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Slaqer
Posted - 2011.06.25 18:56:00 - [2581]
 

Edited by: Slaqer on 25/06/2011 19:10:04
Quote:
Your subscription fee gives you unlimited access to the EVE Online servers, website, and customer support. Unlike console games where you are purchasing the game as-is, the development of EVE as a persistent world is ongoing with frequent updates to add new features and improve your gameplay experience. Subscriptions allow us to continue making EVE bigger and better as well as paying our staff their monthly wages. CCP does not charge extra for game expansions.


According to the EVE F.A.Q on your website, AUR should never exist. If your own website is deceitful, why should we trust what you say? Just more food for thought.

Frau Klaps
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.25 18:59:00 - [2582]
 

SMOOTH AND SUCCESSFUL AVOIDANCE OF MOST OF THE SERIOUS CONCERNS. GTFO.

ALSO CLOTHES IN REAL LIFE DO NOT COST AS MUCH AS A BATTLESHIP



Xavier Castle
Posted - 2011.06.25 18:59:00 - [2583]
 

Edited by: Xavier Castle on 25/06/2011 19:03:38
That is the worst thing i ever read in a Dev Blog, all CCP did was insult us. Its not us, its you CCP... Its outrageous, all this new content that is out of reach of most of us. You seem to be creating an even bigger "****storm". There are many people like me who never use the forums, who just play peacefully with a few friends... and now i'm forced for the 2nd time in a week to post.

I pay every month for you to run and develop eve online, not for you to develop other games and items that must be bought on top of that.

Nexus Aurelia
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:05:00 - [2584]
 

This still doesn't address the issues I brought up in my subscription cancellation reason, nor does it address the issues brought up in the huge threadnaughts we've had regarding this joke of an "expansion".

It's insulting, the tone is condescending and this devblog should have been left to someone who knows how to interact with their customers rather than just their subordinates.

Do your damn job CCP and get real.

Draconian Arcane
Bastards Of New Eden
Damned Nation
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:05:00 - [2585]
 

This version is terrible, its an outrage... Rabble... Rabble rabble rabble...

Shiv Undano
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:10:00 - [2586]
 

<repeat-mode>
Will you introduce items with a game effect to the shop or will you stick to vanity items as initially stated? YES/NO

zoltar pdp
WALLTREIPERS
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:11:00 - [2587]
 

So that's it? No answer to the main big concerns people is writing in big colored letters?

So sad to see this game go down due to the company behind it not respecting their customers.

Kelnarn Shaelingrath
Caldari
River-Rats in space
The Ditanian Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:14:00 - [2588]
 

Originally by: Amber Villaneous
Originally by: Kelnarn Shaelingrath


I have to agree with this on many levels...
the fact is (as Sabrina so eloquently stated) that a player can in fact buy game changing advantages with an RMT, I.E. buy GTC, convert to plex, sell plex, get uber stuffs....



You apparently do not understand economics on anything other than a very basic level.


While I may be mistaken, that answer/comment leads me to believe that you apparently did not read, understand, or grasp the concept and meaning of my post.

In any case, the response is appreciated nonetheless.

Thanks
K.S.


Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:15:00 - [2589]
 

Originally by: Slaqer
Edited by: Slaqer on 25/06/2011 19:10:04
Quote:
Your subscription fee gives you unlimited access to the EVE Online servers, website, and customer support. Unlike console games where you are purchasing the game as-is, the development of EVE as a persistent world is ongoing with frequent updates to add new features and improve your gameplay experience. Subscriptions allow us to continue making EVE bigger and better as well as paying our staff their monthly wages. CCP does not charge extra for game expansions.


According to the EVE F.A.Q on your website, AUR should never exist. If your own website is deceitful, why should we trust what you say? Just more food for thought.


^^ We all signed up under the implied contract that we pay CCP and they maintain the service.

EULA is bull****, even tries to wieve your right to the UN Convention on Contracts. just lol. Not worth the paper it's not written on.

Claire Shala
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:17:00 - [2590]
 

Originally by: Nishachara
CCP answer this please:

ARE YOU MOVING BEYOND AURUM-FOR-VANITY ITEMS?



So i can know should i continue to play and spend time on your game or not.


I think I can answer that for you.

Selling vanity only items (even at dumb prices) will only net you so much money, not everyone is willing to buy them. The vanity items are also not cheap to design, model and implement, and vanity must be feed and updated continuously. CCP's 6+ month lead time on making 1-2 new models/shirts/accessories would rendered the vanity only NeX store a joke eventually.

