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Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 - [1921]
 

Originally by: Alley Specter
sent by hilmar to ccp global list-

(strt)

We live in interesting times; in fact CCP is the kind of company that if things get repetitive we instinctively crank it up a notch. That, we certainly have done this week. First of we have Incarna, an amazing technological and artistic achievement. A vision from years ago realized to a point that no one could have imaged but a few months ago. It rolls out without a hitch, is in some cases faster than what we had before, this is the pinnacle of professional achievement. For all the noise in the channel we should all stand proud, years from now this is what people will remember.

But we have done more, not only have we redefined the production quality one can apply to virtual worlds with the beautiful Incarna but we have also defined what it really means to make virtual reality more meaningful than real life when it comes to launching our new virtual goods currency, Aurum.

Naturally, we have caught the attention of the world. Only a few weeks ago we revealed more information about DUST 514 and now we have done it again by committing to our core purpose as a company by redefining assumptions. After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.

This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit
presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.

Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.

We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable. That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected.

All that said, I couldn’t be prouder of what we have accomplished as a company, changing the world is hard and we are doing it as so many times before! Stay the course, we have done this many times before.

(end)

All I have to say is

GG CCP, GG


This CANNOT be real...it beggars belief

Baillif
AQUILA INC
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 - [1922]
 

Sooo CCP...

How's this for calling you out on your bull**** ?

Indy Rider
Amarr
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:34:00 - [1923]
 

Honestly, I'm just stumped.

Good bye eve.

Qwyp
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:34:00 - [1924]
 

YAY!!!

Less lag when people quit


hahaha

resubbed my 2 other alts


HoboWithAShip
They That Are
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:34:00 - [1925]
 


DavidJayder
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:35:00 - [1926]
 

Wow. If that email is real i'm done.

Nin Kimrov
Minmatar
Kenzi Arms and Munitions
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:36:00 - [1927]
 

Sorry, but nothing can save EvE online now.

Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:37:00 - [1928]
 

The voice of 52 people who bought monocles is more valuable then thousands of other players

DoPlanet
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 - [1929]
 

Originally by: HoboWithAShip

Link to the article on the supposed leaked e-mail from Hilmar on evenews24.com




i get a 504 Gateway Time-out error.

Ivbeen Cloned
Caldari
Formidable Ops
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 - [1930]
 

Originally by: Bloodpetal
The voice of 52 people who bought monocles is more valuable then thousands of other players


Yeah, that part doesn't quite make sense to me. If the email is real, which it seems to be, I think I'll be done with eve and cancel my accounts. I'll wait to see how this plays out over the next few days.

Indy Rider
Amarr
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 - [1931]
 

http://bit.ly/jzWSV2

Mirror.

HoboWithAShip
They That Are
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 - [1932]
 

Originally by: DoPlanet
Originally by: HoboWithAShip

Link to the article on the supposed leaked e-mail from Hilmar on evenews24.com




i get a 504 Gateway Time-out error.



Yeah, the evenews24 sever is overloaded.

Natalie Cerulean
Caldari
Arekin Piggy Bank
Arekin Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:40:00 - [1933]
 

Keep trying, they are under heavy load you'll get it eventually.

Zarnak Wulf
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:40:00 - [1934]
 

That e-mail is about staying the course with vanity pricing. Period.

Winning Side
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:40:00 - [1935]
 

Edited by: Winning Side on 25/06/2011 02:41:06
http://www.machine9.net/blog/?p=615
Mirror

Baihuigau
Gallente
Skull Brigade
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:41:00 - [1936]
 

Eve24 buckled under the traffic by the way.

Bob Machugina
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:41:00 - [1937]
 

52 people have more money then sense.

Arrenslew
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:41:00 - [1938]
 

Here's the whole article copied

After receiving this email 24 hours ago, I held it up and classified as a troll in **********.com foreplay, which is where a some of our intel gets validated. I refused to believe this email was real, but evidence, confirmation from several sources including agents with very close ties with CCP has confirmed it, I refused to believe it veracity.

After reading the CCP Zulu release, we broke down as we became aware of the similar direction between the CCP DevLog and this “leaked email”, we decided to calm down and post this after heavily consulting advisors, ex-game developers and well informed EVE online players.

The email to which we hold no authorship, editing, nor claim to be true based on the fact that we are still in denial/shock even a day after, we are assured to have the “Hilmar” writing style, no-one before other than the original source of our leak reffered to the newsletter as ‘fearless’ and the content of the email certainly goes inline with the poorly received DevBlog message CCP Zulu expressed.

We Do not claim the veracity of this email it came to us via a Drop Box (just as the newsletter), yet the evidence has been mounting all day as we keep digging around and other clues has been pooping up or keep in mind that maybe we Eve News24 are being peons to the well planned machinations of persons willing to destroy CCP.

Said this, Read It and Make Your Own Conclusions.


