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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:29:00 - [1]
 

You can't blame CCP for wanting to make more money than they do now.
You can only MAYBE blame them for doing it in a way that feels "wrong" to you.
So you guys hate the idea of "pay to win", or in other words, any items that could potentially give an advantage.
Even if it's NOT a big deal as long as handled carefully.
Fine. Be that way. Why not. It's afterall what we were used to from the start of this game.
If somehow miraculously, the playerbase would have spoken and CCP listened carefully...
NOW WHAT ?
CCP still needs to make those PLEX vanish, and if they also get some extra cash along the way, hooray them.

Let's say that CCP ends up "agreeing" with you that advantage-granting items and services should never be released.
So, no "+5% stats" items, no AUR cerebral boosters, no AUR for remaps, no AUR for SP reallocation, no AUR for standings corrections, and so on and so forth a big no to a lot of items or services.
In other words, none of the stuff quite a few people would be itching to buy - but would hate it if their opponents would do the same - would ever be for sale for AUR.

That leaves us with a problem. Low sales.

As a couple of people over in MD point out (Linkage1, Linkage2), at least at this point in time the NEX offers are mainly targeted at the ISK-rich people (who are supposed to want to buy PLEX and smash them into AUR - which would take at least partial care of CCP's "excess PLEX stockpiles" problem), but the real problem is, there's not much in there that an ISK-rich person would WANT to bother to get... not in any significant amounts anyway.
Yes, RL-cash-rich people will also buy stuff from the NEX, but it doesn't help CCP's target of reducing existing PLEX counts.

Sure, you can always introduce a wide variety of cheap-ass clothing and other character customization options (they're going to be doing that anyway), you could introduce different-textured vanity ships (they are supposed to redo all textures anyway, so adding a bit of variation won't be that much extra work compared to what they'll do anyway) even if I personally would much rather see "paint" items inserted in ship "paint" slots (with even the possibility of players designing their own mix-and-mach combos eventually), but there's only so much of this kind of stuff people will tolerate buying before going "eh, to hell with it".

SO WE NEED IDEAS FOR COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF ITEMS OR SERVICES TO BE SOLD FOR AUR.
NOT JUST VANITY STUFF (clothes, paintjobs), BUT STUFF THAT IS USEFUL // FUN // DESIRABLE.
YET IT CAN'T GIVE YOU A DIRECT GAMEPLAY ADVANTAGE BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL RAGE ABOUT IT.



...

I have come up with just two different sets of rough ideas, but I am curious if you guys can come up with even more than this.

I will go into more detail in the following post, explaining each is as much detail as possible, but for now, the uber-short descriptions:
* holo battle recorder
* Incarna digital EVE CCG.

...

MEANWHILE, FEEL FREE TO POST OTHER IDEAS.
No matter how outlandish.

As long as they are something you'd like to get but does NOT give you an ingame advantage and is not already on CCP's plan for the future.
Obviously.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:30:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 27/06/2011 00:53:10

IDEA #1 - THE HOLOGRAPHIC COMBAT RECORDER

What it is : a way for you, as a pilot, to record whatever it is you are witnessing for later viewing.

Basically, this battle recorder crates a copy of the most relevant bits of the server-side physical simulation (object positions, velocities, visual effect triggers - but no actual data regarding HP, damage nor anything like that) on the grid you are present on when you're recording, and it's stored server-side alongside version number (so it can be played back later even if the physical simulation changes).

Software-wise speaking, recording should be relatively easy (if multiple persons are recording in the same grid, the data is identical for everybody), and playback would only be possible on a separate physical node (you'd "switch into" this physical server node the same way you'd normally switch into an Incarna node - so it should not affect normal gameplay performance).

On the AUR side of things, you would have TWO big opportunities.
First, you sell the "battle recorder" device itself for a pretty hefty AUR sum.
THEN, you sell blank "holocubes" for a nominal AUR price.

Holocubes would be destructible consumables - each of them could "store" up to a certain limited amount of "footage", and once recorded, they remain recorded with that data forever, no "taping over".
A ship would actually have to physically move the recorded footage to a different location, and everybody who wishes to view the recording will either have to receive it on loan, or have a copy of it made ("consuming" another blank cube in the process).

It's fun, it's useful, doesn't give any actual direct gameplay advantage, serves both huge one-lump purchases and tiny recurring ones.
It's what I like to call a win-win-win situation.




