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Ms Freak
Amarr
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:24:00 - [211]
 

Originally by: Caelestis Starcaller

Issue 3 MT & Features
Community awnser = Its soundwaves personal thought in an internal document not freaking company policy

Issue 4 CCP Zulu's Blog
Community awnser = 500 pages of flames and you expect an awnser? /facepalm

Issue 6 Broken & Stealth
Community awnser = most have been fixed and so what that you cant be unprobable anymore. Now stealth actually gets more added value as a feature.

Issue 7 Communication
Community awnser = ya thats right go protest to someting that hasnt even been done and in the proces cripple the economy for your fellow players. Like this really hurts CCP..... It hurts us you idiots. What point is there in communicating with an angry mob of idiots.



I wish to appologise for biting at this particular post however, In reply to your post:

Issue 3: I didn't mention any names and neither did i suggest it was anything other than what you stated.

Issue 4: Again, i have stated clearly, numerous times that this post has been created to create calm instead of need 500-page flame fests. Your point is exactly why a controlled thread such as this is needed.

Issue 6: Did i mention the unprobable change? I don't recall doing so....?

Issue 7: No-where in this entire thread is there mention of "protest". This thread is exactly what it says on the tin "A Clear and Consice request for CCP to address some customer concerns in order to stop the current madness".

If something isn't clear then please point it out and i will adjust the post as i have been doing all day as constructive comments are made.

@everyone else: Sorry he just made me mad Embarassed

Ms Freak
Amarr
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:26:00 - [212]
 

Originally by: Vyper Harkonnen
YOU'RE FORGETTING ABOUT NON-VANITY ITEMS!

CCP has clearly demonstrated that if you don't physically shove something in their face then they will ignore it. OP needs to add more clearly defined concerns about pay to win items.


I am sure that CCP are aware of this concern and I have made reference to this very issue in the two sections appropriate.

Vyper Harkonnen
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:27:00 - [213]
 

bump! keep this at the top of the forums!

Holly Cleland
Special Operations Foxhound
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:31:00 - [214]
 

Originally by: Ms Freak
@everyone else: Sorry he just made me mad Embarassed


It's understandable, bump for common sense.

yokozuno
Mind Games.
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:37:00 - [215]
 

great post. Nice recap of the community worries..

I would like though.. Add the non-vanity issue and make it a complete list. donīt give em an easy way out on that huge bomb.



Caelestis Starcaller
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:39:00 - [216]
 

Edited by: Caelestis Starcaller on 25/06/2011 19:42:38
Originally by: Ms Freak
Originally by: Caelestis Starcaller

Issue 3 MT & Features
Community awnser = Its soundwaves personal thought in an internal document not freaking company policy

Issue 4 CCP Zulu's Blog
Community awnser = 500 pages of flames and you expect an awnser? /facepalm

Issue 6 Broken & Stealth
Community awnser = most have been fixed and so what that you cant be unprobable anymore. Now stealth actually gets more added value as a feature.

Issue 7 Communication
Community awnser = ya thats right go protest to someting that hasnt even been done and in the proces cripple the economy for your fellow players. Like this really hurts CCP..... It hurts us you idiots. What point is there in communicating with an angry mob of idiots.



I wish to appologise for biting at this particular post however, In reply to your post:

Issue 3: I didn't mention any names and neither did i suggest it was anything other than what you stated.

Issue 4: Again, i have stated clearly, numerous times that this post has been created to create calm instead of need 500-page flame fests. Your point is exactly why a controlled thread such as this is needed.

Issue 6: Did i mention the unprobable change? I don't recall doing so....?

Issue 7: No-where in this entire thread is there mention of "protest". This thread is exactly what it says on the tin "A Clear and Consice request for CCP to address some customer concerns in order to stop the current madness".

If something isn't clear then please point it out and i will adjust the post as i have been doing all day as constructive comments are made.

@everyone else: Sorry he just made me mad Embarassed



Good then we are on an equal footing

As far as point 3 goes i actually took the time to read the document in question and am refering to what everyone is making a fuse about therefor i NAME the name not globally hide behind words.

Post something that is worth mentioning and we can be civil but your rant of colorful junk is complete bogus and also the reason why it will never be sticky-ed

All you protesters are ruining the fun for everyone else. How about wait for CCP to get back from the weekend get a clear head and start from scratch with stuff that makes sense.

It not like the world is gonna end tomorrow if you don't get your answers now.

C0SMIC GIRL
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:41:00 - [217]
 

+1 pretty much says it all, good post.
Take heed ccp, dont bite the hand that feeds you.

Cz Ire
Minmatar
The Partisan Brigade
Republic Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:41:00 - [218]
 

+1

Ms Freak
Amarr
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:43:00 - [219]
 

Originally by: Caelestis Starcaller
Originally by: Ms Freak
Originally by: Caelestis Starcaller

*Snip*



*Snip*

@everyone else: Sorry he just made me mad Embarassed


Good then we are on an equal footing
Post something that is worth mentioning and we can be civil but your rant of colorful junk is complete bogus and also the reason why it will never be sticky-ed

All you protesters are ruining the fun for everyone else. How about wait for CCP to get back from the weekend get a clear head and start from scratch with stuff that makes sense.

It not like the world is gonna end tomorrow if you don't get your answers now.


Sorry but:

1) The OP's are not "a rant".
2) No-one here is condoning the "protests", i certainly am not.
3) "This" is not a "protest" (well i dont think it is?)
4) No, the world will not end tomorrow.

I'm really not going to respond to your posts any further unless you can be more constructive. Thanks.

