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Dak Hallow
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:22:00 - [2641]
 

I have to weigh in on this. I am a small business owner in the US and I have the fortune to do really well. Any leadership blog/book/seminar/etc. you go to/read says that everything rises and falls on leadership. If the company sucks, it's not because of the employees, it's because of the leadership.

1) Aurum should NEVER EVER be used for anything but vanity items if it must be used at all... I think the current market was good enough. Not sure why the hell Aurum sounded like a good idea.

2)Kristoffer T. is a complete ****ing numbnuts. Obviously he either has no concept of reality or he doesn't understand that people aren't made of money. Furthermore he has no effing concept of how a business should be run. Bleeding your customers/clients dry with wreckless abandon just so they can compete?! All so what? You get what a nice hefty bonus at year-end. Get that ****er back to cleaning toilets or emptying garbage and get him out of your leadership, CCP. Everything rises and falls on leadership. This guy is the Iceberg to your Titanic. Get him out, get him out, and all others like him. People who don’t give a flying rats ass about the clients are death in a can to your business.
On the other hand, John T. Should be made the head of PR and Game Design. This guy understands business and how to run it. Put this guy in charge, and things will change for the better. Everything rises and falls on leadership.

3) Having to Pay to win is a cop out for lack of creativity. I’m digging the CQ. It’s a fun gimmick, but it takes forever for my computer to load now. I wish I could switch between CQ and just the regular hangar view. The game goes the slowest for me between jump gates & docking and undocking (and massive fleet battles but that goes without saying). Put developers and money on fixing that stuff and I’ll be stoked. I could care less about Aurum and Vanity stuff.

I bet the people who bought the monocle are rich industrialists with Technet planets who bought 4 plex’s at the drop of a hat and bought it. I doubt any sane person would think $80 is a “good price” for a friggin monocle! A completely aesthetic piece. I would think that any person with half a brain would turn 4 plex’s into 1.5billion+/- isk and buy some sweet crap to fly around in. Ze monocle, it does nussing. I doubt that 52 monocles sold is ANY indication of “good idea” like it has been perceived to be.

Ridiculous. I’m unsubbing until I know if this NeX crap is going to get stupid with paying to win like that bastard Kristoffer thinks it should be. Ignorant prick…

Ni Jien
Gallente
Asgard.
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:24:00 - [2642]
 

Originally by: jedi'master yoda
Originally by: Mordrake
Originally by: Dan Kaneda
Originally by: Da Gooch


Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?



CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.




This... will answere if i keep playing or not
I want all my fellow eve players to quote this and not suggest any other stupid points, this is the only thing that needs a damn answer



This


zoltar pdp
WALLTREIPERS
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:24:00 - [2643]
 

Originally by: Mordrake
Originally by: Dan Kaneda
Originally by: Da Gooch


Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?



CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.



Not reactivating until you give this answer.

I want all my fellow eve players to quote this and not suggest any other stupid points, this is the only thing that needs a damn answer



This

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:28:00 - [2644]
 

Originally by: Lysander Kaldenn

If I was a builder people would pay me to build them houses.

So how many of my clients are going to get excited when I announce that I'm stopping construction on their homes, BUT I be compensating them by supplying free hand-made Hello Kitty dolls.


Here's a subscription business one for ya:

Originally by: Hugh Hefner

"Hey Bunnies, I've got a new idea!

Ok so here it is.

You know Playboy right?
Yeah well I'm going to change it.

We're going to morph it into an 'Interior Design' magazine, same name, same cover, just different inside."

"Will there be girls?"

"Nah it's about tables, curtains and colour schemes."

"oh.... I don't get it....."



James StormRider
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:31:00 - [2645]
 

I remember the days when eve had only 5000 subs it was such a fine start. If those days come again it will make my days in 0.0 space alot less stress full LOL. As for people not wanting to buy the AUR items that will not happen. You may be saying you'll quit and some will but than if you quit where will you complain about the AUR items ??? You will not have forum access or in game chat channel access. And as for the people that say they will never but AUR items they will but they want tell any one LOL. The people that are complaining are the same people that would complain if they were hung with a new rope. So like I said before eve is just a game not real life so enjoy it Razz

Tyrehl
Amarr
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:33:00 - [2646]
 

Originally by: zoltar pdp
Originally by: Mordrake
Originally by: Dan Kaneda
Originally by: Da Gooch


Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?



CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.



Not reactivating until you give this answer.

I want all my fellow eve players to quote this and not suggest any other stupid points, this is the only thing that needs a damn answer



This


QFT. This happens at the best possible time, i was about to start paying for a third account.

