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Playing Eve
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:06:00 - [1561]
 

Edited by: Playing Eve on 25/06/2011 00:07:15
Originally by: Shuu Naifu

Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them?

I can tell you now what the vast majority of players have to say about the people whose characters are wearing these clothes. They think they're stupid. They think they are gullible, mindless twits for bending to these prices. Not only that, but there are widespread plans to gank these players.

People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes.


I am one of the players excited about Incarna. CQ is a little disappointing, but there is still potential for awesomeness. That said CCP's responses today leave me wondering about their vision for Incarna. We are told, and I believe, that Incarna will be great for immersion. However, at the moment, with CQ, the only way to really "get into" Incarna content is through avatar customization, and you really botched it. You want to people to be excited about Incarna and CQ, but then you post that customizing your avatar should be like buying $1000 pants and having everyone laugh at you and consider you a fool or worse.

Sure, you say there will more NeX stuff that will be cheaper, but you really missed your chance here, big time. Even for a beta, the number of items was too few. If you really want NeX and Incarna to be desirable, you'll eventually want 1000+ items in there ranging in price from Free to around US$5 or so. For a beta, there should have been 50-100 in that price range. Why free? To get people in the NeX door. "Where'd you get those cool shades?" "Free at the NeX!" Then they go in and see these other shades for just a dollar. Now and after Zulu's blogpost no one even wants to go to NeX or be seen wearing something from it.

Instead of sparking interest in avatar customization, you've killed it.


(Lack of other complaints in this post does not imply that I don't have any others.)

Kovorix
Matari Exodus
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:06:00 - [1562]
 

Edited by: Kovorix on 25/06/2011 00:06:39
Originally by: Hieronymus Alexandre
Posting just to do my part to keep these complaints from being dismissed as a "vocal minority." I've been around long enough to see many vocal minorities and none of them came close to this.


Posting to do the same - I'm not exactly furious but I also don't want to see this pushed under the rug. I also unsubbed and have 22 days left, I will give CCP that much time to fix this but if they remain silent I will not renew.

Katra Novac
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:07:00 - [1563]
 

Originally by: Alexis Sachs
Edited by: Alexis Sachs on 24/06/2011 23:58:46
Originally by: Katra Novac
Originally by: Bieber Fever
Clearly the best PR is to insult the customer and address no issues.


They know people have invested a lot of time in their characters and would be reluctant to leave.

Doubt you'll hear much until Monday now and by that time they'll be hoping that much of the anger has exhausted itself.

Items that give advantages are coming, why because they could easily have cleared up this mess if they wised to do so by answering that question and they've had plenty of time to do so.

Also the timing of this thread was deliberate so that you'll wear yourself out debating it in this thread so that by Monday hopefully you care less about it.


Items that give advantages generally sell better than just plain cosmetics ones, we call it greed they'll just say that's business.


Agreed, but my anger is not going to magically vanish over the weekend.

And you know what, as I said in the 200+ monster thread I kinda feel this is an all hands on deck situation. Screw your weekend plans CCP people - damage control mode is ON! This is not the time to hole up in your 1k jeans being elite and :awesome:



Your anger won't go away but time usually reduces it.

They're playing games with us atm, kind of a form of cc.

Lynn Deniera
Caldari
The Foreign Legion
The Remnant Legion
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:07:00 - [1564]
 

Talk about an insulting devblog...

EmmaHezzaRaea
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:08:00 - [1565]
 

You know...if you'd have just stuck to vanity items and lowered the prices you could have made money hand over fist. Hell...you could have sold paint jobs from existing ship models and people would have paid a small fee for that. Roden Shipyards Megathron paintjob anyone? Maybe you like the way the paintjob on the Widow and you'd like it on your Navy Issue Scorpion? Want to paint your Golem up like a regular Raven to throw potential gankers off? You wouldn't have even had to do any design work...but No...you just went balls deep full ****** and completely jumped off the deep end.

You are just OUT OF YOUR MINDS if you think people are going to pay 68 bucks for a gray skirt or a monacle that makes it look like your toon has a butthole on his skull. In THIS economy (HI...you do live on this ACTUAL planet right...EARTH I mean...the Earth of REALITY?) most people won't and a lot CAN'T pay that for REAL skirts and pants! People are struggling these days if you hadn't noticed...unless iceland is just immune from everything that's going on in the world.

