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Mike deVoid
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 - [331]
 

CCP Glassdoor reviews:

http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/CCP-Games-Reviews-E159347.htm?sort.sortType=RD&sort.ascending=false

Leil Ren'Do
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:44:00 - [332]
 

Mittens, How is this affecting your csm strategy?

Tangiers LeGume
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 - [333]
 

Fun show. Will there be an mp3 available?

Dobbs Head
Hot Coffee Mojo
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 - [334]
 

Edited by: Dobbs Head on 25/06/2011 02:49:49
Edited by: Dobbs Head on 25/06/2011 02:48:23
The type of change that's being talked about sounds more like the willingness to exchange the current player base for a slightly different player base. No one likes change.

I hate comparisons with SWG: NGE due to the fact that many returning players have stated that the NGE actually was more playable, but the fact remains that Sony had possession of a valuable intellectual property that they felt should be performing better. Changes were made. They were willing to gamble the loss of what was their current player base on the hopes of a massive influx of new subscriptions. They lost that gamble.

I wonder if some persons may be adopting a similar mindset in CCP. The mindset that they are willing to gamble the loss of their current player base in order to gain many more subscriptions and much higher revenue from in game sales. The last company that tried this is closing its servers this December.

It's a gamble.

You don't change an MMO with an established player base. You create a NEW game, a new property, a new asset and establish a new base for it.

I hate to say it, but if that letter is real then we're looking at the establishment of New EvE Enhancements.

Fi1ippo
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 - [335]
 

"I JUST HAD SEEEEEEEXXXX AND IT FELT SO GOOOOOOD! A WOMAN LET ME PUT PEN*S INSIDEEE HERRRR"

Chris Liath
Gallente
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 - [336]
 

Why do you have to have a very interesting debate on a time restraint?

Are the crappy 64 kbit/s songs you'd otherwise play that important?

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 - [337]
 

Over 1700 listeners all you guys making the hamsters run overclocked over there at everadio are doing a good job :P

Btw, I bet astov wouldn't mind if you bumped him to keep the show going :P

Wakeland
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:46:00 - [338]
 


52 monocles * 70 bucks = 3640 BUCKS.

Sig Sour
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:46:00 - [339]
 

POWDA KEG!!!




Different kind of kegger for a Friday night

Kerrisone
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:47:00 - [340]
 

Originally by: Dobbs Head
The type of change that's being talked about sounds more like the willingness to exchange the current player base for a slightly different player base. No one likes change.

I hate comparisons with SWG: NGE due to the fact that many returning players have stated that the NGE actually was more playable, but the fact remains that Sony had possession of a valuable intellectual property that they felt should be performing better. Changes were made. They were willing to gamble the loss of what was their current player base on the hopes of a massive influx of new subscriptions. They lost that gamble.

I wonder if some persons may be adopting a similar mindset in CCP. The mindset that they are willing to gamble the loss of their current player base in order to gain many more subscriptions and much higher revenue from in game sales. The last company that tried this is closing its servers this December.

It's a gamble.


With Dust514 and WOD being supported by MT I guess they don't care about the risk or they would have made WOD a sub.

Tangiers LeGume
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:47:00 - [341]
 

Originally by: Wakeland

52 monocles * 70 bucks = 3640 BUCKS.


Say, you can get 3 pairs of jeans for that!

spackles Ibsol
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:47:00 - [342]
 

I think personally, now we know about this email, which is basically telling CCP's customers to "suck it", if people really want to show their displeasure at being treated as children, maybe we should try an organize a mass protest, everyone logs off eve for a week ??

I dont have any illusions that 90% of people would stick to it, but its worthy idea to think on. I personally will be leaving eve after 6+ years over this rmt **** :(. Sad becuase its been my home for such a long time.
\But people need to grow a pair an actually stand by their opinions instead of sounding off with hot air. organize a strike as such for 7 days, see how CCP feel when there's hardly anyone playing??.

Moraguth
Amarr
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:48:00 - [343]
 

i don't know if anyone else has pointed this out but... : the hilmar email was sent 32 hours ago. well before the blog by zulu.

Alexis Sachs
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:48:00 - [344]
 

Originally by: Tangiers LeGume
Originally by: Wakeland

52 monocles * 70 bucks = 3640 BUCKS.


Say, you can get 3 pairs of jeans for that!


Well, 3 pair and maybe what... some gold undies for the remainder?

Ein Spiegel
Minmatar
Fly-by-Night Industries LLC PTY LTD
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:48:00 - [345]
 

Originally by: Dobbs Head
The type of change that's being talked about sounds more like the willingness to exchange the current player base for a slightly different player base. No one likes change.

I hate comparisons with SWG: NGE due to the fact that many returning players have stated that the NGE actually was more playable, but the fact remains that Sony had possession of a valuable intellectual property that they felt should be performing better. Changes were made. They were willing to gamble the loss of what was their current player base on the hopes of a massive influx of new subscriptions. They lost that gamble.

I wonder if some persons may be adopting a similar mindset in CCP. The mindset that they are willing to gamble the loss of their current player base in order to gain many more subscriptions and much higher revenue from in game sales. The last company that tried this is closing its servers this December.

It's a gamble.


Indeed it is. I was there for the whole thing, and I don't think it's really at the "NGE", and yes, the game later was playable under that system, but they could never ever get over the public relations nightmare of the Trials of Obi Wan + NGE + Firing the Community Manager and Smed's amazing brick-walling in the forums of the time.

