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Ford Mersombre
Posted - 2011.06.26 23:16:00 - [1]
 

I keep hearing that Incarna is blowing up ATI video cards and AMD processors. I've got one of the latest i7 MBP's and kind of nervous about playing longer than updating my skill queue since it has an ATI video card and already gets supper hot when playing.

Anyone know one way or the other if it's safe?

Lenore Leelu
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:24:00 - [2]
 

smcfancontrol.
get it.
set up a profile for eve.
set fans to full.
enjoy eve without excessive heat.

(if you bootcamp, try macfan)

Ford Mersombre
Posted - 2011.06.27 04:58:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Lenore Leelu
smcfancontrol.
get it.
set up a profile for eve.
set fans to full.
enjoy eve without excessive heat.

(if you bootcamp, try macfan)


Saw someone recommend that earlier and installed it. Haven't had a chance to play EVE while using it though ... Setting the fans to run at 6700 RPM or whatever max speed is, is what's recommended?

Lederstrumpf
Posted - 2011.06.27 06:38:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 27/06/2011 06:38:14
Originally by: Ford Mersombre
Setting the fans to run at 6700 RPM or whatever max speed is, is what's recommended?


It's recommended to run hardware within the chip manufacture's specifications.

Obviously Apple chose silence/"style" over nonsilent fans/reliability.

Toy computers, so to say.

Luther DelMordaine
Posted - 2011.06.27 11:33:00 - [5]
 

I use that fan control and it works a treat, but my god its loud!!!!!!

Jez Amatin
Posted - 2011.06.27 16:21:00 - [6]
 

i'm monitoring temp with dashboard widget and all seems within safe limits, and i'm not using any fan control.


Merasa Tro
Posted - 2011.06.27 22:06:00 - [7]
 

I've used SMC on Core 2 iMac, MacBook, and i7 iMac.. Go for it!

But I dont set the fan speeds to full. I just bump them up by a few hundred RPM. And keep an eye on the temps.

So its not that much noisier than normal but definatly runs cooler.

SMC will allow the mac to tell the fans to run faster if required it just boost the low speed.

Josefine Etrange
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.27 22:36:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Merasa Tro
I've used SMC on Core 2 iMac, MacBook, and i7 iMac.. Go for it!

But I dont set the fan speeds to full. I just bump them up by a few hundred RPM. And keep an eye on the temps.

So its not that much noisier than normal but definatly runs cooler.

SMC will allow the mac to tell the fans to run faster if required it just boost the low speed.



Should this not be done anyway by apple software? Why on earth an apple user should ever monitor pc temps to adjust RPM of his fans? Thats what linux computers are for (scnr)! More seriously if you fan controls do not work properly than sent your hardware back and get it repaired. And yes if your system ever gets hot, those fans in a mac can get louder than hell.

Merasa Tro
Posted - 2011.06.28 08:32:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Josefine EtrangeShould this not be done anyway by apple software? Why on earth an apple user should ever monitor pc temps to adjust RPM of his fans? Thats what linux computers are for (scnr)! More seriously if you fan controls do not work properly than sent your hardware back and get it repaired. And yes if your system ever gets hot, those fans in a mac can get louder than hell.[/quote


Maybe didn't explain myself very well. An imac will when required increase fan speed. But it seems a bit 'digital'. Its almost dead silent (by design) until it decides its getting too hot, at which point in bangs the fans in at a HIGH speed. Cools it down, and knocks back the fan speed, then repeat as it heats and cools. Working as designed, but I dont know about you... but I'd rather not put something expensive through heat and cool cycles like that.

So, with the fans constantly at a few hundred RPM higher it stays 'warm' but not HOT then cool.

Lederstrumpf
Posted - 2011.06.28 12:01:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Josefine Etrange
Should this not be done anyway by apple software? Why on earth an apple user should ever monitor pc temps to adjust RPM of his fans?