— Email Starts—-

Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:16:54 -0400
To: riverini@gmail.com
Subject: ccp ceo global msg sent today
From: evewatch@hush.com
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”UTF-8″
Message-Id: <20110623221654.CF1E76F438@smtp.hushmail.com>

sent by hilmar to ccp global list-

(strt)

We live in interesting times; in fact CCP is the kind of company that if things get repetitive we instinctively crank it up a notch. That, we certainly have done this week. First of we have Incarna, an amazing technological and artistic achievement. A vision from years ago realized to a point that no one could have imaged but a few months ago. It rolls out without a hitch, is in some cases faster than what we had before, this is the pinnacle of professional achievement. For all the noise in the channel we should all stand proud, years from now this is what people will remember.

But we have done more, not only have we redefined the production quality one can apply to virtual worlds with the beautiful Incarna but we have also defined what it really means to make virtual reality more meaningful than real life when it comes to launching our new virtual goods currency, Aurum.

Naturally, we have caught the attention of the world. Only a few weeks ago we revealed more information about DUST 514 and now we have done it again by committing to our core purpose as a company by redefining assumptions. After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.

This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit
presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.

Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.

Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:42:00 - [1939]
 

Originally by: Nin Kimrov
Sorry, but nothing can save EvE online now.


this, unfortunatelyCrying or Very sad

Trader Hansen
Failure Assured
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:42:00 - [1940]
 

So, CCP is actually defending their pricing on vanity items? And with a ****ty, flawed anology to real life prices on clothing? W... T... F...?

I, for one, don't give a damn about these vanity items. But even I can't ignore the sheer absurdity of their pricing. Look at any other MMO that has microtransactions and you'll usually find that prices are reasonable.

This is not.

I hate to sound like every other the-end-is-nigh doomsayers on here, and I've certainly done my fair share of *****ing and moaning about CCP over my 6 odd years of playing EVE. But ****-damn. This is definitely the first of what will be many death wails, and CCP isn't even apologetic about it.

Zephy Russ
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:44:00 - [1941]
 

Quote:
We Do not claim the veracity of this email it came to us via a Drop Box (just as the newsletter), yet the evidence has been mounting all day as we keep digging around and other clues has been pooping up or keep in mind that maybe we Eve News24 are being peons to the well planned machinations of persons willing to destroy CCP.


Be careful. This sums it up pretty well.

Arrenslew
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:44:00 - [1942]
 

We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable. That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected.

All that said, I couldn’t be prouder of what we have accomplished as a company, changing the world is hard and we are doing it as so many times before! Stay the course, we have done this many times before.

(end)

R

Chrysanthemum Korik
Monocles Of Death
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:44:00 - [1943]
 

Edited by: Chrysanthemum Korik on 25/06/2011 02:45:54
Originally by: HoboWithAShip

Link to the article on the supposed leaked e-mail from Hilmar on evenews24.com




If true he's essentially saying if they don't quit we can do whatever we want to them. "we look at what our players do and less of what they say."Shocked

Cors
It's A Trap
It's A Trap Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 - [1944]
 

microtransaction

English

Etymology

micro- +‎ transaction
Noun

microtransaction (plural microtransactions)

(economics) A transaction for a very small amount of money (a micropayment).


I have 4 account.

NONE of them will be buying your aurum(WTH it's called, Gold) to convert to virtual clothing. Why? It has no purpose. NONE. Vanity. Won't make my ship go faster.

If you want to see WHY so many folks are ****ed off, go play City of Hero's.

THAT's how player clothing is done.

A few dollars a weapon? One thing. For clothing? Something that should be FREE and available to all! Fine. But 70-80$ for ANYTHING in game is nuts.

I'm just shaking my head. All the man hours, money, art resources you guys are spending on your "microtransactions"(Which arn't) that will only be used by a few dozen of the richest people in game? You could have spent those resources on stuff EVERY player in game will enjoy.

Thanks for taking the money we pay for our subs and using it to the best effect.. bravo.

Gwen'efer
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 - [1945]
 

i happen to live in one of the richest countries on this planet and i don't know anyone who wears 1000$ pants. sounds more like you guys wanna wear those pants and want us to pay for them... ba-bling ba-bling.

Janus Talmash
Talmash Imports and Exports Group
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 - [1946]
 

Listening to EVE-radio and having read the mail;

Zulu nor Soundwave are to blame or should be "attacked" over what they've been stating lately. They simply have to talk the corporate talk, nothing more. It's truly disheartening and depressing and I do apologise to both of them for my words aimed at them, even though they were "mild".

Tbone
Caldari
Dashavatara
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:46:00 - [1947]
 

Wow, I feel like after 8 years of eve i just got flipped the bird by CCP.

I really can not believe you think that low of the community that has kept this game going for 8+ years.

Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:47:00 - [1948]
 

Originally by: Zarnak Wulf
That e-mail is about staying the course with vanity pricing. Period.


This email is about CCP stating in very clear terms to the player community:

**** you all.

Kewso
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:48:00 - [1949]
 

Breaking News

EA Games has purchased CCP Games and has merged it with Mythic Entertainment & Bioware


lulz


Gelbin Mekkatorque
Posted - 2011.06.25 02:48:00 - [1950]
 

Originally by: Zarnak Wulf
That e-mail is about staying the course with vanity pricing. Period.


This.
I didn't see anything about non-vanity items.
CCP can charge whatever they want for vanity stuff as far as I'm concerned. It won't affect me.


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