Shar Tegral
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:34:00 - [2647]
 

I'm on the 89th page, way back of the bus, and it is unlikely anyone will give a damn about my post let alone read it but it is very simple:

Dear CCP,

We've gone round and round over the past decade. I've been worthy of your contempt at times, worthy of your respect at others, but in all but 4 months since launch I have been a customer of yours. I've not always liked the direction you've taken things and I know that far too many times you (as a group) have been arrogant pricks. But in this community, and with this game, that actually works more often than not.

However it needs to be said that sometimes your cleverness does not pan out in the marketplace. Far too many of your secondary revenue attempts have died stillborn in the cold dark places on the internet. This is seriously going to be another one of those. I fear you overestimate the stupidity of your common populace and underestimate their collective power.

As for myself, I don't need to unsub my accounts. Been coasting on plexes and GTC's for years now. Someone else has paid you for my time, many times over, and I'm just going to not add the next plex time to my accounts. I'll still own them and I will still consider them potential contract - you'll still owe me 30 days of server time for each one and I'll never NEX them so you'll have to give me that 30 days but when I decide to have them.

For now, you can consider this peg knocked out of your house of cards.

DeltaTeam
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:34:00 - [2648]
 

Holy ****, this was just so bad.

Look, as a someone who works in the high management of IT company, I can honestly tell you that your whole vision and perception of your game right now is completely ******ed and if you dont fix your **** now, you are heading down. Very fast.

You didnt even finish the two other games, for which you are sacrificing so much from your core business and you can already tell they wont be any massive bestsellers. You did a series of really bad business decisions and you need to fix this stuff right now or you wont make it out.

Get your head out of your ass and start actually doing something the playerbase wants.

Benteen
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:47:00 - [2649]
 

Originally by: James StormRider
I remember the days when eve had only 5000 subs it was such a fine start. If those days come again it will make my days in 0.0 space alot less stress full LOL. As for people not wanting to buy the AUR items that will not happen. You may be saying you'll quit and some will but than if you quit where will you complain about the AUR items ??? You will not have forum access or in game chat channel access. And as for the people that say they will never but AUR items they will but they want tell any one LOL. The people that are complaining are the same people that would complain if they were hung with a new rope. So like I said before eve is just a game not real life so enjoy it Razz


5000 subs... really... you think EvE will still be running if the numbers drop that low? I don't think so...

Vyncente
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:48:00 - [2650]
 

Edited by: Vyncente on 25/06/2011 21:52:26
Originally by: Shar Tegral
I'm on the 89th page, way back of the bus, and it is unlikely anyone will give a damn about my post let alone read it but....



Hey Shar, the last page is the frontlines...Welcome aboard.

Carli Zandrya
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:50:00 - [2651]
 

#1 rule: STOP THE BLEEDING. THEN fix the problem.

So 89 pages with little or no response speaks volumes on that. Your player base is still bleeding. Badly.

It's not even about the AUR anymore..

Pannari Padecain
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:50:00 - [2652]
 

Originally by: zoltar pdp
Originally by: Mordrake
Originally by: Dan Kaneda
Originally by: Da Gooch


Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?



CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.



Not reactivating until you give this answer.

I want all my fellow eve players to quote this and not suggest any other stupid points, this is the only thing that needs a damn answer



This


Angeliq
Minmatar
Soimii Patriei
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:51:00 - [2653]
 

Originally by: Carli Zandrya
#1 rule: STOP THE BLEEDING. THEN fix the problem.

So 89 pages with little or no response speaks volumes on that. Your player base is still bleeding. Badly.

It's not even about the AUR anymore..


This thread has now 296 pages on the same problem.

Jacob Flint
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:53:00 - [2654]
 

Edited by: Jacob Flint on 25/06/2011 21:55:03
Actually i don't expect much of an answer or reaction until monday...
weekend 'n stuff.. you know...
you've read the mail.. i guess they're all partying .. drinking beer.. havin' a good time ;)
or well.. spending some time with their families..

Nozomi en Tilavine
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:01:00 - [2655]
 

So your are fearless and don't want to reply to us.
I think many of us explain why we don't want NEX.

I hope my unsub and other players will give you CCP a little more fear about your future.


Mr Binkins
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:15:00 - [2656]
 

I'm just gonna put this out there.
Ocular implant should come with an actual implant. Eve is all about the depth and believablity. As for buying ****, I don't care if ppl want to pay 1000$ for a pair of jeans real or in game, that their business, but once you start charging for things with a practical in game function you have to be careful to make it fair. Life may not be fair, but no one wants to play a game that isn't.

