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Vaju Katru
Posted - 2011.06.25 08:54:00 - [2251]
 

CCP is playing with fire.

Terianna Eri
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.06.25 08:54:00 - [2252]
 

Originally by: Aesynil
Here's the saddest part of the whole thing...at least for me... etc

While this is a good post and I agree with you completely

i just want to say that your avatar is fcking gorgeous

Oya Mando
Posted - 2011.06.25 08:55:00 - [2253]
 

Egosoft's new X title is right around the corner,ok, it is no mmo, but at least it will sweeten my time.Bye new eden, i liked your community.

Aesynil
Caldari
The Unit...
Posted - 2011.06.25 08:55:00 - [2254]
 

Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Aesynil
Here's the saddest part of the whole thing...at least for me... etc

While this is a good post and I agree with you completely

i just want to say that your avatar is fcking gorgeous


Thank you, I'll tell my fiance you said so, she made it for me :) We actually won an Eve beauty pageant with her <3

Cebraio
Posted - 2011.06.25 08:59:00 - [2255]
 

Fail DevBlog is fail.

After all this rage CCP comes forward with a response that merely says: "Don't blame us for saying this stuff. That ain't fair!"
...and then goes on about Nex prices, which personally I really couldn't care less about and with me many of the old player that leave these days (I'm staying for now).

What a PR disaster.

Lutz Major
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:01:00 - [2256]
 

My god, you even made it worse

Danalee
Minmatar
Allmost Clueless
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:03:00 - [2257]
 

Disgusted.

**** poor excuse of an explanation… And I really wanted to like you guys again.
Guess it won’t happen anymore than?

Sad Sad

Jak Krankle
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:05:00 - [2258]
 

Paying to win is bull****. There's really nothing else that can be said about it. Don't allow us to pay for better ships and weapons. (Somebody mentioned +9 implants, I have to admit that sounds cool. REALLY expensive though.)

Paying to look good, despite everyone having access to the same limited articles of clothing, or ship skins, is perfectly fine. The prices are absolutely insane though.

My main accounts subscription is up on July 7th, between this, and my lack of desire to pay to wait, means I have no intention on spending another $35 for game time. I will continue training my alt so that if in the future you wisen up, I will have her where I want her and be able to return to the game that I actually enjoy.

We as a community have seriously overreacted, but we need you to know that this whole Aurum business, and especially this idea to implement pay-to-win, is complete and utter bull****.

Anyways, I know you people won't be reading this, but I felt I needed to put my word in.
(But if you do can you make this walking around the room stuff voluntary for my last two weeks? I greatly prefer spinning my ship, and this static background sucks.)

--Jak

Full Bird
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:06:00 - [2259]
 

Fearless
The Gordon Gekko Issue


What a stupid movie to emulate your new stratege on, there aren't enough facepalms on the web for you to use.

Guess CCP haven't seen the movie or they would know Bud, wearing a wire to help reduce his sentence, gets Gordon to incriminate himself.


Ragnoroc
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:07:00 - [2260]
 

Quote:

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?







To anyone still asking this question.

Is it not obvious by now that the answer is YES.

Zulu lied to us when he said it was an internal discusion document, lets face it, it was nothing more than mangement PR fluff TELLING the workforce, this is our new vision, this is our new direction, this is what we sold to the share holders!


As to the people who are complaining of egos on here they are much smaller than the egos and arrogance of the architects of this new direction. This comes from the very top of the company.

It is most likely they have already spunked the money from the float or VCs which ever funded this large expansion of what was a small company. They have not delivered anything substantive and they will not or maybe cannot go back to the investors for another round of funding.

The Eve we grew up with from 2003 is dead! They don't want the older players anymore, well maybe the did for a short while, until WoD or Dust hit the market as Eve is still the cash cow, but Eve in it's current form does not conform to the new vision!

The egos here are the upper management and knowing their background we know how big those egos really are!

Eve is DEAD!

Sad really after 8 years, but hey I have got over divorces, relationships, jobs.
Get a life move on nothing left here to see but the sad demise of what was a great game.

Xan Drakov
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:07:00 - [2261]
 

Edited by: Xan Drakov on 25/06/2011 09:12:05
Is that it? Seriously? I really hope that was another attempt at CCP to "buy time while we try to sort things out"TM because, frankly, it should's like you've been at the bottle. Arrogance is poring out of every pore of that post. You've managed to completely miss the opportunity to cool the fires. Well done, good job.

"...we have also defined what it really means to make virtual reality more meaningful than real life when it comes to launching our new virtual goods currency, Aurum." - hilmar. Perhaps you guys really have been at the bottle.