Even so...I can ignore your ridiculous unrealistic ideas of pricing on your stupid toon bling (given the choice...I'd rather wear a dreadnaught for that much money) because I can simply choose not to buy it and at those prices it isn't a hard choice.

As for your dev blog - complete crap and NO...I hate to dash your HOPES but you did NOT answer ANYBODY'S questions or concerns...go straight to jail and do not pass go.

The "Let's pretend we didn't see the question 5,000 times in the threadnaught and maybe they'll stop asking" tactic is NOT GOING TO WORK.

Stop jerking us around and trying to gloss over the real issues!

And you better do it fast because your bleeding subs and I know of at least 5 you're gonna lose REAL soon if you don't.

-Ryan

Talsha Talamar
Amarr
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Nebula Rasa
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:08:00 - [1566]
 

Originally by: zulupark
successful expansion


So you are calling an expansion, that raises ragenaughts with 6000+ posts and >500.000 views successfull ?
Damn D-Day was really a victory for the Germans then...




Lord Khelben
Amarr
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:08:00 - [1567]
 

Zulu, I've already seen others link this article, but I'm going to link it as well so as to increase visibility and perhaps actually get someone at CCP to read it. Seriously, read it. It's articulate, intelligent, and fully explores the "s.h.i.t.storm" you mentioned in your recent post.

Here are my own views.

Originally by: CCP Zulu
- which by the way is one of our more smooth and successful expansions...


Do you play EVE?

Incarna is not a successful expansion. It sucks. It's buggy as hell, and shipped with well documented bugs that you ignored. Please fix it, and please start playing EVE so you actually know what you are talking about in the future.

You say:
Originally by: CCP Zulu
I hope I‘ve addressed your concerns and cleared up a lot of the issues you‘re having.


But then when people point out that you didn't address anything whatsoever you say:
Originally by: CCP Zulu
To clarify this blog, its intent was to address two topics and two topics only;


So which is it? Are you or aren't you talking about the elephant in the room as you said in your own words? Or are you confused, thinking that the issue is about what Fearless is? Because I assure you, nobody cares about what Fearless is or isn't. Stop trying to divert the discussion from what's really important.

Originally by: CCP Zulu
doing it all at the same time would make the messaging tricky and muddled and not allow for a focused discussion. I understand a lot of the frustration going around but if we want to discuss then we need to do so in a constructive and focused manner.


Those elusive "constructive and focused" conversations you crave happen all the time in the forums you operate. You should try using your own tools to your advantage. What's stopping you from initiating a focused conversation in the forums?

Finally, an observation.

CCP, as a business, has a relationship with its customers. Like all relationships, it is based on trust and communication. What you are seeing now, as a result of your incapability to maintain trust attributed to your mal-intent, incompetence, and/or apathy, compounded with your extremely poor communication skills, is this: your customers are, in effect, filing for divorce and taking the kids with them. This is exactly what is to be expected in any kind of relationship, be it a marriage or a business, when you continually say one thing but do another; when say you appreciate and listen to feedback but repeatedly prove otherwise with your actions; when you carelessly do things that have drastic effects without talking about it first; and then, at the end of it all, when the yelling and shouting has commenced, are clearly more concerned about your wounded ego than the problems that have stacked up leading to all of this in the first place.

What did you think was going to happen? You've time and time again said "we won't do game-affecting microtransactions" and then we caught you looking at it. You aren't even supposed to be looking at it. The fact that you have a history of not communicating, ignoring feedback, and using TQ as a test-bed for things when you have a perfectly capable test server to do that for you, heavily weighs in on why your customers are finally fed-up. This isn't your first time, and based on your track record, it won't be the last. That is exactly why hostilities are so high.

I imagine that if you had a great track record of taking in feedback from your customers, actually listening to them, implementing it well, and testing features well on a test server before deployment, this kind of "oops" wouldn't be a big deal.

But it is.

Because it's coming from you.

Now sack up, grow a pair, and admit that you can do better and will do better.

And then prove it or more people will "reset" CCP in their personal standings.

Akira Zendragon
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:08:00 - [1568]
 

(Full post here: http://pastie.org/pastes/2118574)

'Evening CCP Zulu and everyone else,

After I read the Dev Blog just posted I was quite ****ed off, but I've gone and had a quiet smoke in the meantime...

