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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:15:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Darteis Elosia
In station Casino.


Gambling for Aurum? That is a can of legal worms just waiting for a lawyer to come set them free.

Jacob Kelbrand
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:16:00 - [62]
 

Corp/Alliance owned billboards or similar in 0.0?

Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar
Advent of the Blood Sun
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:16:00 - [63]
 

A remote Skill queue updater from your cellphone!

Helena Ashcroft
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:17:00 - [64]
 

I think the very idea is paradoxical if you're attempting to target isk->plex->aur transactions (the isk-rich) and thus tame the PLEX price.

-Making something widely desireable won't work, the poor will want it and they won't use isk to buy the necessary PLEX. They will use cash.
-Making something narrowly useful to an elite few (monocle isn't a good example) would be almost impossible to do. What perk does someone with a trillion isk want that someone with 500mil doesn't? I can't think of anything off the top of my head. Vanity clearly doesn't work because that targets the VAIN and not the wealthy, many of whom are not interested in vanity.

My conclusion is there's simply no way to liquidate PLEX in any meaningful way using this system without making some isk-ceiling above which you must hold Aurum instead, perhaps incurring some sort of tax if that isn't the case. Although i'm quite certain that would be easily exploited, avoided, and ineffectual in it's own right.

Namura Kautsuo
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:17:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Raz Xym
Nothing should be added. PERIOD. This is only an attempt to get people to accept this shop. Once CCP thinks people have accepted the shop they will bring in the battering ram on your ass. The items that start showing up will astound you. You will say but.... but... they said they would never do this.

They know they will be doing this. They will not comment on it. They know any comment will bite them in the ass later.

Sad sad day, do not be fooled.


Blah blah blah, im bitter and old and don't like new things. Keep those kids off my lawn! Robot love is a SIN!

Darteis Elosia
Gallente
PHOENIX 2ND C.A.G.
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:20:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Darteis Elosia
In station Casino.


Gambling for Aurum? That is a can of legal worms just waiting for a lawyer to come set them free.


You can't exchange Aurum back to real cash so whats the deal with it?

Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar
Advent of the Blood Sun
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:21:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Darteis Elosia
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Darteis Elosia
In station Casino.


Gambling for Aurum? That is a can of legal worms just waiting for a lawyer to come set them free.


You can't exchange Aurum back to real cash so whats the deal with it?


Or gambling with ISK aswell.

Cassidia Arbosa
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:22:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Darteis Elosia
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Darteis Elosia
In station Casino.


Gambling for Aurum? That is a can of legal worms just waiting for a lawyer to come set them free.


You can't exchange Aurum back to real cash so whats the deal with it?


Some kid will get his parents credit card, and then buy Aurum with it, which they allowed him to.

Little did they know, he went off gambling with it, and lost it all.

Parents talk to a lawyer. Whether they have a case or not, they sue CCP. Nobody wants a lawsuit, and lawyers are greedier than Zulu after and Atlus Shrugged bender.

Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Global Economy Experts
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:23:00 - [69]
 

Corporation store space, for things the corp specializes in selling. Sure, we have the market, but you can do different things in the store that you can't do in the market, like offer a discount for buying multiple of an item. Or offer different payment methods, such as accepting minerals instead of ISK. Lots of options here. The market is like a stock trading simulation. These stores can be like a simulation of RL stores.

Galigonge
Southern Cross Trilogy
Flying Dangerous
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:24:00 - [70]
 

What about 0.0 system renaming?

1) Get sovereignty
2) Rename systems for a fee (In Aurum or ISK)
3) The systems stay with those names until someone goes back to 1)

Donald MacRury
Gallente
LankTech
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:24:00 - [71]
 

I have a suggestion to this. Why don't they move some of the seeded npc items from the market to there and price it so that market traders would be interested in buying it to re sell on the main market.

An example would be skillbooks or Tech 1 BPOs. They currently can't be made, and I don't think they can be found in loot drops. This shouldn't give anyone an in-game advantage other than being able to make extra isk re selling on the market.

Carcosa Hali
True Slave Foundations
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:24:00 - [72]
 


The old Quafe girl hologram.. right in my CQ. =)

Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar
Advent of the Blood Sun
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:26:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Cassidia Arbosa
Originally by: Darteis Elosia
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Darteis Elosia
In station Casino.