Dobbs Head
Hot Coffee Mojo
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:49:00 - [346]
 

Originally by: Kerrisone
Originally by: Dobbs Head
The type of change that's being talked about sounds more like the willingness to exchange the current player base for a slightly different player base. No one likes change.

I hate comparisons with SWG: NGE due to the fact that many returning players have stated that the NGE actually was more playable, but the fact remains that Sony had possession of a valuable intellectual property that they felt should be performing better. Changes were made. They were willing to gamble the loss of what was their current player base on the hopes of a massive influx of new subscriptions. They lost that gamble.

I wonder if some persons may be adopting a similar mindset in CCP. The mindset that they are willing to gamble the loss of their current player base in order to gain many more subscriptions and much higher revenue from in game sales. The last company that tried this is closing its servers this December.

It's a gamble.


With Dust514 and WOD being supported by MT I guess they don't care about the risk or they would have made WOD a sub.


Apparently so.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:50:00 - [347]
 

THEY HAD NO IDEA THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH SCORP UNTIL TOLD!

Even after told they wanted to wheazle.

This shows a disconnect, massive disconnect.


Doc Fury
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:50:00 - [348]
 

Edited by: Doc Fury on 25/06/2011 02:59:20
Oh, hell yeah!!!!

<hilmar>

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

</hilmar>

Arcaneidas
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:50:00 - [349]
 

Edited by: Arcaneidas on 25/06/2011 02:51:18


Also getting confirmed reports from the SiSi server that NEX items are DESTROYED when you get podded, because the items are applied to you CURRENT CLONE. Therefore when you get into a new clone, NEX items are not on them.

Beautiful. I mean I don't know how this can get any worse other than another Zulu leaked email saying " all current subscribers have had there bank accounts cleaned out, thanks for giving us your secure information, Sucker--- I mean Capsuleers"

Fun ride though.

Edited for spelling errors

Fi1ippo
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:51:00 - [350]
 

Well, i was starting to like this game too. Guess its going to be a sad end thanks to greedy asses.

Addrake
Minmatar
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:51:00 - [351]
 

I will have to say, at least the new turrets and devoter look pretty.. that and Noctis are FINALLY able to enter gates for the rogue drone 10/10.

<<staring at his turrets while killing monuments.

Anon Forumalt6858
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:51:00 - [352]
 

Originally by: Leil Ren'Do
Mittens, How is this affecting your csm strategy?


Have Mittens answer this before you sign off!

Dobbs Head
Hot Coffee Mojo
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:52:00 - [353]
 

Originally by: Ein Spiegel
Originally by: Dobbs Head
The type of change that's being talked about sounds more like the willingness to exchange the current player base for a slightly different player base. No one likes change.

I hate comparisons with SWG: NGE due to the fact that many returning players have stated that the NGE actually was more playable, but the fact remains that Sony had possession of a valuable intellectual property that they felt should be performing better. Changes were made. They were willing to gamble the loss of what was their current player base on the hopes of a massive influx of new subscriptions. They lost that gamble.

I wonder if some persons may be adopting a similar mindset in CCP. The mindset that they are willing to gamble the loss of their current player base in order to gain many more subscriptions and much higher revenue from in game sales. The last company that tried this is closing its servers this December.

It's a gamble.


Indeed it is. I was there for the whole thing, and I don't think it's really at the "NGE", and yes, the game later was playable under that system, but they could never ever get over the public relations nightmare of the Trials of Obi Wan + NGE + Firing the Community Manager and Smed's amazing brick-walling in the forums of the time.


Yeah, once the damage was done everyone knew to stay away form SWG. Regardless of whether or not it was playable, Sony earned a reputation for betraying and utterly disregarding their player base.

I hate to see CCP go the same route. I don't know if we've started down that road yet, but I have to wonder...

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:52:00 - [354]
 

"We know why"

Hilmar has gone bat**** suicidal crazy?

Tangiers LeGume
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:53:00 - [355]
 

Originally by: Alexis Sachs
Originally by: Tangiers LeGume
Originally by: Wakeland

52 monocles * 70 bucks = 3640 BUCKS.


Say, you can get 3 pairs of jeans for that!


Well, 3 pair and maybe what... some gold undies for the remainder?


Let's not get crazy. Maybe silver, though!

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:53:00 - [356]
 

Honestly I would not be running around trying to snap answer anything really at this point, they need to be very careful how they convey their information now for the next few weeks.

HoboWithAShip
They That Are
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:54:00 - [357]
 


Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:55:00 - [358]
 

There is no question.

He says the same thing he said as his closing statement at fanfest.

Alexis Sachs
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:55:00 - [359]
 

Originally by: Barakkus
Honestly I would not be running around trying to snap answer anything really at this point, they need to be very careful how they convey their information now for the next few weeks.


Perhaps time to hire some Hollywood PR firm for this? I mean, it seems CCP is in need of some serious professionals to come spin this disaster (I mean all of this since Tuesday).

Max Essen
Gallente
Bison Industrial Inc
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:55:00 - [360]
 

Another possible point of view.

Perhaps CCP has gotten immune to the player base "rage quite" threats after every new release (exaggerated for emphasis).

Seems their belief is that either too small a percentage of the player base is chronic complainers or "I'm gonna quit" types and year after year ... we're all still here.


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