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Lord Fargo
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:16:00 - [241]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Mittens: 'We tried to ask them but they wouldn't tell us !!!! '

Douche.


Not really, ccp only tells the csm what they want them to know.

you're a scrub, so it's pretty hard for you to work that out.

Alexis Sachs
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:16:00 - [242]
 

Originally by: Barakkus
Kinda kewl to hear from an ex-employee, very interesting to have the perspective.


Overall I'm liking the back and forth and the range of voices we're getting.

Wakeland
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:17:00 - [243]
 

Its even different from the coffee analogy, since Starbucks hires and pays their farm works good wages, much higher than the average of the industry. CCP is making us pay 70$ for something that we could have optioned FOR FREE with the old portrait models. Thats not exclusivity, thats bullsh*t.

CCP needs to roll this crap downgrade back and fix their core game.

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:18:00 - [244]
 

Originally by: Alexis Sachs
Originally by: Barakkus
Kinda kewl to hear from an ex-employee, very interesting to have the perspective.


Overall I'm liking the back and forth and the range of voices we're getting.


I'm happy that there's a realistic and mature discourse on all these topics...it's a shame the show didn't happen 12 hours ago.

Hailey Sunweaver
Minmatar
Murientor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:19:00 - [245]
 

I think at this point it's going to take more then a simple statement to regain our trust. We need to see something set in stone. What do you think CCP can do other then just issue a statement saying we are AWSOME ect

Sahvi Morvaalis
R U D E
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:19:00 - [246]
 

http://www.planarjane.blogspot.com

In case you all are interested. ;)

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:20:00 - [247]
 

If CCP are mooks, what does that make Chairman Mao?

Alexis Sachs
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:20:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Alexis Sachs
Originally by: Barakkus
Kinda kewl to hear from an ex-employee, very interesting to have the perspective.


Overall I'm liking the back and forth and the range of voices we're getting.


I'm happy that there's a realistic and mature discourse on all these topics...it's a shame the show didn't happen 12 hours ago.


Or 24. I've been all over these forums posting and that's not usually my game. I'm a lurker. An avid lurker, but a lurker none the less. I was HOT 24 hours ago, and this would have chilled me out a bit.

Regardless, it's a good discussion and you know, nice to know we're not all mental - that others are ****ed/confused too.

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:20:00 - [249]
 

Originally by: Hailey Sunweaver
I think at this point it's going to take more then a simple statement to regain our trust. We need to see something set in stone. What do you think CCP can do other then just issue a statement saying we are AWSOME ect


I think they're still trying to figure out how to approach this further given the developments of the last day.

Rii Sarto
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:21:00 - [250]
 

Edited by: Rii Sarto on 25/06/2011 02:22:06
Why cant Eve radio dedicate a hour a month at least to allowing someone from CCP to come on and address the state of the game, let us know what they are thinking, what they have coming up and respond to some of major issues the players have. Whats talked about can be discussd with the csm so they can filter to CCP what we are concerned about at the time. This will show that CCP not only cares for us, but will also show that the CSM actually matters unlike now, where the CSM seems powerless and that CCP can do what they want with no recourse. Dev blogs are all well and good, but this will allow things to be discussed in far more depth than a few words will ever do

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:21:00 - [251]
 

"It's like a prep, mental direction thing"

Exactly. They are trying to get staff on track for scamming long-standing customers?

Arya Greywolf
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:22:00 - [252]
 

Response to person talking about it "being reasonable in an internal newsletter to talk about RMT for in-game progression/advantage":

I think that what you just said (about 30 seconds) ago about it being, essentially, not a big deal or just a discussion is kinda bullsh*t. You can say that and so can CCP - but IT'S NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION THAT IS MAKE OR BREAK FOR US - is aurum going to be for real ingame progression/advantage? The VERY FACT IT WAS EVEN BROUGHT UP and it has not been DIRECTLY answered, quite simply, makes it possible and that is not acceptable.

Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:22:00 - [253]
 

Question:

Is CCP in financical crisis and could it be behind this?

Leil Ren'Do
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:22:00 - [254]
 

What/who are the forces moving this? Investors? If so who are they?

Rixiu
The Inuits
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:23:00 - [255]
 

Edited by: Rixiu on 25/06/2011 02:23:09
I keep hearing that stuff is coming from "somewhere high up". Who owns CCP? Are there shareholders or investors that might be pulling strings?

Do they have any debts?

Onnen Mentar
Murientor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:23:00 - [256]
 

Discussion question:


Are MTs at all compatible with the sandbox concept and the "hardcore" (consequences) attitude/feel to EVE? Does the introduction of MTs fundamentally change EVE?

John Rothman
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:23:00 - [257]
 

I wanted to listen, but the site is so obtuse I can't figure out how to listen. What the frak?

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:23:00 - [258]
 

Originally by: Rii Sarto
Why cant Eve radio dedicate a hour a month at least to allowing someone from CCP to come on and address the state of the game, let us know what they are thinking, what they have coming up and respond to some of major issues the players have. Whats talked about can be discussd with the csm so they can filter to CCP what we are concerned about at the time. This will show that CCP not only cares for us, but will also show that the CSM actually matters unlike now, where the CSM seems powerless and that CCP can do what they want with no recourse


They had Zymurgist on a week ago or so.

I wish we had gotten an explination of the Fearless newsletter like we just got a couple minutes ago on air 24 hours sooner honestly.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:23:00 - [259]
 

The only thing I wonder about investors is if the "pressure" involves guns.

HoboWithAShip
They That Are
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:23:00 - [260]
 

I'm sorry, what just happened?

Alexis Sachs
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:24:00 - [261]
 

Am I the only one suddenly confused?

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:24:00 - [262]
 

Originally by: John Rothman
I wanted to listen, but the site is so obtuse I can't figure out how to listen. What the frak?


http://live1.completegamer.net:8020/listen.pls

Chidori kun
Minmatar
Starship Operating BastardZ
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:24:00 - [263]
 

Does CSM feel like they are hung out to dry... well feeling like meatshield.


Maisonian
Amarr
The Green Machine
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:24:00 - [264]
 

Wtf? Drama!

Addrake
Minmatar
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:25:00 - [265]
 

I have no Idea what just happened.. cryptic much ??

LOUD NOISES

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:25:00 - [266]
 

Edited by: Barakkus on 25/06/2011 02:25:14
Originally by: Alexis Sachs
Am I the only one suddenly confused?


...something important I guess...maybe they're getting someone from ccp on or something?

Kalaratiri
Minmatar
Teraa Matar
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:25:00 - [267]
 

/emote waits for the big news. it better be worth it, or I'm going to bed Smile

Larik Olen
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:25:00 - [268]
 

What did she say?!!

Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:25:00 - [269]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
If CCP are mooks, what does that make Chairman Mao?


We get it, you don't like the guy.

Dek Kato
Amarr
Delusions of Mediocrity
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:25:00 - [270]
 

I feel like this is important, and is being completely glossed over by the protests, which seem to be focusing entirely on 70$ monocles.

The real issue that I have currently is the last few weeks and ALL of things that have happened. The monetization of third party apps really started this whole thing, and it has snowballed.

The second thing that easily comes to mind is the whole Walking in Stations issue. People don't want to be forced to load an environment MORE graphic intensive than in-space when they want to go AFK. This was a massive issue, there were big forum threads, and they largely got overshadowed by the microtransaction issue.

Obviously the microtransaction has become the big issue, but I feel like people are really ignoring the overarching issue. This is no one thing, it is the overall feel of the playerbase over the last few weeks that has largely been, "CCP wants more money and is going to completely ignore us to do this."


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