Gambling for Aurum? That is a can of legal worms just waiting for a lawyer to come set them free.


You can't exchange Aurum back to real cash so whats the deal with it?


Some kid will get his parents credit card, and then buy Aurum with it, which they allowed him to.

Little did they know, he went off gambling with it, and lost it all.

Parents talk to a lawyer. Whether they have a case or not, they sue CCP. Nobody wants a lawsuit, and lawyers are greedier than Zulu after and Atlus Shrugged bender.


"I am or older than the minimal age from my country to gamble"

Hekira Soikutsu
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:27:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Cassidia Arbosa
Originally by: Darteis Elosia
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Darteis Elosia
In station Casino.


Gambling for Aurum? That is a can of legal worms just waiting for a lawyer to come set them free.


You can't exchange Aurum back to real cash so whats the deal with it?


Some kid will get his parents credit card, and then buy Aurum with it, which they allowed him to.

Little did they know, he went off gambling with it, and lost it all.

Parents talk to a lawyer. Whether they have a case or not, they sue CCP. Nobody wants a lawsuit, and lawyers are greedier than Zulu after and Atlus Shrugged bender.


Is that any different from flying a failfit battlerorqual into pvp? Yes, I blew up and lost my uber officer shield booster and armor repper, but mom it seemed like a good idea at the time...

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:28:00 - [75]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 27/06/2011 01:29:05

Oh, damn, how could I forget ?!

The old hangar view.



That, I'd pay several monocles' worth to get back (as an option).
Laughing

Krathos Morpheus
Legion Infernal
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:31:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Akita T
IDEA #2 - THE INCARNA-BOUND (DIGITAL) "Eve: The Second Genesis Collectible Card Game"

This one is much easier to explain.
For those of you that don't know, "Eve: The Second Genesis Collectible Card Game" is an actual trading cards game that CCP has published at some time in the past in the real world.
As far as I know, production has been discontinued thanks to relatively low interest, since you're not likely to be too close (geographically speaking) with too many other EVE players that are also CCG enthusiasts.

This is the proverbial "shooting down two birds with one stone" deal.
They already have the IP (graphics, rulesets, backgrounds, etc) and they can create a place where the concentration of interested players can reach critical mass - inside Incarna.

Simply translate the CCG into digital form (there actually is a similar RP precedent - "Mindclash") and you're golden.
Just sell the cards, booster packs or whatever it is CCGs are supposed to sell in real life, but sell them for AUR inside Incarna.

Heck, you can also implement "Mindclash" itself while you're at it (later).
Sure, it will be a truckload of work, but... why not ?

Actually that was my second post in the new features and ideas forums, just before I learned that there is were the ideas go to die. I love that idea, but one problem might be that boosters need to be sold at reasonable prices, something ccp don't get lately. I fully support the idea, though.

Velarra
Caldari
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:32:00 - [77]
 

Live, not prerecorded, interactive music performances with artist(s) who perform for isk/tips/aurum.

Artists: Our fellow players with musical talent, or guests, etc.

Cassidia Arbosa
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:41:00 - [78]
 

Like some others have said, I think the in game EVE Card Game would be awesome. Maybe something like Magic: The Gathering where people could buy card packs with randomly generated cards. Different rarities, etc.

Also, maybe digitize the EVE Board Game. I'm guessing its not a particularly hot seller in the "real" item EVE store.

Why not digitize the ship models? You could put them in your CQ along with all the other things people have said (furniture, lighting effects, et.)

Raid'En
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:44:00 - [79]
 

pretty easy.

what always works ?
mount
pet

what does that means for eve ?