Andares Sol
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:45:00 - [220]
 

+1

Ardasia
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:47:00 - [221]
 

+1

Marhaba
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:47:00 - [222]
 

Originally by: Caelestis Starcaller
Issue 1 Ship spinning
Community awnser = Get a life



You do realize it has little to do with ship spinning and a lot to do with loss of functionality, right? By characterizing the problem as "ship spinning," you're showing your bias.

The hangar view was functional and loaded quickly. Instead that has been completely scrapped and replaced with something either almost as quick with NO functionality (door wallpaper), or almost as functional and MUCH slower (Captains Quarters).

This is completely ignoring the fact that CQ is little more than an advertisement for NEX items. Being forced into this advertisement at the expense of our well-polished hangar view is a bit of a slap in the face

I fail how "getting a life" would address either of those issues.

Caelestis Starcaller
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:49:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: Ms Freak
Originally by: Caelestis Starcaller
Originally by: Ms Freak
Originally by: Caelestis Starcaller

*Snip*



*Snip*

@everyone else: Sorry he just made me mad Embarassed


Good then we are on an equal footing
Post something that is worth mentioning and we can be civil but your rant of colorful junk is complete bogus and also the reason why it will never be sticky-ed

All you protesters are ruining the fun for everyone else. How about wait for CCP to get back from the weekend get a clear head and start from scratch with stuff that makes sense.

It not like the world is gonna end tomorrow if you don't get your answers now.


Sorry but:

1) The OP's are not "a rant".
2) No-one here is condoning the "protests", i certainly am not.
3) "This" is not a "protest" (well i dont think it is?)
4) No, the world will not end tomorrow.

I'm really not going to respond to your posts any further unless you can be more constructive. Thanks.

You make a post stating 8 issues that everyone is crying about atm and locking down the tradehub because of that and you dont condone the protest??? now you got me confused.
I guess the only way to be constructive is if i agree with you right?

TheButcherPete
StoneWall Metals Productions
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:49:00 - [224]
 

Ms Freak,
Thank you so much for not making another rage thread. If we want CCP to treat us like adults we need to stop acting like children.

I vote to sticky this thread until the majority of players are happy.

Everything you said was wrong with EVE and CCP, was completely true.
-Pete

Ms Freak
Amarr
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:55:00 - [225]
 

Originally by: Caelestis Starcaller

You make a post stating 8 issues that everyone is crying about atm and locking down the tradehub because of that and you dont condone the protest??? now you got me confused.
I guess the only way to be constructive is if i agree with you right?


Not at all. Just because i don't think CCP are being fair to thier customers doesn't mean i want to encourage them to bring EvE it to its knees!

There are ways and means of resolving issues. Protesting to everyone's detriment is not one of them in my opinion.

Tkala
True Soldier Of Liberty
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:55:00 - [226]
 

Ms Freak you are spot on.
CCP i realy am to old to be treated this way as a costumer
I realy would like to push the "undo cancel subscription" button cause this game is great and still has huge potential for the future. MAKE THINGS RIGHT

Tek Handle
Biotronics Inc.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:57:00 - [227]
 


+1 | Vote for Sticky | TY Ms Freak

Myobi Rush
Killboard Padding
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:58:00 - [228]
 

The whole situation is out of control that I fear for the future of EVE. I seriously hope there will be a resolution. I love this game too much to rage quit, however the moment I see game changing for real money... I'm gone. I left Team Fortress 2 for that very reason.

Real money for vanity item... I'm alright with to a certain degree. At this rate I suppose we can expect stripper pole costing 30 PLEX, Different couch for 25 PLEX, and ship paints for 10 PLEX... Thats going too far.

Don't get me wrong... I've played Second Life for years and spent hundreds on it. The prices there is much more acceptable.

Please... PLEASE hear us out CCP! Don't ignore/disrespect your loyal customers.

Steph Wing
Gallente
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:58:00 - [229]
 

+1

Keep this thread bumped.

Ms Freak
Amarr
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:59:00 - [230]
 

Originally by: TheButcherPete
Ms Freak,
Thank you so much for not making another rage thread. If we want CCP to treat us like adults we need to stop acting like children.

I vote to sticky this thread until the majority of players are happy.

Everything you said was wrong with EVE and CCP, was completely true.
-Pete


Your quite welcome Pete. I couldn't agree with you more.

Hyperforce99
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:01:00 - [231]
 

+1

Tappits
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:03:00 - [232]
 

CCP got it wrong.


Ra Vhim
Black Bag Ops
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:03:00 - [233]
 

This is a good thread.

Bump.

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:05:00 - [234]
 

If the OP replaces the word 'community' with 'narrow minded, insular bunch of whiny forum ****ants that think they talk for the majority' I will consider giving the motion to stick my grudging support.

Mr Epeen Cool

Leisen
Caldari
Interrobang Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:07:00 - [235]
 

Sticky.

Caelestis Starcaller
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:07:00 - [236]
 

Originally by: Mr Epeen
If the OP replaces the word 'community' with 'narrow minded, insular bunch of whiny forum ****ants that think they talk for the majority' I will consider giving the motion to stick my grudging support.

Mr Epeen Cool


Hehe +1 :P

Nepcrosia
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:08:00 - [237]
 

+1

Ms Freak
Amarr
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:09:00 - [238]
 

Originally by: Mr Epeen
If the OP replaces the word 'community' with 'narrow minded, insular bunch of whiny forum ****ants that think they talk for the majority' I will consider giving the motion to stick my grudging support.

Mr Epeen Cool


I actually did 'LOL' at that... seriously i did!

D4rkM4773r
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:13:00 - [239]
 

+1 to the OP this addresses all the issues.

Pherick Sjang
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:16:00 - [240]
 

Well put, OP.

The quality of your posting is admirable.


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