I would offer so constructive criticism, but to be honest really doesn't look like your listening anymore. Monocle-gate rumbles on...

P.S. I really don't think CCP employees should be using words like "sh*tstorm" whether the actions of players warrant it or not. It is SERIOUSLY unprofessional.

Sessym
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:07:00 - [2262]
 

Edited by: Sessym on 25/06/2011 09:08:09
Dear People at CCP and whomever else it may concern.

Let me start off Hilmar's own words:

'God, what have created...'

You have created a universe. You have created a form of entertainment that has touched the lives of hundreds of thousands of people. The 'noise' you see now is not people telling you what you can't do. We know you have good reasons not to listen to that.

This time, in EVE's long history what you should hear is not the whines or cursing, but the pledge of thousands of people who are concerned that the thing that made their lives different and has given them so much happiness over the years will cease to exist.

They are begging you to consider and reconsider your course of action carefully.

After all that's been said and done, it boils down to them being forced out of their way in favor of others that they are not sure even exist. They are, in essence not concerned about themselves. There are a lot of places where they could go.

But where, dare as ask You will go when the choice comes back around and you begin to see how hollow what you have created with blood and tears becomes.

Sessym out.

J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:09:00 - [2263]
 

The hubris and disconnect from the community oozes from every word of this Dev blog like puss and infection from a festering wound. I'm stunned that this is what was put out after the heartfelt apology from CCP Pann and a days worth of rage on the forums and across New Eden. Stunned...just, stunned. Truly a sad moment in Eve's history.

Renkari
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:10:00 - [2264]
 

Edited by: Renkari on 25/06/2011 09:12:35
The ‘fearless’.
Quite a lot of words for saying “we haven’t decided on anything yet”.
I feel sorry for those people who took the flak because I feel it was completely misdirected, and this dev blog proves it.

The pricing.
I keep wondering if the people who came up with this strategy and now with this explanation have actually fired up the eve client even once to see what those ‘privileged possessions’ amount to.

For 90% of those who see your portrait at all that awesome monocle is 5x5 pixels on a tiny picture in local chat. You can’t even see any details unless you directly inspect the character. It’s the same with jackets and t-shirt. And no one can see other clothes beside myself at all. And I personally don’t even want to look at my characters inside the CQ because their faces are completely screwed by horrible lighting. That may have worked in a 3rd person MMO with stunning detailed graphics, but not in EVE of today.
You say it’s designed for the future when we can meet other characters in bars or something? Then why are you aggravating your community now?

And you compare this mess to real-world fashion? That’s completely delusional!

My conclusion
I keep thinking that the guys at CCP who actually read feedback and communicate with CSM have no influence over the overall design of the game, at least not in this case. And those who do have little understanding (or perhaps interest) of what is community thinking. This dev blog, although it explains the pricing, provides little in regards of quite simple questions the community have been asking. So, what was that poor guy assigned to read all those pages of feedback (read rage) for yesterday? All the questions were nicely aggregated at CSM representative blog BTW, that’s exactly what CSM is for.

PS. I’m really sorry to see that picture of WoD MMO in the leaked pdf. It’s world of Darkness, brutal and unpretty, not some kind of emo kids fashion show you seem to take it for.

Faaace
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:12:00 - [2265]
 

Everyone put on your CCP branded rose-tinted glasses and take your CCP approved medication. Then you will see that everything... is... fine...

/zombie

Jim Lovell
Gallente
Divine Power.
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:13:00 - [2266]
 

lol seriously what is wrong with you people a in station store for items ONLY for use inside the station and your all heartbrokenly communicating that after 7 years of dedicated loyalty this unspeakble crime against my eEgo i am ahving to i wont be renewing my sub ...pause for dramatic community change* i just dont understand why its so bad it ISNT stfu and stop worying over nothing you wont be able to buy a titan with a visa card ffs !

Shocked

Zey Nadar
Gallente
Unknown Soldiers
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:16:00 - [2267]
 

"remember that we are talking about clothes"

No we are not, we are talking about couple crappy textures in a badly implemented resourcehog.

Georgiy Giggle
The Sith Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:17:00 - [2268]
 

I'm realy glad for such prices.
Or make them HIGHER!!!

I hope that there will be no one idiot who will buy those items. And then i hope this ****y idea with donatable currency will die aswell. Remove microtransactions!

GIVE US CLOTHES FOR ISK ONLY!

Zey Nadar
Gallente
Unknown Soldiers
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:19:00 - [2269]
 

Originally by: Jim Lovell
you wont be able to buy a titan with a visa card ffs !

Shocked


You already can..

