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Shadowmancer007
Posted - 2011.06.25 01:33:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Shadowmancer007 on 25/06/2011 01:34:30
CCP response please. Until CCP response, default answer is "Yes, best items will only be purchasable for real-world cash"

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.06.25 01:35:00 - [2]
 

Right now ? Absolutely not.
Soon ? Highly unlikely.
Soon™ ? Depends how bad their financial situation gets.
Eventually ? Almost certainly. Just pray it's in the distant enough future for you to no longer care.

Kinuko
Posted - 2011.06.25 01:36:00 - [3]
 

Yep it will happen.

cytex malrone
Posted - 2011.06.25 01:37:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Shadowmancer007
Edited by: Shadowmancer007 on 25/06/2011 01:34:30
CCP response please. Until CCP response, default answer is "Yes, best items will only be purchasable for real-world cash"


They have responded the answer is yes read zulus blog and read between the lines . You have your answer to this question.

Shadowmancer007
Posted - 2011.06.25 01:56:00 - [5]
 

Keep this on the front page so that they have to give a straight answer!

Playing Eve
Posted - 2011.06.25 01:57:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Playing Eve on 25/06/2011 01:57:52
You don't even need to read between the lines. From Zulu's last dev blog:

Quote:
So this thing is vanity items only?

Yes... As time progresses, we'll...revise our strategy. We've also discussed this issue in depth with the Council of Stellar Management and will both consult with them and keep them up to date every step of the way.


So they said vanity item only, but then admitted that they would revise their strategy on that as time progresses. That, coupled with the Fearless articles on micro-transactions (and their careful avoidance of making any promises now), shows that they do indeed hope to to add non-vanity items as soon as they think they can slip it by us.

Bklyn 1
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:00:00 - [7]
 

On the bright side, if they follow their pricing model, a frigate will cost $50,000, a cruiser $250,000 and a battleship will be $5,000,000.

Madjak Burton
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:00:00 - [8]
 

from the leaked "Fearless" publication that apparently started the entire OWTRAGE.

"I don't oppose the concept of virtual goods in the case of vanity items, merely in cases where the monetization of items impacts the balance of the game." - John Tubefield

but no one is mentioning the anti-MT portion of the "Fearless" publication cause, ya know, that won't get my blog more hits.

Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:02:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Madjak Burton
from the leaked "Fearless" publication that apparently started the entire OWTRAGE.

"I don't oppose the concept of virtual goods in the case of vanity items, merely in cases where the monetization of items impacts the balance of the game." - John Tubefield

but no one is mentioning the anti-MT portion of the "Fearless" publication cause, ya know, that won't get my blog more hits.


Untrue - JT has a whole /love thread of his own going actually. They should put him in charge, actually.

Khamelean
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:08:00 - [10]
 

Quote:
Virtual goods sales in EVE Online will evolve through sales of vanity items, first in Incarna but later in-space features. The scope will be (and there‘s no design has been done around this, we‘re just talking strategy now) that anything that doesn‘t affect gameplay directly can be, potentially, sold for PLEX or other means. Ideas that have come up include Incarna clothing and furniture, logos on spaceships and swapping out portraits. This is by no means a comprehensive list, nor is it a commitment that said items will be available for sale, I mention these as an example for what type of items we‘re thinking about.

Linkage

Selinate
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:10:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Khamelean
Quote:
Virtual goods sales in EVE Online will evolve through sales of vanity items, first in Incarna but later in-space features. The scope will be (and there‘s no design has been done around this, we‘re just talking strategy now) that anything that doesn‘t affect gameplay directly can be, potentially, sold for PLEX or other means. Ideas that have come up include Incarna clothing and furniture, logos on spaceships and swapping out portraits. This is by no means a comprehensive list, nor is it a commitment that said items will be available for sale, I mention these as an example for what type of items we‘re thinking about.

Linkage



So the answer is no.

Serenthris Landry
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:11:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Serenthris Landry on 25/06/2011 02:11:51
Judging by CCPs adamant refusal to answer this question I believe we can accurately infer that the answer to this is indeed and emphatically yes.

Tyria Sharken
Minmatar
Forging Industries
Silent Infinity
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:12:00 - [13]
 

Quote:

So this thing is vanity items only?

Yes.




There is your definant answer.

Linkage: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=913
Scroll down towards the bottom of the page.

Sometimes i think people just look for something to rant about and they never actualy read what is posted by CCP about the feature their complaining or even going sofar as to 'speculate' about.

Snake Scofield
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:14:00 - [14]
 

You can't purchase anything for real-world cash except plex.

Anything they add will be available through isk -> plex -> aurum -> item and that's if it isn't available on the market anyway, like all the clothes are currently.

Whats the big deal?

The only problem is if they add a new ship or module that is better than anything currently available and don't provide a method to produce it. I doubt this is going to happen.

cytex malrone
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:15:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Tyria Sharken
Quote:

So this thing is vanity items only?

Yes.




There is your definant answer.

Linkage: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=913
Scroll down towards the bottom of the page.

Sometimes i think people just look for something to rant about and they never actualy read what is posted by CCP about the feature their complaining or even going sofar as to 'speculate' about.


Quote:

Yes. We will start out with a rather limited number of items initially, carefully measuring the demand and how it impacts the economy. As time progresses, we'll gradually introduce new items and revise our strategy



Is the full quote do you spot the wiggle room there so they cant be accused of lieing to us.

Tyria Sharken
Minmatar
Forging Industries
Silent Infinity
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: cytex malrone
Originally by: Tyria Sharken
Quote:

So this thing is vanity items only?

Yes.




There is your definant answer.

Linkage: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=913
Scroll down towards the bottom of the page.

Sometimes i think people just look for something to rant about and they never actualy read what is posted by CCP about the feature their complaining or even going sofar as to 'speculate' about.


Quote:

Yes. We will start out with a rather limited number of items initially, carefully measuring the demand and how it impacts the economy. As time progresses, we'll gradually introduce new items and revise our strategy



Is the full quote do you spot the wiggle room there so they cant be accused of lieing to us.


All i see is that whoever wrote that dev-blog didnt repeat "vanity items only" inbetween ever other word. Im assumeing that is because they believed that more people would be like me and understand that everything after the 'yes' was meant to be specific to vanity items that the 'yes' said would be the only things ever added to it. I guess they forgot that so many people will jump 5ly's to the left and imediatly assume they are going to go back on something they answerd 5 words befor.

Tyria Sharken
Minmatar
Forging Industries
Silent Infinity
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Tyria Sharken on 25/06/2011 03:44:52
Or if you prefer. We can give you the pre-school version that shows you what they meant.


Yes. We will start out with a rather limited number of {vanity} items initially, carefully measuring the demand and how it impacts the economy. As time progresses, we'll gradually introduce new {vanity} items and revise our strategy.


*note*
would have eddited my first post but for some reason the 'reply to topic' box is constantly scrolling 'up' on me whenever i try to type more than 2 or 3 lines below the edge and i cant figure out why yet.


Khamelean
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:52:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: cytex malrone

Is the full quote do you spot the wiggle room there so they cant be accused of lieing to us.


Of course there is wiggle room. Companies simply cant make a statement like you want to here. There is no way they can predict the decisions of management if the company changes hands. Who knows what the economic climate will look like in 20 years, 50 years?

The best you will ever get from a company or person is what they can honestly tell you about right now. And for right now their policy is clear. You want a 100% guarantee that something will never happen? Well harden the **** up, life doesn't work that way.


 

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