonus in the kill mail. Sure.. the flimsy little thing is destroyed and I can't use it (vanity items never drop only pop) but the kill mail looks pretty. At the same time .. add implants as well. Its been requested for a long time, so now is the time to make it happen.

Reasoning: Eve is a sand box and adding vanity items to kill mails will be part of the fun - I can see a future game, similar to Hulkageddon having a "1 Billion ISK prize to first kill that includes a vanity item". These are rare items and if you are silly enough to lose one then people will be sharing the link to your fail kill mail for years to come. It will be part of the game.


Techo bit:
Issue: CCP has stated that since pod death means that a toon is instantly teleported to a new clone, and that kill mails are generated a few processing cylces later, they cant tell what implants were lost as the clone that "died" no longer exists when the kill mail is generated. I am certain that the same resoning will stand for vanity items.

Solution: Similar to an Orca having an "Ore Bay", give Pods a "Vanity Bay". The Vanity Bay is not accessible nor seen by players, only by internal code routines. As soon as a pod is created, a copy of all implants and vanity items are loaded into the Vanity Bay. If the pod is destroyed, all items in the vanity bay drop just like any other cargo (I am ok with 100% destruction of these rather than 50/50 drop/destroy - the stuff is unique and fragile). If the player enters a new vessel (exits pod) then those items are either removed from the pod, or junked along with the Pod's 64 bit Item ID.

Toovhon
Posted - 2011.06.27 04:55:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Toovhon on 27/06/2011 04:55:11
You know, I just might accept non-vanity MT items, if we get to destroy them along with their owners. However I still think non-vanity items out of thin air are too destabilizing to the economy and player achievement to work at all.

Manique
Caldari
Ominous Corp

Posted - 2011.06.27 05:13:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Manique on 27/06/2011 05:14:16
Matches my own views so CCP please look into this.

Khamelean
Posted - 2011.06.27 05:29:00 - [4]
 

So they would give no tactical advantage, they would cost real money and they could be destroyed at any time? Might as well just throw your money in a fire.

Who would use them? You might get a couple of people who are super keen to show off how wealthy they are, but how long would they really keep that up?

Qulbeg Khan
Posted - 2011.06.27 07:10:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Khamelean
So they would give no tactical advantage, they would cost real money and they could be destroyed at any time? Might as well just throw your money in a fire.

Who would use them? You might get a couple of people who are super keen to show off how wealthy they are, but how long would they really keep that up?


I agree. I would not use the vanity stuff... you would not use the vanity stuff, but you can be sure that someone will. So why not have it listed on a kill mail? If its in the game, make it a part of the game.

Manique
Caldari
Ominous Corp
Posted - 2011.06.27 13:14:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Manique on 27/06/2011 13:41:44
Edited by: Manique on 27/06/2011 13:39:27
Originally by: Khamelean
So they would give no tactical advantage, they would cost real money and they could be destroyed at any time? Might as well just throw your money in a fire.

Who would use them? You might get a couple of people who are super keen to show off how wealthy they are, but how long would they really keep that up?


Everything in EVE is expensive and takes time to get the ammount of ISK needed even if you can buy it via Plex it's either lots of RL money or time. Everything in EVE gets destroyed and will get destroyed in a mater of moments. Why make it different. I'm sure that way the apparatus items can get cheaper but then people would buy more. It will make you think more to make your pod survive also it will make you think even more if you want to suicide clone to another place. It has to be risk vs. reward. That was why I started to play EVE that will keep many other playing and investing time. Alot of time and patience.



 

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