The only thing they could sell consistently in NeX is pay-to-win things. After that happens, its just a matter of how fast things go down hill.

But there is more.

The funny thing about most pay-to-win items is they have basically ZERO development cost. Add SP? Probably 10 lines of code to add points to the system already in place. Gold ammo? Take faction ammo, pallet shift the icon, adjust stats and you are done. Same with modules, BPCs and implants.

Vanity ships, or 'custom' paintjobs and logos will take more work, they've been requested forever and now that greed and a cracking whip are in full command, you'll see them very soon.

Pay-to-win items are just too easy, and too (short term) lucrative for the 'Greed is Good' mentality of CCP to pass up.

CCP will not come out and say directly "Yes non-vanity items will be sold." because they are trying to be subtle on this (and only this it seems). String people along, slowly ease 'innocent' pay-to-win items in the store, and hope people are blind enough to not only pay a subscription, but also pay out the nose for items all but required to play the game.

IS CCP moving beyond aurum-for-vanity items? Yes, at full speed.

Greed is Good after all.

Nikolae Varius
Amarr
Mongrel Squad
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:31:00 - [2591]
 

I set CCP Zulu to red standing.

VisKerric
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:33:00 - [2592]
 

Originally by: Claire Shala
Originally by: Nishachara
CCP answer this please:

ARE YOU MOVING BEYOND AURUM-FOR-VANITY ITEMS?



So i can know should i continue to play and spend time on your game or not.


I think I can answer that for you.

Selling vanity only items (even at dumb prices) will only net you so much money, not everyone is willing to buy them. The vanity items are also not cheap to design, model and implement, and vanity must be feed and updated continuously. CCP's 6+ month lead time on making 1-2 new models/shirts/accessories would rendered the vanity only NeX store a joke eventually.

The only thing they could sell consistently in NeX is pay-to-win things. After that happens, its just a matter of how fast things go down hill.

But there is more.

The funny thing about most pay-to-win items is they have basically ZERO development cost. Add SP? Probably 10 lines of code to add points to the system already in place. Gold ammo? Take faction ammo, pallet shift the icon, adjust stats and you are done. Same with modules, BPCs and implants.

Vanity ships, or 'custom' paintjobs and logos will take more work, they've been requested forever and now that greed and a cracking whip are in full command, you'll see them very soon.

Pay-to-win items are just too easy, and too (short term) lucrative for the 'Greed is Good' mentality of CCP to pass up.

CCP will not come out and say directly "Yes non-vanity items will be sold." because they are trying to be subtle on this (and only this it seems). String people along, slowly ease 'innocent' pay-to-win items in the store, and hope people are blind enough to not only pay a subscription, but also pay out the nose for items all but required to play the game.

IS CCP moving beyond aurum-for-vanity items? Yes, at full speed.

Greed is Good after all.



BINGO

Marcus Vorenius
Caldari
Task Force 42
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:34:00 - [2593]
 

Originally by: Nikolae Varius
I set CCP Zulu to red standing.


did that a year ago after the 18-months huh hah

Liberty Belle
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:34:00 - [2594]
 

I would really dislike MTs going into the everyday items that are available through EVE. That said, the EVE economy will either accept it or reject it, just like every other change that has taken place throughout the years.

Why is there such a swell of discontent? Within the next twelve months we are about to be part of an extraordinary evolution of the game both inside and outside. We're seeing the next steps to assuring the game will live on for many more years to come, today, on our consoles. Isn't that what the majority of us want?

Kuroki Meisa Kennedy
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:36:00 - [2595]
 

Why you acting like the nihilists in the big lebowski ccp?

With the new turrets being the dudes car Sad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L2qP-xQ_7o

Fenris Ulfur
Bio Material Inc
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:36:00 - [2596]
 

Couldn't care less about the prices of some clothing items since this is a space ship game and in my mind I don't need a monocle to run my space affairs. Price them as much PLEX as you want I don't care.

I however care that I am forced to either use the new CQ or some rather unimpressive screenshot of a door when docking in a station. I realize that CQ is in its first iteration but frankly its ****. The controls are ****, there is no value in using it and it does not add an ounce of value to my experience of playing the game.
And for the record there is no awe factor in looking at the ships floating in the hangers. My Buzzard looks way better than my Raven for instance.