* mount on eve would be shuttle ; so something with the stats of a shuttle, but a ****ing nice skin. i'll be 10 myself if price is okay.
* pet : was said before, the lore of eve is extremly rich, let us add some of these creatures on our CQ, and later on the others incarna features.
pet must have no attribute, it's only here for decoration, able to follow you and such (give him drone AI), and have nice emotes.
our minmatar CQ need to be cleaned, just buy a fedo to clean it. you'll see him moving, and while having it, your CQ wil have a way nicer skin.
amarr want to make sure no slave can escape, so they need a slaver. be sure to make him understand who is the master. any pnj would be terroritzed seing it while incarna will be here.
of course exotic dancers. and slaves would be nice.
gallente can have drone pet, caldari... well they only need money them.

for gameplay i'm for being able to only buy BPC for aurum, and having to produce the item with it and isk-linked items. it add mini professions.

another idea would be a virtual + real option on eve store.
how about buying this nice coat both on your character and on real life ? if price are prety high here, not much will rage, cause it's normal.

for space, you can think of classic things, like changing the skin of your outpost / pos.

and why not, more than paintjobs, some graphical effect on your shiny ship ?

they have redone turrets, meaning they can do more things.
i want that my lazor only fire red beam. very big red beam. and i'm a bad guy so i want a red aura on my ship
minmatar is junk, so i want my ship to be full of smoke, and with pieces of things behing left behind
i'm gallente and i'm using drones. but damn these things are so tiny... i want my drones to be giants, i want that they can be seen ! and that they look nice of course...
i'm caldari, i like missiles. how about having dozens of missiles firing and not a few one ? each missile launcher launch 10 missiles visually. gonna make some boom.

i'm a big pirate. i want that my prey to know they are finished if they see me.
when i scramble them they must ear me, they must hear my mark. add a little sound that is personalizable, that is played on some occasions. seriously eve have sound i'm not kidding.

well will be all for now

Vain Valentine
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:49:00 - [80]
 

Party Barge.

I would drop some good cash to have a Booze Cruise in space.

i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY
Gallente
sHaKeDoWn..
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:58:00 - [81]
 

Just remove aurum, CCP make as many vanity items as they can be arsed making, CCP sell vanity items through NPC sell orders, Players buy plex with real money, Players sell plex for isk, Players buy vanity items.
Tweak all isk sinks and faucets as needed for balance.
Not selling enough plex CCP? increase the percentage of the "sinks" decrease the percentage of the "faucets" GAME WIDE!!!!! or if that is to mind boggling for you just increase the NPC sell order price for the vanity items CHRIST!!!!!!!
Vanity items I would like to see, are anything you can make quick and easy, then you can put this behind you as a company.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:01:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY
Just remove aurum, CCP make as many vanity items as they can be arsed making, CCP sell vanity items through NPC sell orders, Players buy plex with real money, Players sell plex for isk, Players buy vanity items.
Tweak all isk sinks and faucets as needed for balance.
Not selling enough plex CCP? increase the percentage of the "sinks" decrease the percentage of the "faucets" GAME WIDE!!!!! or if that is to mind boggling for you just increase the NPC sell order price for the vanity items CHRIST!!!!!!!
Vanity items I would like to see, are anything you can make quick and easy, then you can put this behind you as a company.

You have completely and totally missed the point of AUR // NEX.
The point is that they are selling TOO MUCH of GTCs/PLEXes already, noticeably more than it's already being consumed on subs.
What you propose will at most make EVEN MORE of them get created and keep on stockpiling at an accelerated rate, the exact opposite of what AUR is supposed to help with.

Lirael Dyrim
Gallente
In Bacon We Trust
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:03:00 - [83]
 

Stripper pole + Exotic dancers. Make commodities more viable.

i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY
Gallente
sHaKeDoWn..
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:10:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY
Just remove aurum, CCP make as many vanity items as they can be arsed making, CCP sell vanity items through NPC sell orders, Players buy plex with real money, Players sell plex for isk, Players buy vanity items.
Tweak all isk sinks and faucets as needed for balance.
Not selling enough plex CCP? increase the percentage of the "sinks" decrease the percentage of the "faucets" GAME WIDE!!!!! or if that is to mind boggling for you just increase the NPC sell order price for the vanity items CHRIST!!!!!!!
Vanity items I would like to see, are anything you can make quick and easy, then you can put this behind you as a company.

You have completely and totally missed the point of AUR // NEX.
The point is that they are selling TOO MUCH of GTCs/PLEXes already, noticeably more than it's already being consumed on subs.
What you propose will at most make EVEN MORE of them get created and keep on stockpiling at an accelerated rate, the exact opposite of what AUR is supposed to help with.

