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Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:33:00 - [1]
 

[5:29:36 PM] Two Step: that isn't gonna help
[5:29:43 PM] Two Step: and can you please answer my question?
[5:29:51 PM] Two Step: 1) Is CCP planning on selling non-vanity MT
[5:30:53 PM] CCP Zulu: CCP plans on evolving its offering of virtual goods based on player demand

Source is CSM Skype conversation

Discuss.....

Darveses
Fantastulousification Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:35:00 - [2]
 

Surprise!

oh, wait

Madjak Burton
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:35:00 - [3]
 

unless the players are demanding P2W your thread title is erroneous.

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:35:00 - [4]
 

Link to the full text log if it exists?

Joxxy
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:35:00 - [5]
 

And its hitting the fan in... Oh wait we allready knew that. Thats why Failmar and CCP Failwave arent posting anything.

Grog Barrel
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:37:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Madjak Burton
unless the players are demanding P2W your thread title is erroneous.


unless you can't see it coming, your brain is erroneous.

Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:38:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Madjak Burton
unless the players are demanding P2W your thread title is erroneous.


The players (and CSM) demanded no MT of any size, shape or sort either, and look where we are....

Theocrates
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:40:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Theocrates on 25/06/2011 20:41:09
So your BS argument is that CCP is going to sell MT items because they will offer stuff in the store the player base wants? This is confirmation that the Nex is going to start selling ships and guns? How about Hello Kitty Insta-win one shot DD's that fire sparkly rainbows.

If a majority of the playerbase wants titans in the Nex, CCP's shareholders have a legit complaint if CCP doesn't offer something to address the desire since CCP will have neglected the shareholders best interests at that point. You can stay and hope the rest of the players feel like you do and don't request titans in the Nex, or you can leave now.

Pytria Le'Danness
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:41:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Madjak Burton
unless the players are demanding P2W your thread title is erroneous.


So a rich guy grabbing 20K, RMTing it for ISK, getting banned and immediately putting another 20k into PLEX and thus ISK to conquer a large part of 0.0 is beyond imagination, right?

Arkahil Solstice
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:43:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Arkahil Solstice on 25/06/2011 20:43:32
If they want money, they should first look those that are doing money on their back.
We all knows about goldsellers , that are often exploiting the buddy/trial system, that are sometimes(often) using bots to mine and that are doing Real money by selling isk...

Here's your chance sell Isk through MT at a better price, your could free some bandwidth this way ....

Theocrates
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:43:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Pytria Le'Danness
Originally by: Madjak Burton
unless the players are demanding P2W your thread title is erroneous.


So a rich guy grabbing 20K, RMTing it for ISK, getting banned and immediately putting another 20k into PLEX and thus ISK to conquer a large part of 0.0 is beyond imagination, right?


Or it happens now and has been happening all along and the entire protest is emo myspace drama for no good reason?

It's simple, play until the MT offerings take the fun away or leave now.

Anon Forumalt6858
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:44:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Theocrates
Edited by: Theocrates on 25/06/2011 20:41:09
So your BS argument is that CCP is going to sell MT items because they will offer stuff in the store the player base wants? This is confirmation that the Nex is going to start selling ships and guns? How about Hello Kitty Insta-win one shot DD's that fire sparkly rainbows.

If a majority of the playerbase wants titans in the Nex, CCP's shareholders have a legit complaint if CCP doesn't offer something to address the desire since CCP will have neglected the shareholders best interests at that point. You can stay and hope the rest of the players feel like you do and don't request titans in the Nex, or you can leave now.


I think that you misunderstand. We're not protesting this our of jealousy or anything silly like that. We're trying to stop them from a mistake that they're too greedy to realize that they're making. The business world has proven time and time again that greedy shareholders don't know what's best for their investments(see the world banking crisis). We're trying to stop them from following the footprints left by Star Wars Galaxies that is closing later this year after making this exact critical mistake.

This is happening because we love Eve and we want it to stay. This is not meant to be destructive, but constructive. We have seen that we have to be the salvation of this game that we've vested in so greatly over the years and love so much. We are trying to save CCP from themselves. Join us.

Tejal Charu
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:46:00 - [13]
 

A long long time ago, I can still remember, how that game used to make me smile.

And I knew if I had my chance, that I could make those capsuleers die, and maybe they'd be crying for a while.

But July made me shiver, with every blog that CCP delivered. Bad news on the doorstep, I couldn't subscribe one more month.