IDEA #2 - THE INCARNA-BOUND (DIGITAL) "Eve: The Second Genesis Collectible Card Game"

This one is much easier to explain.
For those of you that don't know, "Eve: The Second Genesis Collectible Card Game" is an actual trading cards game that CCP has published at some time in the past in the real world.
As far as I know, production has been discontinued thanks to relatively low interest, since you're not likely to be too close (geographically speaking) with too many other EVE players that are also CCG enthusiasts.

This is the proverbial "shooting down two birds with one stone" deal.
They already have the IP (graphics, rulesets, backgrounds, etc) and they can create a place where the concentration of interested players can reach critical mass - inside Incarna.

Simply translate the CCG into digital form (there actually is a similar RP precedent - "Mindclash") and you're golden.
Just sell the cards, booster packs or whatever it is CCGs are supposed to sell in real life, but sell them for AUR inside Incarna.

Heck, you can also implement "Mindclash" itself while you're at it (later).
Sure, it will be a truckload of work, but... why not ?

Strrog
Caldari
Zero Excavations
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:30:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Strrog on 27/06/2011 00:32:35
First and did they bribed you already ? lol

On a serious note they simply could have risen the sub fee say 20-25%, simple, straight forward, still free expansions.. I would simply do that.

Hot Brunette
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:31:00 - [4]
 

Faster response from CCP

PsyBlade
Caldari
Havoc Violence and Chaos
Merciless.
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:31:00 - [5]
 

here is one...

a huge flag saying "**** off with MT... (and send CCP Zulu to a Customer Response training course!)"

to evil? Shocked

Tob Seayours
Minmatar
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:33:00 - [6]
 

Duck mask
Top Hat
Cane
Tux
Bowtie
Strap-on

Strrog
Caldari
Zero Excavations
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:33:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Hot Brunette
Faster response from CCP


LMAO had to read it twice to get it :P

Hot Brunette
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:34:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Strrog
Edited by: Strrog on 27/06/2011 00:32:35
First and did they bribed you already ? lol

On a serious note they simply could have risen the sub fee say 20-25%, simple, straight forward, still free expansions.. I would simply do that.


Players actually would be much more happy with increased sub fees than ****ing MT

Usuotas
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:34:00 - [9]
 

Caving already?...

Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar
Advent of the Blood Sun
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:34:00 - [10]
 

linkage

Vague idea about giving possible access to every professions to new items generated the same way now, but only for the payers.

Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:34:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Kalle Demos on 27/06/2011 00:45:01
Edited by: Kalle Demos on 27/06/2011 00:42:08
1. Advanced Anchoring - Gives the pilot the ability to anchor more than 1 POS structure (max upto 5). Requires Anchoring 5, lasts 12 hours

2. Billboard Ad Space - Allows corps to advertise on the new (giant billboards you cant miss) - AUR depends on system - Ad lasts for 30 days

3. Office Space - Allows your rented office to be furnished (with additional NEX items) which will allow other players to enter your office

4. Additional Corporate Hangars - For a monthly AUR cost, you can get additional hangars

5. Ad space on EVE-O forums - For recruitment purposes etc, have your corp / alliance stand out from the rest

6. Real Corporate HQ - A base of OPs where you and corp members can chill - Additional Corp Hangar items can be bought for AUR (like pool tables etc)

<more to come>

Hekira Soikutsu
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:35:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Hekira Soikutsu on 27/06/2011 00:39:50
I look like ****. I want plastic surgery.

Also remaps.

BUT NOOOOOO

Modules for those will enforce an artificial price floor for their substitutes.

And no SP because I will not be able to control myself and I will have 5 max skilled Nyx pilots camping lowsec poses. Really, I'd like it but I can see where it can potentially go wrong.

PS: Blowup doll replicas of my characters will be nice too (include international delivery too please, CCP). I'd like one of you too Akita. <3!

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:35:00 - [13]
 

This is a really good idea for a thread, cheers Akita T.

Personally, I'd pay several freakin' billion ISK on PLEX to get my hands on a ratty red sofa from clear skies. Hell, you could probably price that thing at ten monocles worth and I'd buy the **** out of it.

Cassidia Arbosa
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:36:00 - [14]
 

Serious response:

A BPC that allows you to create a paint scheme for a particular ship. You could then sell whatever run the BPC was for of these paint schemes for ISK, at whatever price you choose, inside your store.

Vanity:Yes. Pay-to-win:No.



Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:37:00 - [15]
 

Seems obvious but...