I guess you have point lol, more monocles then, I would like to see more monocles.

Nishachara
True Enlightenment
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:16:00 - [85]
 

Those ideas about recorded holo battles and ccg sound really good imho Wink.

Also if they add a player bar or a corp meeting place that could work too.
But as we all see incarna is only one room at the moment, so those things should come up later.

Maybe it would work if another payment option for corp offices/hangars in npc stations is added.-
So, for example, you would be able to pay your office/hangar with isk or with aur.

Also one cool idea stumbled upon me just nowVery Happy.
I somehowe rememberd a game X3:Reunion, there is a system in taht game which you can own, a tycoon bankrupted and so its up on auction douring the course of a game.
You dont get much by buying a system for rediculous amount of money except you know its yours.

So why not do that in eve?
What would happen if players can name a 0.0 system of their choice ?
(if he/she keeps some previously enforced naming policies offcourse)
But that should be expensive, very expensive. I would say it should cost at least as two monocles or more.
I mean you pay the aur name system as you wish and it stays that way forever.
Or even there could be some sort of auction (like in X3 game for example, npcs are constantly bidding on the system) and player who bids the most aur wins.

Tali Ambraelle
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:19:00 - [86]
 

Ability to design our own clothes.

I Love Boobies
Amarr
All Hail Boobies
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:23:00 - [87]
 

Personally, I think it would be cool to see movies streamed over the in game screen, like a video rental service of the newest movies and so on.

Or maybe instead of adding Flash to the browser, figure out a way so it works with the screen in the CQ and allow you to watch like YouTube, play Flash games and so on. Dunno how feasible that would be since they are worried about Flash security vulnerabilities for the browser.

Maybe add a solitaire game you can play while mining away, lol.

A streaming music service, or a service that adds music to your Jukebox.

Product placement wouldn't be so bad if it meant lowering the prices for some clothes. Like a Nike hat, or shoes. They get paid by Nike for putting the stuff in game as a form of advertisement, in turn, making it able to charge less AUR for it.

Just a few thoughts I figured I would throw out there.

Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:30:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 27/06/2011 01:29:05

Oh, damn, how could I forget ?!

The old hangar view.



That, I'd pay several monocles' worth to get back (as an option).
Laughing


Now U trollin' Laughing

But seriously, some good ideas. I don't think I'd mind the whole Aurum for station business idea. That was a good one.

Although its already a controversy, the whole "cloud storage" for Aurum thing is a good set of functionality imo. Other than the fitting slots, overview settings, or indeed the entire settings for your eve clients, backed up to TQ and retrievable once you log in your account on any computer for a modest monthly Aurum sum would be a good service. Gone are the days where a patch or computer died event causes you a day of setup.

Richard Koslinsky
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:32:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Kalle Demos
Edited by: Kalle Demos on 27/06/2011 00:45:01
Edited by: Kalle Demos on 27/06/2011 00:42:08
1. Advanced Anchoring - Gives the pilot the ability to anchor more than 1 POS structure (max upto 5). Requires Anchoring 5, lasts 12 hours

2. Billboard Ad Space - Allows corps to advertise on the new (giant billboards you cant miss) - AUR depends on system - Ad lasts for 30 days

3. Office Space - Allows your rented office to be furnished (with additional NEX items) which will allow other players to enter your office

4. Additional Corporate Hangars - For a monthly AUR cost, you can get additional hangars

5. Ad space on EVE-O forums - For recruitment purposes etc, have your corp / alliance stand out from the rest

6. Real Corporate HQ - A base of OPs where you and corp members can chill - Additional Corp Hangar items can be bought for AUR (like pool tables etc)

<more to come>


Strike 1, or change that it works only in high sec, and not during war or pending for hostilities to begin. Otherwise it is too much of an advantage to someone trying to slip in a stealth POS/foothold (the whole point of only one anchor at one time is to make it such that you need a decent protection detail if you are doing it in hostile space).

Portmanteau
Gallente
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:33:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Tob Seayours
Duck mask
Top Hat
Cane
Tux
Bowtie
Strap-on


yes


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