I can't remember if I cried, when I read about the CCP lies, but something touched me deep inside, the day EVE died.

So, bye-bye, Miss EVE Online, drove my ship to the station but my computer was fried,
and them good old carebears were drinkin' quafe and quafe zero, singin' this'll be the day that it dies.

This'll be the day that I die.

Grog Barrel
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:49:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Grog Barrel on 25/06/2011 20:52:02
Edited by: Grog Barrel on 25/06/2011 20:51:14
Edited by: Grog Barrel on 25/06/2011 20:50:37
Originally by: Theocrates
Edited by: Theocrates on 25/06/2011 20:41:09
So your BS argument is that CCP is going to sell MT items because they will offer stuff in the store the player base wants? This is confirmation that the Nex is going to start selling ships and guns? How about Hello Kitty Insta-win one shot DD's that fire sparkly rainbows.

If a majority of the playerbase wants titans in the Nex, CCP's shareholders have a legit complaint if CCP doesn't offer something to address the desire since CCP will have neglected the shareholders best interests at that point. You can stay and hope the rest of the players feel like you do and don't request titans in the Nex, or you can leave now.


there you go. Not to mention that, this majority is the same, that helped to build eve over the years, just to find out that the company is only behind their money, to finally get their other two side projects done. When you hide your truly company philosophy to your customers, to achieve something you KNOW THE MAJORITY would be against, would you really expect, that these used customers DO NOT rage?


Haruki Tekitsu
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:59:00 - [15]
 

a freind of mine who knows a friend of someone in CCP said. eve will shut down tomorrow.

Ohhhh please enough of these hearsay fake posts. Im bored of this now IM gonna play the game

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:05:00 - [16]
 

I wonder .. is it possible that includes or even means that more items will be added to NeX store?
I wonder .. have we heard that said somewhere before?

Naah, obviously they designed the entire thing to just have the eight items and never, ever expand on it ..

Observer: The sky is blue.
Emo-rager: OMGOMGOMG. The sky has declared its opposition to fascist-socialism or it would surely be black and red!!!!

Reading Comprehension 101.

Holy One
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:07:00 - [17]
 

MACRO transactions I don't care about. Rich dudes got to be rich. Its when 'good' ammo costs $2. Or a named LSE can be bought for $3. A better sebo for $1.50 etc. That's the 'micro' transaction nightmare.

Reilly Duvolle
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:16:00 - [18]
 

Tbh, this is very simple. I think everybody - including CCP - pretty much sees this thing as a disaster. Lets assume for a moment that CCP has no plans for P2W. Then it would make NO sense whatsoever to refuse to confirm it.
After all, If they had just confirmed their stance from December 2010, none of this would have happend and they would not be down 3000 accounts. But NO, they absolutely refuse to confirm that they have no such plans. So yeah, make your own conclusions.

Kali Doom
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:21:00 - [19]
 

The people who think non-vanity MT items will never be in Eve...

They are most likely the same people that insisted the Fearless newsletter was fake.

Doc Fury
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:22:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Kali Doom
The people who think non-vanity MT items will never be in Eve...

They are most likely the same people that insisted the Fearless newsletter was fake.


Came here to say exactly this.


Tane Enat
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:27:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Reilly Duvolle
Tbh, this is very simple. I think everybody - including CCP - pretty much sees this thing as a disaster. Lets assume for a moment that CCP has no plans for P2W. Then it would make NO sense whatsoever to refuse to confirm it.
After all, If they had just confirmed their stance from December 2010, none of this would have happend and they would not be down 3000 accounts. But NO, they absolutely refuse to confirm that they have no such plans. So yeah, make your own conclusions.


I agree. At this point we all know that they'll introduce more than vanity items in their NEX, the problem is we don't know how bad may it go. They should be clear and talk about their plans.

Rhivre
Caldari
TarNec
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:30:00 - [22]
 

I am sorry, where in that does it say "We will introduce pay to win"

Thats a non answer that is open to interpretation, fairly standard corporate speak

Randal Eirikr
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:33:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Rhivre
I am sorry, where in that does it say "We will introduce pay to win"

Thats a non answer that is open to interpretation, fairly standard corporate speak


Then why not just say they aren't and well move on? Oh wait, probably because they are.

Martyr 01
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:44:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Theocrates
How about Hello Kitty Insta-win one shot DD's that fire sparkly rainbows.


Tbh I think custom sparkly rainbow DD's would be one of the few things that might get me to embrace aurum Embarassed


 

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