Adrian Dixon
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:20:00 - [2270]
 

After reading Zulu's devblog and Hilmars email both utterly out of touch with reality and hold contempt for the communtiy. I will not renew my subscription when it runs out. Between now and then I will protest all day every day in the trade hubs.

CCP have stopped listening to the comunity and stopped leading the industry, they have lowered their standards by including Micro-transactions. "If every other developer is doing microtransactions cant cant CCP" well that is no way to set your standards.

Before this episode I could recomend EVE to any one, now I could not recomend this carbon copy microtransaction game.

Himar's Email
http://www.evenews24.com/2011/06/25/ccp-hilmar-global-email-shows-the-reasoning-behind-ccp-zulu-devblog/

Onyx Blackman
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:20:00 - [2271]
 

Originally by: Jim Lovell
lol seriously what is wrong with you people a in station store for items ONLY for use inside the station and your all heartbrokenly communicating that after 7 years of dedicated loyalty this unspeakble crime against my eEgo i am ahving to i wont be renewing my sub ...pause for dramatic community change* i just dont understand why its so bad it ISNT stfu and stop worying over nothing you wont be able to buy a titan with a visa card ffs !

Shocked


Most people are not upset over vanity items, I don't know how you're getting that impression. It's the complete sidestepping of the issue of non-vanity MTs. It's been asked over and over, complete with CCP Meridian stating that he cannot answer questions in regards to it, insinuating that it would be addressed in the dev blog. It was not.

They know it is a concern, but they are ignoring it. This is why people are angry.

Glaso Fruixette
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:24:00 - [2272]
 

What we want is simple:

1)Honest responses to our questions (the one in yellow in particular)
2)Excuses for the pathetic devblog
3)CCP Zulu's head

Toramaline
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:25:00 - [2273]
 

After 7 years of playing EvE and loving Every moment of it, getting excited in the early years when 12k of people had 'actually' logged on at any one time, keeping at least 2 toons running at all times and putting up with updates that 'improved' (then crashed) the game I seriously question an update that now causes my laptop to overheat and die (this has happened twice now) and a graphical update that slows my pc to 1 frame every 3 seconds.

Well CCP you may just have lost a long term player unless I can find a way to stop my pc dieing, fighters V has been put on just in case I can 'fix' the issue you have created but until then eve login will be kept to an absolute minimum and possibly only up to my next payment time.

Tor.
Sad

Kentren
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:27:00 - [2274]
 

Originally by: CCP Zulu
Hey all. To clarify this blog, its intent was to address two topics and two topics only;

1. What Fearless is and the nature of its content
2. The pricing strategy behind the NeX store

I do realize there are other concerns you have and those will be addressed, but doing it all at the same time would make the messaging tricky and muddled and not allow for a focused discussion. I understand a lot of the frustration going around but if we want to discuss then we need to do so in a constructive and focused manner.

Thanks,
Arnar


OOO again a CCP employee pops up when he might be better spent elsewhere. . .

Takumi Shinano
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:27:00 - [2275]
 

Don't go for Zulu's head, poor bugger probably typed in almost exactly what he was told to, either that or he submitted it for vetting and had it neutered.

Hilmar, now. That's another story.

(Neither Mister_Eon or his alter-ego Takumi Shinano advocate the use of violence, threat of violence, suggestion of violence or mention of violence, whether real or imaginary in response to game dramaz)

Teako
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:28:00 - [2276]
 

Edited by: Teako on 25/06/2011 09:29:33
€€P just got tired of being a company I guess.

Georgiy Giggle
The Sith Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:31:00 - [2277]
 

Edited by: Georgiy Giggle on 25/06/2011 09:35:15
Edited by: Georgiy Giggle on 25/06/2011 09:33:01
Edited by: Georgiy Giggle on 25/06/2011 09:32:06
Originally by: Adrian Dixon
CCP have stopped listening to the comunity and stopped leading the industry, they have lowered their standards by including Micro-transactions.

Before this episode I could recomend EVE to any one, now I could not recomend this carbon copy microtransaction game.


+1
Public vote was ingored:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1395464&page=1
(yes, i've already told that and will keep doing it till microtransactions are removed)

Before today i recomended eve to bigger part of my friends. Now, to nobody, cuz i'm on a way to rid of eve online.

EDIT: Added link.

Elf Stinger
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:35:00 - [2278]
 

Edited by: Elf Stinger on 25/06/2011 09:35:48
ITs Over ! i am out of this game!

Kentren
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:35:00 - [2279]
 

I am out for the entire companies head every last one of them.

Minty Spidersauce
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:36:00 - [2280]
 

Just changed my two annual accounts (which are about to renew) to monthly accounts. If non-vanity items starting being sold, that is the end.


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