It's by Apple "design":

Like the one button mouse...

or the keyboard without "~" nor "|" nor "\" keycap labels ...

Dedication to "excellence" so to say.

Josefine Etrange
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.28 12:30:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Josefine Etrange on 28/06/2011 12:33:06
Originally by: Merasa Tro
Working as designed, but I dont know about you... but I'd rather not put something expensive through heat and cool cycles like that.



Hey, you are stealing from apple that way, it must be designed this way to reduce life span of the hardware so you have to buy earlier new hardware ... reminds me of the first generation ipod batteries. scnr.
*scratch head*
Still, my iMac seems to be more "analog" on its fan controls and increases rpm of the fan in more steps if needed, *shrugs* but it sounds just like something apple would do.

Originally by: Lederstrumpf
Originally by: Josefine Etrange
Should this not be done anyway by apple software? Why on earth an apple user should ever monitor pc temps to adjust RPM of his fans?


It's by Apple "design":

Like the one button mouse...

or the keyboard without "~" nor "|" nor "\" keycap labels ...

Dedication to "excellence" so to say.



You know, it may be missing the labels, but it offers way more signs without using asci-code. ;)
Real man use anyway this:
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Alpine 69
Rubbish Superheroes
Posted - 2011.06.28 13:07:00 - [12]
 

When playing eve on one account I'm getting 72 degrees celcius on my CPU. With fan set to max in fancontrol, this drops to about 67 degrees usually but I still think it's too hot. Is there any way to cool this down any further without the use of ice-packs on my macbook pro?

(Also playing at pretty must lowest graphics settings. CPU = dualcore 2,53Ghz and GPU is Nvidia 9400M)

Fred Eto
Posted - 2011.06.28 15:12:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Alpine 69
When playing eve on one account I'm getting 72 degrees celcius on my CPU. With fan set to max in fancontrol, this drops to about 67 degrees usually but I still think it's too hot. Is there any way to cool this down any further without the use of ice-packs on my macbook pro?

(Also playing at pretty must lowest graphics settings. CPU = dualcore 2,53Ghz and GPU is Nvidia 9400M)


Buy a laptop cooler, I am about to order one for my macbook pro, as I want to run multi clients (yes running 1 client takes 30% CPU which means I should be able to run several, but it gets really really hot then =) )

I'll show you which I bought when I order it =)

/Fred

Malachor Jankor
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.06.29 00:57:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Lederstrumpf
Originally by: Josefine Etrange
Should this not be done anyway by apple software? Why on earth an apple user should ever monitor pc temps to adjust RPM of his fans?


It's by Apple "design":

Like the one button mouse...

or the keyboard without "~" nor "|" nor "\" keycap labels ...

Dedication to "excellence" so to say.



How is 1998 treating you?

Real Poison
Minmatar
Stormlord Battleforce
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.07.01 07:28:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Lederstrumpf

It's by Apple "design":

Like the one button mouse...

or the keyboard without "~" nor "|" nor "\" keycap labels ...

Dedication to "excellence" so to say.


everything is there, it's just...

that's how we weed out the stupid

Clementine A
Posted - 2011.07.01 09:55:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Lederstrumpf
Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 27/06/2011 06:38:14
Originally by: Ford Mersombre
Setting the fans to run at 6700 RPM or whatever max speed is, is what's recommended?


It's recommended to run hardware within the chip manufacture's specifications.




Hardware temperature always stay within the manufacturer's specs, with or without smcfancontrol, at least on my mbp. The smc monitors the hw temp perfectly & accelerate fans enough to keep the chips below Tmax.
Intel CPUs are smart enough to slow down when overheating. I'm not sure for GPUs, though.

Don't turrn your fans at max speed, or get prepared to service them in a few month. Set them to the minimum to avoid peaks. For me, 3000rmp works well.
Play windowed rather than fullscreen. Here's a trick to maximize the window size (check "Setting up a custom resolution") : http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Dual-Boxing_on_a_Mac

Be nice with your fans.


 

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