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MaiLina KaTar
Posted - 2011.06.25 13:29:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 25/06/2011 13:31:14
Hi,

it's really simple. What CCP have done lately, pretty much, is **** in your faces. I mean just look at the things they've done, look at Incarna. If you can sit there with a straight face and pretend that this CSM matters, or makes a difference, then just look at what happened during the last few days and face reality.

What I suggest you do is resign and shut down the CSM, collectively. Do this to send a message to both CCP and the community as a whole. Do it to maintain integrity and responsibility. You make not like this, but it is the only sensible option right now. You can either stand there and be ****ed on by CCP in front of the community R.Kelly style, or you can man up and do what's necessary. Represent the community the way you're supposed to.

Peace, out.

amarri victari
Posted - 2011.06.25 13:32:00 - [2]
 

must agree

its obviously a fruitless and pointless excercise - the major cahnges are not even discussed with you.

in light of the recent material that shows the company disdane for the custoerms, you really have no choice (read purpose if it helps)

Sujanra Acoma
Minmatar
Shadow Kitty Legion
Rura-Penthe
Posted - 2011.06.25 13:36:00 - [3]
 

I don't believe that's ever accomplished anything.

Besides, I think it's a bit premature to SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING.

The leaked stuff is worrisome, but right now there's nothing for sale for AUR but overpriced clothes. Let's wait until something bad actually happens to go all Chicken Little.

amarri victari
Posted - 2011.06.25 13:40:00 - [4]
 

seems to me like you are focused on one minor detail here.

what about BAD like a complete lack of customer service towards paying customers ?

Mattio11
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.25 13:48:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Mattio11 on 25/06/2011 14:21:43
The captains quarters makes it difficult for people to run EVE on their computer, or to run multiple clients at one time - did you check to see if there was an option to turn it off?

Can't spin your ship in station anymore? CCP has said that they will be implementing a way to do this again.

The new micro-transactions allow people to buy little fashion accessories for their avatar.. "omg, I'm so jealous of people who have monocles right now!" ...no one is forcing you to buy them

The leaked newsletter: Things we've heard in regards to this are of concern, but does anyone actually have a link to this? Can we prove that such a newsletter or email even exists? **edit** ok i found it. It does exist. Some people tell me it's fake but I looks pretty convincing... either way.. before or after reading it you should also read the recent dev blog CCP Zulu Blog - 2011.06.24

+9 implants? Noble ammunition? ....speculation, rumor ...again there is no proof.


So until there is proof. Or until ccp does these horrible, horrible things... please stop crying and making all of these stupid threads...


All this crying/complaining/*****ing/raging and threatening to close your accounts? seriously? wtf? grow up.


**edit** i'm going to lol if someone actually has the audacity to be so stupid and reply saying that there isn't an option to turn captain's quarters off.

MaiLina KaTar
Posted - 2011.06.25 13:51:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 25/06/2011 13:55:50
Originally by: Sujanra Acoma
I don't believe that's ever accomplished anything.

Besides, I think it's a bit premature to SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING.

The leaked stuff is worrisome, but right now there's nothing for sale for AUR but overpriced clothes. Let's wait until something bad actually happens to go all Chicken Little.

It's not really about NeX.

The last days have clearly shown some of the intentions and mindsets that are present within CCP, in leading positions. It is this mindset that has spawned the protest. Nex is but a poster child for the anger felt by the community in light of CCP openly giving a **** about the concerns and critique.
Incarna is a half-arsed excuse for what should've been the blockbuster expansion for eve online. It is unfinished, unpolished, lacking content and to top it all off delivers the icing on the fail-cake in form of NeX/Aurum.

Now, with the CEO of this company being very clear on what his attitude is towards the playerbase in general, do you think there's any grounds for a CSM to stand and act on? I don't.

von Diel
Gallente
The Tuskers
Posted - 2011.06.25 14:50:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Mattio11
Edited by: Mattio11 on 25/06/2011 14:21:43
The captains quarters makes it difficult for people to run EVE on their computer, or to run multiple clients at one time - did you check to see if there was an option to turn it off?

Can't spin your ship in station anymore? CCP has said that they will be implementing a way to do this again.

The new micro-transactions allow people to buy little fashion accessories for their avatar.. "omg, I'm so jealous of people who have monocles right now!" ...no one is forcing you to buy them

The leaked newsletter: Things we've heard in regards to this are of concern, but does anyone actually have a link to this? Can we prove that such a newsletter or email even exists? **edit** ok i found it. It does exist. Some people tell me it's fake but I looks pretty convincing... either way.. before or after reading it you should also read the recent dev blog CCP Zulu Blog - 2011.06.24

+9 implants? Noble ammunition? ....speculation, rumor ...again there is no proof.


So until there is proof. Or until ccp does these horrible, horrible things... please stop crying and making all of these stupid threads...


