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Sister Bliss
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:42:00 - [1]
 

I suspect that many people like me are completely underwhelemed by the lack of any gameplay content in Incarna and additionally nothing of virtue being displayed in the development roadmap at this years FanFest.

With CCP only recently stating that they are just starting to look at gameplay and 0.0 again, I worry that it will be 2013 at the earlist before we see any new content developments or fixes to broken core mechanics. Concerns were raised that Eve development was put on hold for 18 months and there has been little if anything to reassure players and customers that there is a future beyond rehashing of existing content with upgraded turrets and models etc.

Specifically, one year ago, CCP published a Dev Blog titled Iterative development and what's happening in 2011 which outlined the future investment portfolio for development which largely centred on DUST, Incarna, Eve Gate and so forth. There was nothing at all of substance concerning EVE content or fixes to major gameplay issues. Instead, all revenues and investment was being divested into non-Eve projects, or expansions the majority of the player base did not want.

The Dev Blog was received very badly by the playerbase, and to follow was a damage control exercise which focused on low hanging fruit to appease everyone.

I mention this as one year on, the concerns that everyone raised so passionately last year are now realised. Incarna is a shallow expansion which offers only novelty content. I am not specificlaly against increased immersion and will quite happily walk in stations...but not at the expense of stopping all other meaningful development on Eve.

Is there anything that you as CCP can publish that outlines a future that we can look forward to?


Sister Bliss
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.25 13:58:00 - [2]
 

* bump *

Mater Dolorosa
Posted - 2011.06.25 14:02:00 - [3]
 

When 90% of the income generated by Eve is used for other things than Eve what can you expect ?

Kinuko
Posted - 2011.06.25 14:02:00 - [4]
 

You can expect more content that is tied to MT system. So if you don't want to pay for more $$$ then no content for you.

Jason1138
Posted - 2011.06.25 14:05:00 - [5]
 

i saw a CCP employee say on another thread a couple months ago that the next T3's would probably not be released until 2014, so i pretty much agree with you

when you look at the last 3 releases, they've been more focused on removing things and nerfing things than they have introducing anything. The next 2 or 3 seem to be basically walking in stations type stuff, to hear the talk. I would expect a continuing smoke and mirrors performance where CCP shifts things around (like this scanning stuff, or removing social skills) to make it seem as if the game is being updated in major ways, when in reality most of the man hours are going into things that no one wants or cares about

that's why I unsubbed before this "expansion", because its clear we're not going to get any significant content for years, and why do you want to pay maintainence on a game in the hope that 2 years from now it will be good?

I personally don't even mind the microtransactions, it was the total lack of content over the last year (other than incursions), combined with the promise of continuing no content, combined with the outright rudeness and disrespect of the CCP employees that drove me away

Dorian Wylde
Posted - 2011.06.25 14:10:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Sister Bliss




Specifically, one year ago, CCP published a Dev Blog titled Iterative development and what's happening in 2011 which outlined the future investment portfolio for development which largely centred on DUST, Incarna, Eve Gate and so forth. There was nothing at all of substance concerning EVE content or fixes to major gameplay issues. Instead, all revenues and investment was being divested into non-Eve projects, or expansions the majority of the player base did not want.





While I agree with your main point, and I actually cancelled my accounts for quite a while when that blog was published, I want to point out the bolded section. Don't ever, EVER, make statements like that. You have no idea what the majority wants, you only know what you want. You do not speak for me, or anyone else. Trying to act like you do just undermines any legitimate argument you might try to make.

Sister Bliss
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.25 14:17:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Sister Bliss on 25/06/2011 14:18:23
Edited by: Sister Bliss on 25/06/2011 14:17:11
Originally by: Dorian Wylde
Originally by: Sister Bliss
Don't ever, EVER, make statements like that. You have no idea what the majority wants, you only know what you want. You do not speak for me, or anyone else. Trying to act like you do just undermines any legitimate argument you might try to make.


I believe I have a pretty good idea what the majority wants actually. But I do not claim to speak for you or everyone*. Fact is the majority do not want space barbie, or rather they do not want it at the expense of prioritisation over space ships. Canvas enough of the alliance leaderships in eve and they can tell you the same based on interaction with their own members. But that isn't the point, no need to make a personal attack out of it.

Alhambra Rainwalker
Caldari
Innera Holiday Resorts
Posted - 2011.06.25 14:24:00 - [8]
 

Yeah, this is even bigger problem than what is going on right now. Game simple is not worth paying for at the moment. Who knows when they actually manage to make Incarna work like it was originally visioned? Can they bring new working playgrounds like wormholes and can they fix 0.0?

So taking very extended multi-year break is a very good idea for older players who have tried most of this stuff and found it wanting. Skills points get less valuable after 80m mark unless you are vetting your main for titan or something. Cool So actually not training is not a big loss.

