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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
Posted - 2011.06.26 22:52:00 - [1]
 

I how my English i not very good, but i just had to get this of my chest...

I joined the eve experience a little over one year ago, and right from the start i was very impressed with the way CCP was involved in the eve community. When i first read about the CSM, i thought that it was pretty awesome that CCP gave the player base the freedom to pick a group of players who could represent the community's opinion on development of eve.

As the election of the latest CSM came near i started reading more about it on the eve-o forums, and i found there was a lot of negativity towards the CSM. A lot of the critique had to do with only representative from major alliances had a chance of getting enough votes to getting a spot in the CSM. Another big issue was that the CSM was looked upon as mostly a PR stunt, and that they had no real power to change anything. I didn't pay to much attention to the negative comments, and as many others looked through the list of players i could vote for, read their points of view and cast my vote. The person i voted for didn't make it into the CSM.

Not to long after the election was over, the CSM gave a talk about the CSM, then new members and what the CSM could do for the eve player base. After listening the the speech i felt like what had been said on the forums prior to the election was true, the CSM was mainly composed of 0.0 players and all the current major problems according to them had to do with life in 0.0. At that point i didn't feel like the CSM had any intention to improve on the elements of eve which i love, and i basically lost all interest in the CSM and that they where doing.

Then the incarna release happened, and everyone was looking to CCP and the CSM for answers. CCP didn't saying anything and the CSM said CCP didn't tell them anything, and basically just tried to came down the situation. CCP decided not to use the advice given be the CSM, prior the release of CCP zulu's first devblog, and as the CEO email was released it seemed like CCP had been keeping information hidden from the CSM in regards to the MT strategy.

Then CCP decides to release a new dev blog stating that the want to improve on the CCP / player relationship, and they want to do meeting with CSM and working solving the MT situation. And the CSM seems all happy and ready to help, like everything is business as usual.


Seriously?... This smells like the CMS is so scared to loose the free holidays and what minor influence they have by CCP, that when CCP says jump! they say how high? How can the players see the CSM as anything else them a PR stunt, the CSM looks like puppets CCP can bring out now they need some "one on one" time with the player base.

It's funny how player gets banned from the game for posting leaked information on the forums and expressing their opinion, while the CSM sites passively and does noting only to spring into action when CCP offers a meeting.

The next time the CSN defends it self by saying "CCP didn't tell us anything" we know it's because you lack the balls and motivation to ask the right questions, i hope you enjoy the holidays on Iceland.

Pirokobo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:58:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Pirokobo on 27/06/2011 01:00:57
The CSM was not told about any of this, which is why they're able to be vocal about it. If they had signed NDAs about these features they wouldn't even be able to say they weren't told.

Arias Dren
Posted - 2011.06.27 01:54:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Pirokobo
Edited by: Pirokobo on 27/06/2011 01:00:57
The CSM was not told about any of this, which is why they're able to be vocal about it. If they had signed NDAs about these features they wouldn't even be able to say they weren't told.




Exactly, and they wouldn't of informed the CSM beforehand, if the topic wasn't up for discussion with the playerbase. Ironic then... that Zulu states that the CSM is being drafted on short notice, at this extremely late-stage (probably, to simply be 'told' what is going to happen from now on). It simply gives credence to the belief that the planned 2-day CSM trip is merely CCP's latest move to publicly legitimize MT as an EVE-acceptable concept, altogether.

Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:45:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Arias Dren
Originally by: Pirokobo
Edited by: Pirokobo on 27/06/2011 01:00:57
The CSM was not told about any of this, which is why they're able to be vocal about it. If they had signed NDAs about these features they wouldn't even be able to say they weren't told.




Exactly, and they wouldn't of informed the CSM beforehand, if the topic wasn't up for discussion with the playerbase. Ironic then... that Zulu states that the CSM is being drafted on short notice, at this extremely late-stage (probably, to simply be 'told' what is going to happen from now on). It simply gives credence to the belief that the planned 2-day CSM trip is merely CCP's latest move to publicly legitimize MT as an EVE-acceptable concept, altogether.


I believe the trip is just designed to cool the population down a bit, give CCP the ability to say they did something (I know. Funny right?) and for them to cave a bit on pricing for Tribble Token Items. All of this to try and lower the volumn from us rabble rousers! It has even sunk to a new low.... Tons of threads are appearing praising MT and the FAIL that is Incarna. Look in the threads... These folks go silent as soon as they are challenged... I can only think of a few things that would cause this:

1--trolls----- sorry, all the usual suspects are screaming about MT and Incarna
2--Dev Alts---- It has been done before....
3--Paid forum flunkies---- happens all the time.. Companies hire PR firms to trash competitors or hype their own products...
4-- Kool-Aid drinkers---- even these guys no better then to jump into this crap-storm.....


 

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