All this crying/complaining/*****ing/raging and threatening to close your accounts? seriously? wtf? grow up.


**edit** i'm going to lol if someone actually has the audacity to be so stupid and reply saying that there isn't an option to turn captain's quarters off.



Since you're such a big fan of dev blogs, try reading Zulu's previous one found here: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=922

"This is a temporary solution". Yes, we can turn it off FOR NOW. The newsletter was confirmed as real by CCP Pann, and yes it is only opinions and thoughts but CCP outright promised that they wouldn't introduce these. Now, senior Devs are having thoughts about it, and no one has outright stated either way (In spite of the question being asked over and over again in big yellow letters).

Don't get me started on Zulu's disgrace of a dev blog.

The question here really is: Do you go to the toilet before, or after you **** your pants?

Anyhoo, back on topic: csm has been ignored and CCP seems to be going on their path whatever the feedback is. By resigning you send the message that you're not happy with the situation and hopefully bring more attention to this.

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2011.06.25 14:59:00 - [8]
 

I am guessing you don't have children or ever had to care for one of the little monsters for any appreciable amount of time?

When a child throws a tantrum over X thing, the only thing you can do is explain why X is in as simple terms as you can. If that doesn't work, you have two options .. slap it around (BAD!) or let it cool down and find its composure in due time.
(Third option is to give in and do whatever it takes to appease the little ****, but rest assured the little buggers remember the cave-ins vividly and will start throwing tantrums over the most ridiculous things imaginable!).

Zulu explained the situation in very simple terms but the emo-raging continued .. would you like them to smack you around a bit with some carpet-banning perhaps?

Sujanra Acoma
Minmatar
Shadow Kitty Legion
Rura-Penthe
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:09:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: amarri victari
seems to me like you are focused on one minor detail here.

what about BAD like a complete lack of customer service towards paying customers ?


I'm a paying customer, and I've never noted problems with "customer service".
What exactly do you mean?

Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.25 18:03:00 - [10]
 

Every one of these thread just sound like whines from children.

Has CCP really done anything that bad? I don't think so.
Is CQ really that useful now? Not really, but it's been long stated that it is the first pass release of station interaction.
Is your PC too underpowered to run the game now? Well guess better to upgrade now before more station features are added.
Don't like that you have to upgrade? Well I have a commodore 64 that I wish could run Wing Commander 3, but such is life.
Is the NEX items too expensive for you? Too bad then, earn more isk so that you can afford them. We can't have too many monacles around the galaxy, else it would lose its elite appeal. Perhaps you should wait for the Quafe Tee shirts to go on sale.

Naomi Knight
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.25 18:08:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Kaelie Onren
Every one of these thread just sound like whines from children.

Has CCP really done anything that bad? I don't think so.
Is CQ really that useful now? Not really, but it's been long stated that it is the first pass release of station interaction.
Is your PC too underpowered to run the game now? Well guess better to upgrade now before more station features are added.
Don't like that you have to upgrade? Well I have a commodore 64 that I wish could run Wing Commander 3, but such is life.
Is the NEX items too expensive for you? Too bad then, earn more isk so that you can afford them. We can't have too many monacles around the galaxy, else it would lose its elite appeal. Perhaps you should wait for the Quafe Tee shirts to go on sale.

yep
bunch of whiners ,
the only problem is that i cant spin my ship now :=( hope they will fix this,and missiles still no launcher grapics

Sebastian Talos
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:04:00 - [12]
 

I think the only thing that will change CCP right now is bad press. the CSM if anything has been in the press in the past due to EVE being the only MMO with a player-ran council providing feedback.

A entire resignation would generate further press and emphasis on the overall disagreement of this 'vocal minority'

Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:17:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Naomi Knight
Originally by: Kaelie Onren
Every one of these thread just sound like whines from children.

Has CCP really done anything that bad? I don't think so.
Is CQ really that useful now? Not really, but it's been long stated that it is the first pass release of station interaction.
Is your PC too underpowered to run the game now? Well guess better to upgrade now before more station features are added.
Don't like that you have to upgrade? Well I have a commodore 64 that I wish could run Wing Commander 3, but such is life.
Is the NEX items too expensive for you? Too bad then, earn more isk so that you can afford them. We can't have too many monacles around the galaxy, else it would lose its elite appeal. Perhaps you should wait for the Quafe Tee shirts to go on sale.

yep
bunch of whiners ,
the only problem is that i cant spin my ship now :=( hope they will fix this,and missiles still no launcher grapics


Wouldn't mind a ship spinning alternative to the 'door' but eh, nothing to go bomb Jita about. I can wait for it. Maybe a mini ship spin in the holo display in the CQ.

Missiles? what missile launcher effects? There never were any, so its not a problem. just slated for the next graphics update no doubt.


 

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