And thus I have cancelled my subscription (ending 10th of July) and will not be returning until I see some actual improvement of the SPACE aspect of the game. We do not want or need more fluff in the game. We that have been playing since '03 have not been doing so because of the promise of looking at our new leather jackets in a station in a few years.

Don't take it the wrong way though, I look forward to the day when EVE is this whole space opera all-in-one science fiction experience where I can fly a spaceship, manage sov, walk in a station down a shopping street, stop at a bar and do some wagering, take a bounty hunting contract in a scummbarô some where, hop onto a planet and do some FPS and maybe in a station as well.
But you [CCP] have to introduce these things to the player base with more information flow and explain your actions BEFORE we experience them in game. Explain why you do the things you do in an upcoming expansion. Everything you do. Its like when you learn to design a UI you are taught that you, as a designer, can never take it for granted that the user will understand how to use the UI that you design just because you think it is pretty straight forward and in the words of CCP Zulu "the greatest thing since sliced bread".

And never ever ever ever force us to use or do something in a radically different way than we have been used to doing things for the past 8 years just because you want us to [read: CQ]. Give us options.

And now I'm off to play some of the FtP games that have been released on an game platform that shall not be named here. Will be keeping an eye on how CCP tackles the issue (or doesn't).


Nichol Madorii
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:37:00 - [2597]
 

I unsubscribed last night too

Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:37:00 - [2598]
 


Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:38:00 - [2599]
 

Originally by: VisKerric
Originally by: Claire Shala
Originally by: Nishachara
CCP answer this please:

ARE YOU MOVING BEYOND AURUM-FOR-VANITY ITEMS?



So i can know should i continue to play and spend time on your game or not.


I think I can answer that for you.

Selling vanity only items (even at dumb prices) will only net you so much money, not everyone is willing to buy them. The vanity items are also not cheap to design, model and implement, and vanity must be feed and updated continuously. CCP's 6+ month lead time on making 1-2 new models/shirts/accessories would rendered the vanity only NeX store a joke eventually.

The only thing they could sell consistently in NeX is pay-to-win things. After that happens, its just a matter of how fast things go down hill.

But there is more.

The funny thing about most pay-to-win items is they have basically ZERO development cost. Add SP? Probably 10 lines of code to add points to the system already in place. Gold ammo? Take faction ammo, pallet shift the icon, adjust stats and you are done. Same with modules, BPCs and implants.

Vanity ships, or 'custom' paintjobs and logos will take more work, they've been requested forever and now that greed and a cracking whip are in full command, you'll see them very soon.

Pay-to-win items are just too easy, and too (short term) lucrative for the 'Greed is Good' mentality of CCP to pass up.

CCP will not come out and say directly "Yes non-vanity items will be sold." because they are trying to be subtle on this (and only this it seems). String people along, slowly ease 'innocent' pay-to-win items in the store, and hope people are blind enough to not only pay a subscription, but also pay out the nose for items all but required to play the game.

IS CCP moving beyond aurum-for-vanity items? Yes, at full speed.

Greed is Good after all.



BINGO


Non-virtual Reality.

Jade Taisun
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:41:00 - [2600]
 

give in to the mob rule.
beings of logic and understanding crowd up to tare down the castle. No one cares, they only want blood.
CCP, all you might have is less server load, oh and less customers, no biggie, GOUGE THE ONES THAT REMAIN! whew I feel better

Trig Onami
Caldari
Onami Corporation
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:41:00 - [2601]
 

Edited by: Trig Onami on 25/06/2011 19:42:09
Stay Fearless, CCP. Like 42,000 other people, I actually played the game yesterday. I started souping up my Gallente Hottie so she can do some Station interaction in the Future. Look forward to that. I doubt I will ever use the AUR store, but at least it will be there when I am rich again. Maybe for a Stripper Pole... and a Paint Job on my Drake... sounds cool to me.

Obviously some people can't handle the truth. I'm sure that the 5 clothing items on the ISK market will sell some day. Just not today :)

Let's wait it out together.


Altarica
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:42:00 - [2602]
 

CCP Zulu .. YOU MISSED THE WHOLE POINT OF OUR RAGE.

Here are a couple questions for CCP, since a lot of their decisions seem to be based on "metrics" and apparently they have sold 50 monacles in 40 hours (which makes them a success)

1) how many people have turned off the Captains Quarters since Incarna launched ?
2) how many subscriptions have been cancelled since Incana launched ?

I'll purchase a monacle if you tell us.

Rainz D'Wicked
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:46:00 - [2603]
 

Yep cancelled my account as well, 10 day's left My second is plex activated with around 33 day's left to watch and see how things go.

