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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:34:00 - [151]
 

To the "CCP Communication" part you should add "several occations of lies" from CCP side. CCP's stance on MT is one thing that got multiple lies, and CCP lying to CSM who was instated purely to give us transparency is another thing.

The repeated lies is the worst of the bad things they have done recently.

Cpt Xao
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:38:00 - [152]
 

Very good. up

London
Imminent Ruin
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:41:00 - [153]
 

Excellent write-up, I applaud you sir.

ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:43:00 - [154]
 

CCP had their chance. They said screw you!!! We tried to talk to them before the the protest. They said STFU sit down and go to the dollhouse and buy a monocle. The protesters have all had their accounts cancelled already. We are just making eve crappy for everyone else until we leave

Chingyz
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:44:00 - [155]
 

I have some concerns that don't really fall unde the issues listed.

I've always played EVE because of the sandbox with player driven economy. With the introduction of the NEX store and the plans they seem to have for Dust 514 I'm worried that EVE is moving away from a player driven economy. Vanity items and everything else that might be introduced to the NEX store is not player made.

Dust 514 was supposed to be tied in with EVE and PI was supposed to be a part of supplying the Dust 514 players, however it seems that CCP is going to use a microtransaction apporach to Dust 514 and I'm worried how that will affect PI and the products made from PI.

In my oppinion they should have made blueprints for people to buy so that vanity items etc. would be made by the players strengthening the playerdriven econommy rather as it is now, weakening it.

Razires
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:53:00 - [156]
 

Edited by: Razires on 25/06/2011 15:53:33
+1

Ms Freak
Amarr
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:06:00 - [157]
 

Originally by: ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS
CCP had their chance. They said screw you!!! We tried to talk to them before the the protest. They said STFU sit down and go to the dollhouse and buy a monocle. The protesters have all had their accounts cancelled already. We are just making eve crappy for everyone else until we leave



Guys - please I'm trying to keep this thread free of this sort of thing so that CCP at least have a chance of replying to a post that is not full of hate and rage.

Vultaras
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:14:00 - [158]
 

+1

CCP, WE ARE who gives you thick personal wallet with Euros, so you better please respond. Your silence shows only disrespect and proves everything what is stated in this thread.

Thank you.

Marsaac
Minmatar
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:31:00 - [159]
 

Bump so more people can read this excellent thread.

Gracron
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:36:00 - [160]
 

+1

Well put and worded

bishop841B
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:36:00 - [161]
 

+1, support op!

Lordess Trader
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:43:00 - [162]
 

+1

Raven God
Texas Inc.
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:56:00 - [163]
 

bump

Akira Zendragon
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:02:00 - [164]
 

+1

This is a very clear and concise summary of the issues at hand.

Mods: Please sticky?

CCP: Please read this carefully. If there is anything unclear about this, I'm sure the CSM can offer all the additional information you require. After having thoroughly assimilated these concerns, please address them in one or more Dev Blogs that actually address these issues instead of dismissing them offhand.

Aruk Jr
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:08:00 - [165]
 

+1

Rocom
Brotherhood of Heart and Steel
Iron Heart Brotherhood
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:09:00 - [166]
 

http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/CCP-Games-Reviews-E159347.htm

The reviews left by CCP employees about upper-level management just left me speechless...

Fennore
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:14:00 - [167]
 

+1

I concur. This is as strait forward as it gets.


Ghazi
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:15:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: Ms Freak
Originally by: Noran Ferah
Without a monocle, you just will not be taken seriously.

Where is your passion? Your commitment?


In all seriousness, why bother with all this feigned outrage? I can go buy myself a titan pilot (and a titan) for RM right now, and nobody cares. That is using RM for an in-game advantage. Why is there no outrage against that? To not rail and howl against the CCP supported ability to buy characters and isk for cash, this is all a logical fallacy.




Please can we keep this constructive so that CCP may have a chance at addressing this situation ina way to everyone liking?

This thread is not "Feigned outrage" it is clear, thought-out constructive questioning. And i would like to keep it that way if at all possible. Very Happy


Never knew I would be so proud to know you, brother. Keep up the good work. +1

Ms Freak
Amarr
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:18:00 - [169]
 

Originally by: Ghazi
Originally by: Ms Freak
Originally by: Noran Ferah
Without a monocle, you just will not be taken seriously.