Majuan Shuo
Gallente
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:19:00 - [2657]
 

Originally by: Mr Binkins
I'm just gonna put this out there.
Ocular implant should come with an actual implant. Eve is all about the depth and believablity. As for buying ****, I don't care if ppl want to pay 1000$ for a pair of jeans real or in game, that their business, but once you start charging for things with a practical in game function you have to be careful to make it fair. Life may not be fair, but no one wants to play a game that isn't.


+1

Dora Long
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:28:00 - [2658]
 

I think its cute how upset people are getting over this.

Playing Eve
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:32:00 - [2659]
 

Edited by: Playing Eve on 25/06/2011 22:36:23
Originally by: Dak Hallow

1) Aurum should NEVER EVER be used for anything but vanity items if it must be used at all... I think the current market was good enough. Not sure why the hell Aurum sounded like a good idea.



This is an important question, but one the answer to which is becoming more and more obvious.

CCP obviously hopes to move to micro-transaction based game structure. If the game is free to play, then RMT players/bots have much less incentive to bot or RMT. But people have already paid for GTC/PLEX which represents free game time to be redeemed. When the game goes free to play, the PLEX and GTC become worthless to players, but CCP keeps all the money free and clear. Aurum then becomes the method of cash to isk/stuff and PLEX disappear forever. If that is the final objective for CCP, then it makes complete sense to have both Aurum and PLEX now.

Iluminat
Minmatar
Sharp Dressed Man
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:35:00 - [2660]
 

This all looks like a bad episode of Jerry Springer Rolling Eyes
CCP just like Jerry feeds the guest with b*ll**** steps
back and smile to see what happens.

johnny sackomoney
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:37:00 - [2661]
 

i see that they are still following HILMAR's arrogance on this
he thinks he can wait us out

and we will all give in and follow like the rest of the sheep

i got news for him the rest of the sheep will be jumping the fence too and soon

eve players : we want the truth
CCP response :You can't handle the truth

um thanks message recieved loud and clear GOODBYE


M'ktakh
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:38:00 - [2662]
 

Did Liang and Helicity really get banned, even ingame?


Ubumble
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:38:00 - [2663]
 

When the protests in Jita began, I was in the "much ado about nothing" camp. As the situation has unfolded, I have changed to the opposite side.
At best, you (CCP) have shown complete ineptitude at handling the situation. At worst, you have shown utter contempt for the people who pay your salaries.

I won't presume to tell you what do to - it is your company and you can do with it as you please. I would like to add a few thoughts on what you seem not to understand:

1. We (the Eve players) are not a "user group" or "target consumer" in the way that McDonald's customers are
2. There is a difference between a "user group" and a "community" (there is a lot of well-researched documentation on the subject, try reading it)
3. Whoever you paid to do your market research, does not understand the previous points and has not done their homework
4. You may be right to "watch what we do, not what we say" - there are 47k people playing right now - but you may also have no real community left if you continue on this path
5. A brand with a real community is different from a game with a bunch of users
6. You are successful because the relationship between player-game, player-player and player-company is different to other games - will you be successful if you kill that difference?

You choose the environment you want to create. We choose the environment we want to play in.
Your salaries are dependent on the latter. Nuff said.

Asma bint Marwan
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:46:00 - [2664]
 

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?



CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.


Gerard Lebieux
Gallente
Mort's Navy
Mort's Empire
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:48:00 - [2665]
 

I personally encourage those wishing to unsub to do so, perhaps that will free up the forums from your incessant *****ing.

CCP hasnt let me down in the years I've been playing and I trust they will keep the game fun and full of value.

NEO Informant
New Information Trading Corp
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:51:00 - [2666]
 

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Maksiu I
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:51:00 - [2667]
 

Yawn, I've been away for like... 40 pages, did I miss anything? Any CCP response?

Uber Root
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:57:00 - [2668]
 

this blog must be a joke... although this situation aint funny at all...

i think you just dont want to get it... YOU FAILED !!! Evil or Very Mad

Manos Heimenbarger
Posted - 2011.06.25 22:57:00 - [2669]
 

Originally by: Maksiu I
Yawn, I've been away for like... 40 pages, did I miss anything? Any CCP response?


Nope.

johnny sackomoney
Posted - 2011.06.25 23:00:00 - [2670]
 

Originally by: Maksiu I
Yawn, I've been away for like... 40 pages, did I miss anything? Any CCP response?



No response ccp still
stonewalling thinking they can wait us out

and a bunch of trolls not understanding where the hate is coming from

so no you havent missed anything


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