On the upside the new turret animations and whatnot rock, On the downside this aurum store is absurd just to repeat what everybody else has said a couple thousand times now.

Dante Tiesto
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:49:00 - [2604]
 

What abunch of babies you are haha, if you dont like it dont buy it, its THAT easy.
To the people who cansel their acount, have fun dont let the door hit you haha

Kelnarn Shaelingrath
Caldari
River-Rats in space
The Ditanian Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:51:00 - [2605]
 

Originally by: Rainz D'Wicked


On the upside the new turret animations and whatnot rock


Yes, they are quite nice to look at. :)

Abbadon
Caldari
Pukin' Dogs
D0GMA
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:53:00 - [2606]
 

From my chars API:

<createDate>2003-05-07 12:22:00</createDate>

<shaftedbyCCPDate>2011-06-24 all:day</shaftedbyCCPDate>

<mywholealliancecancelsubsDate> TODAY <\mywholealliancecancelsubsDate>


Well, I dont post much on these forums but, quite honestly, enough is enough.

I've been subbed to Eve pretty much from day 1. (2-3 accounts)

I've spent the last few hours staring at the cancel sub screen - trying to grow a pair and actually cancel.

Well I have and so have around 90% of my long time friends in game and in RL. (at a guess somewhere between 40 and 60 accounts)

Unless you (CCP) sort your **** out and start communicating and listening to your customers - we wont be back.

Such a sad day Crying or Very sad

Labelo Blanco
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:53:00 - [2607]
 

$1000 Jeans Rolling Eyes

Way to troll the paying customer.

Dante Tiesto
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:54:00 - [2608]
 

Originally by: Abbadon
From my chars API:

<createDate>2003-05-07 12:22:00</createDate>

<shaftedbyCCPDate>2011-06-24 all:day</shaftedbyCCPDate>

<mywholealliancecancelsubsDate> TODAY <\mywholealliancecancelsubsDate>


Well, I dont post much on these forums but, quite honestly, enough is enough.

I've been subbed to Eve pretty much from day 1. (2-3 accounts)

I've spent the last few hours staring at the cancel sub screen - trying to grow a pair and actually cancel.

Well I have and so have around 90% of my long time friends in game and in RL. (at a guess somewhere between 40 and 60 accounts)

Unless you (CCP) sort your **** out and start communicating and listening to your customers - we wont be back.

Such a sad day Crying or Very sad


plz leave the game plz plz plz

Abbadon
Caldari
Pukin' Dogs
D0GMA
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:56:00 - [2609]
 

Originally by: Dante Tiesto
Originally by: Abbadon
From my chars API:

<createDate>2003-05-07 12:22:00</createDate>

<shaftedbyCCPDate>2011-06-24 all:day</shaftedbyCCPDate>

<mywholealliancecancelsubsDate> TODAY <\mywholealliancecancelsubsDate>


Well, I dont post much on these forums but, quite honestly, enough is enough.

I've been subbed to Eve pretty much from day 1. (2-3 accounts)

I've spent the last few hours staring at the cancel sub screen - trying to grow a pair and actually cancel.

Well I have and so have around 90% of my long time friends in game and in RL. (at a guess somewhere between 40 and 60 accounts)

Unless you (CCP) sort your **** out and start communicating and listening to your customers - we wont be back.

Such a sad day Crying or Very sad


plz leave the game plz plz plz


Please may I ask why you say that?

Benteen
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:57:00 - [2610]
 

Originally by: Abbadon
Originally by: Dante Tiesto
Originally by: Abbadon
From my chars API:

<createDate>2003-05-07 12:22:00</createDate>

<shaftedbyCCPDate>2011-06-24 all:day</shaftedbyCCPDate>

<mywholealliancecancelsubsDate> TODAY <\mywholealliancecancelsubsDate>


Well, I dont post much on these forums but, quite honestly, enough is enough.

I've been subbed to Eve pretty much from day 1. (2-3 accounts)

I've spent the last few hours staring at the cancel sub screen - trying to grow a pair and actually cancel.

Well I have and so have around 90% of my long time friends in game and in RL. (at a guess somewhere between 40 and 60 accounts)

Unless you (CCP) sort your **** out and start communicating and listening to your customers - we wont be back.

Such a sad day Crying or Very sad


plz leave the game plz plz plz


Please may I ask why you say that?


I can answer that... because he's an idiot.


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