Design a little ingame applet that gives you a selections of animated backgrounds and graphics, text (including your corporation and alliance name), and lets you create a script with them for a 10 second ad to be played on CQ screens, promenade screens, and in game billboards. Charge $1 a day for them to be broadcast in the region, $5 a day for them to be broadcast randomly universe-wide.

Strrog
Caldari
Zero Excavations
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:37:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Strrog on 27/06/2011 00:37:53
Originally by: Cassidia Arbosa
Serious response:

A BPC that allows you to create a paint scheme for a particular ship. You could then sell whatever run the BPC was for of these paint schemes for ISK, at whatever price you choose, inside your store.

Vanity:Yes. Pay-to-win:No.





Hmm ya pretty cool, black and red mega Twisted Evil

Ghoest
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:37:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Ghoest on 27/06/2011 00:39:36
Clothing
Jewelry
Cybernetic limbs.

Paint Jobs
Alternate skins for ships.
Alternate skins for POS

Access to sub games you can play inside stations(poker chess really anything as long it has no relation to the spaceship world.)



Anything that is "useful" will by definition give a competitive advantage in the spacship world.



Faith Leon
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:38:00 - [18]
 

Eve sponsored Texas Hold-Em AUR games.
Other gambling ideas maybe.

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:38:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Hot Brunette
Originally by: Strrog
Edited by: Strrog on 27/06/2011 00:32:35
First and did they bribed you already ? lol

On a serious note they simply could have risen the sub fee say 20-25%, simple, straight forward, still free expansions.. I would simply do that.


Players actually would be much more happy with increased sub fees than ****ing MT

I'd go with this. The subscription has a lot of room to grow.

Strrog
Caldari
Zero Excavations
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:39:00 - [20]
 

Actually my wet dream would be some pirated jail-bait or something along those lines that I could keep in my CQ :P

Embarassed

PsyBlade
Caldari
Havoc Violence and Chaos
Merciless.
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:40:00 - [21]
 

T-shirts that you can customize.

example:

Free Helicity Boson
Free Lian
Free <insert name>

to soon? Twisted Evil

MC187
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:41:00 - [22]
 

folks are forgetting. every custom skin increases server load and the size of your install file.

Ded Moroz
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:41:00 - [23]
 

sex change surgery.

I've always wanted to be a space tranny.

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:41:00 - [24]
 

API Killmails for AUR.

Now they can pwn you in PVP w/o ever needing to risk anything.

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:41:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Nyphur on 27/06/2011 00:42:08
Oh oh oh, here's a frigging good one. Sell wall-posters of various ships and such for reasonably small prices. Then sell a custom service that lets you turn a screenshot into a poster and charge a ridiculous amount for it. Even if this has to be done manually by a developer (like alliance logos), it would more than pay for the time it takes to set that up if priced at monocle-level prices.

This is how premium products work. You have an entry level product at reasonable prices, then a premium version that costs a ****-ton. You don't have all entry level products with all premium prices and then say it's OK because japanese designer jeans cost more than a month or two's rent
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Seems obvious but...

Design a little ingame applet that gives you a selections of animated backgrounds and graphics, text (including your corporation and alliance name), and lets you create a script with them for a 10 second ad to be played on CQ screens, promenade screens, and in game billboards. Charge $1 a day for them to be broadcast in the region, $5 a day for them to be broadcast randomly universe-wide.

In-game advertising on the CQ screen and billboards. ****ing genius! I'd pay for that.

Strrog
Caldari
Zero Excavations
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:41:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: PsyBlade
T-shirts that you can customize.

example:

Free Helicity Boson
Free Lian
Free <insert name>

to soon? Twisted Evil



LMAO CCP would agree I think lol

4IN1
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:42:00 - [27]
 

Exotic dancer in QC FTW!!!

Hekira Soikutsu
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:42:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Ded Moroz
sex change surgery.

I've always wanted to be a space tranny.


Ninja space tranny monocle wearing pirate YARRRR!!

Vesok Toch
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:42:00 - [29]
 

SP to meet my future self faster.

Also a "I Love Soundwave" T Very Happy

Typecast
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:44:00 - [30]
 

New shuttles that are the same as the existing ones? New skins of ships (so all Mallers for example have the new skin from your view point). Cosmetic changes that don't affect game play but could make ones experience playing the spaceship part of the game more enjoyable. I personally don't play zoomed in so I just see brackets and icons.

Maybe the ability to talk to mission agents remotely? I know this will impact game play but I'm struggling to find things that are fun and have some sort of value to the player, yet doesn't affect game play.

A longer skill queue? I've seen quite a few threads asking why it isn't longer so some people out there would be interested in it.


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