Where is your passion? Your commitment?


In all seriousness, why bother with all this feigned outrage? I can go buy myself a titan pilot (and a titan) for RM right now, and nobody cares. That is using RM for an in-game advantage. Why is there no outrage against that? To not rail and howl against the CCP supported ability to buy characters and isk for cash, this is all a logical fallacy.




Please can we keep this constructive so that CCP may have a chance at addressing this situation ina way to everyone liking?

This thread is not "Feigned outrage" it is clear, thought-out constructive questioning. And i would like to keep it that way if at all possible. Very Happy


Never knew I would be so proud to know you, brother. Keep up the good work. +1


I have no idea if i should kiss you or hit you Laughing (probably one followed by the other!!)

Toros Revoke
Revoke Foundation
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:18:00 - [170]
 

Bump

Fuzojix
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:20:00 - [171]
 

+1, very well written

Malice Redeemer
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:21:00 - [172]
 

agreed

Tira Sturm
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:23:00 - [173]
 

This is a good summary

Jimbob Jumbo
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:23:00 - [174]
 

No mention of the mining / ratting macro and botting that plagues null sec? This is as detrimental to Eve than all this latest BS. Yet CCP do very little and 1d or 7d bans for 0.0001% of those caught do not go far enough.

Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:23:00 - [175]
 

very nicely summarized op.

not so ccp. 52 monos sold! well great news, in the short run.


Marhaba
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:24:00 - [176]
 

Stated very clearly, thank you.

I just want to add one thing to the reason why I want CQ to be optional, and I want the hangar view back:

CQ just feels like an advertisement for the NEX store. There is no real functionality to the CQ, but there is a link to buy new items, and a mirror. That's great for some people, but forcing me to either view this advertisement or stare at a static jpeg of a door every time I dock is bothersome.

Matah Hari
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:25:00 - [177]
 

+1 Good post OP and I hope it gets the sticky.

I would reword the following though:

"•It states MT will be in ALL areas of the EvE Universe." The memo doesn't "state" this will be the plan of action (at least not explicitly), so they can easily answer this point by saying the memo is just a debate of ideas or possibilities. This should be stated more in the lines of "why is this even being considered even though you know how the players feel about it". Or something like that.


Thank you

Ms Freak
Amarr
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:27:00 - [178]
 

Originally by: Jimbob Jumbo
No mention of the mining / ratting macro and botting that plagues null sec? This is as detrimental to Eve than all this latest BS. Yet CCP do very little and 1d or 7d bans for 0.0001% of those caught do not go far enough.


We all here have various issues with EvE and RMT is probably high on most peoples list.

However, we are currently trying to politely ask CCP to help us understand thier actions and re-actions regarding the Incarna release and with any luck they may be reading this thread and going "Ok - they are not being unreasonable, lets get a response together". Thanks for the bump and support Very Happy

Ms Freak
Amarr
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:31:00 - [179]
 

Originally by: Matah Hari
+1 Good post OP and I hope it gets the sticky.

I would reword the following though:

"•It states MT will be in ALL areas of the EvE Universe." The memo doesn't "state" this will be the plan of action (at least not explicitly), so they can easily answer this point by saying the memo is just a debate of ideas or possibilities. This should be stated more in the lines of "why is this even being considered even though you know how the players feel about it". Or something like that.


Thank you


The following excert was taken from Page 5 of "Greed is Good?" and starts in the middile of the last paragraph on the right hand side.

"Thus, we will not and cannot focus
on virtual sales only within the Incarna
environment, nor build that
environment around such sales;
rather, we will effect a universal
strategy of micro-sales throughout
the EVE experience. So, as a player,
while you are inside a station,
you will find gameplay that links
to other aspects of the game and
that also presents you with virtual
purchasing opportunities — just
as you will while you are in space
or on a planet fighting as a DUST
merc."


Thanks for the support and keeping it constructive Very Happy

News Group
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:34:00 - [180]
 

+1


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