Havegun Willtravel
Posted - 2011.06.25 14:27:00 - [9]
 

Don't hold your breath.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1538279

"Are you able to give us a very loose guesstimate on when we can expect the remainder of older ships to be redesigned like the Maller and Scorpion?
I'm not looking for a set in stone date, just something rough like "possibly summer 2012". If you're able to tell, should we be expecting a bulk delivery of ships like Trinity gave us, "


CCP Fallout
Posted - 2011.06.25 11:50:00 - [4] - Quote
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I'm currently not aware of any new ship designs and am not sure if any are currently planned at this time.

So much for internets spaceships.

Oxeu
Caldari
D.R. Incorporated
Genesis Invictus
Posted - 2011.06.25 14:36:00 - [10]
 

* BUMP *

Evlyna
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2011.06.25 14:52:00 - [11]
 

*BUMP*

Dust should have stayed a storyline. Not a game.

Gr0ansak
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:01:00 - [12]
 

Bump

Oberine Noriepa
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:04:00 - [13]
 

New nebulae: When? I'm getting tired of looking at low-res nebulae. Sad

Tek Handle
Biotronics Inc.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:04:00 - [14]
 

bump

8agpuss
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:07:00 - [15]
 

EvE is a finished product... onto new games now!

Just need to give EvE a few shiney extras to reward all the Vets! Consumerism enhances the gaming experience as we all know!

Sajad
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:08:00 - [16]
 

BUMP

Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:09:00 - [17]
 

Apocyrpha was the last expansion. From now on we will have nothing (unless you buy dust/WoD)

Tobiaz
Spacerats
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:14:00 - [18]
 

I think with the current management CCP us under, all you can expect for coming expansion are more overpriced junk that can be put into the vendingmachine.

Also they will go 110% with that brilliant idea of selling gamefeatures like +50 fittings and remapping for Aurum.

Everything to try and keep the PLEX-prices up, because the RMT-shops will smell the blood in the water.

Tons of useless new features and eyecandy, but nothing that will help save EVE, because the current management and sales guys JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND EVE.

Archievements bought and challenges cheated do not attribute to the long lasting appeal of a game. Period.

FenShui
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:37:00 - [19]
 

*tagada tsouin tsouin*

*bump*

Demon Azrakel
Gallente
Defiant..
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:43:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Mater Dolorosa
When 90% of the income generated by Eve is used for other things than Eve what can you expect ?


Quoting for truth

Sk4r
Caldari
Biotronics Inc.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:12:00 - [21]
 

*bump*

Sk4r
Caldari
Biotronics Inc.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:17:00 - [22]
 

so can we get an answer on the topic CCP ?

i Love EvE but i joined EvE cause of Flying Space ships, not for Walking in stations and/or getting a Shooter if i want to play a Shooter ill join Counterstrike nothing to pay, nothing to worrie about.

BuRniZZ
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:22:00 - [23]
 

When will those of us who enjoy the Eve gameplay as it is get something new added to our game? An answer to this would be swell.

Skyral
Posted - 2011.06.25 23:31:00 - [24]
 

Yes, this is definately another one for the demands list:
When can we expect any new -spaceship related features-?

Where are the devs that came up with bombers, dictors and T3s? Get them back at the drawing board and give them a raise.

And if I could chose between vanity items / incarna / one new pewpew spaceship class, that choise would be an easy one :)

madmax 27
Madhatters Inc.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.26 10:15:00 - [25]
 

bump

Mycheala Zanjoahir
Posted - 2011.06.26 10:18:00 - [26]
 

Hey...

Whatever happened to the cool internet spaceships we voted for last year....?

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Adrian Schultze
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.26 10:35:00 - [27]
 

Guys....don't forget the stuff they were not able to fix since the beginning... like the bounty system ect ect ect.....

Next thing they will launch is an expansion to make eve look more like WoW.....

All this **** totally remembers me of the SWG times... it looks like i will now see the next MMO get patched to death with bull**** nobody wants....

Cuchulin
DEFCON.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:23:00 - [28]
 

There are so many things, that need reconsideration in the current sov mechanics, the cap and supercap field, 0.0 income generation.... and besides that it would be cool to see some nice new ships or heck...even new POS or stations from time to time...

So totaly agreeing with Bliss and hoping for an answer.

Cuchulin

Makalu Zarya
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:35:00 - [29]
 

This is actually one of those rare times when me and Bliss can agree on something.

nice post mate

*bump*

Sylar McIntyr
Caldari
Konstrukteure der Zukunft
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.26 12:09:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Makalu Zarya
This is actually one of those rare times when me and Bliss can agree on something.

nice post mate

*bump*


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