Here's what I'd like to say about the Dev Blog and all the stuff that's been going on here:

- Your customers are concerned about several things, but one above all: "Are you moving beyond vanity MT items?". If you had to address ONE concern, this was it, and I believe addressing it in an honest and forthcoming manner would have greatly contributed to defusing this situation.

- Instead, you open your blog by saying "[...]Incarna - which by the way is one of our more smooth and successful expansions, not to mention absolutely gorgeous". Can you honestly say that in good consciousness, after all the reports of overheating, bad performance, patching issues, etc? It immediately sets the wrong tone, and tone is a big thing in such a tense situation.

- You then address the newsletter, but miss, or avoid, the elephant in the room, which is CCP's plans for EVE regarding microtransactions. This is akin to throwing gasoline on the already raging fire. It addressed no actual concern of the players (and let me hit this key again: the paying customers).

- Finally you address the NeX pricing concerns by using a metaphor which is completely inadequate, because we are dealing with purely virtual goods. CCP has yet to present any sort of realistic explanation for these prices, which are completely out of sync with the rest of the industry. The overall image you transmit here is one of snobbery or dellusion, depending on the reader.

- Overall the Dev Blog ends up sending the wrong message. CCP comes out, again depending on the reader, as either tremendously arrogant towards is paying customers, or dellusional and disconnected from reality. Either way, the only reaction that one could legitimately expect from this is a further escalation in tension, protest and rage.

As someone said in one of these threads: Perception is Reality.
Right now the perception of CCP is one of of arrogance, greed and even outright incompetence. Players are feeling exploited like cash-cows and completely disrespected. You might legitimately find that the situation does not warrant all of this rage. But you have perfect information about CCPs plans. You may thing a lot of this is misread by players or due to miscommunication. We do not have all the information regarding the issues we are concerned about, so our perception is our reality, however unjust it may actually be to you or to CCP.

CCP's image and reputation have taken a tremendous amount of damage in these past days, and so far, the actions of CCP representatives have done little to heal that damage, and quite a bit to aggravate it and the community. Honestly you should have gagged all CCP staff on twitter and a tighter control on what they say on the forums, because there have been a few rather unfortunate comments here and on twitter that only made things worse.

The bans, while likely 100% within the rules, EULA and TOS, were fuel to the fire. Would it not have been better to stay the ban-hammer for a few days and then deal with those situations quietly and after this storm passed? CCP wrote the rules, there is probably enough latitude in the enforcement of those same rules to allow for tact in a delicate situation.

(Continues...)

Ubiquitous Newt
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:09:00 - [1569]
 

...you know what? I'm putting my money where my attitude is - I just canceled my subscription, specifically over this dev post. Terrible, terrible unprofessionalism like this shouldn't go unpunished.

Paid my $15: saw your new content & wasn't impressed, mined some 'roids, ran some missions & found a wormhole, CONCORDed some .5 PC pirates, and sat around wishing I had a corp big enough to see much of 0.0 space. Four days into my re-subscription, I think I've done all the important stuff. The main things to do now are all grinding. Yuck.

I want to reiterate - your expansion is lame and processor hogging, your MT idea blows, and I'm specifically canceling, right now, because of this dev post. ...Don't ever think that we won't put our money where our mouths are, because we will.


ISquishWorms
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:09:00 - [1570]
 

Seriously guys just unsub its not worth the time arguing with them anymore its CCP's way or the highway. I choose the highway good game CCP you win.

Quite frankly CCP I find your dev blog insulting I have never owned and can not afford to own $1000 jeans maybe you can? Also in that leaked internal newsletter it is clear you see us all as small money banks (not human begins) willing to give to your cause its disgusting and you have the audacity to moan about some of us dragging certain CCP individuals through the mud. You seem to also think it is ok to mislead and lie to people as well. Oh I get it is one rule for you and another for your customers.

Goodbye CCP such a shame really it had to get to this.

Khaed Duhn
Minmatar
The Kairos Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:09:00 - [1571]
 

As with many people here I have been playing for years and only recently started posting during this time of crazy, and I have to say that if this is the reaction we're getting please remind me exactly why should I waste my spare time and money on CCP as a company ?

As a side note the personal attacks and general over the top arsehattery is in no way justified under any circumstances, bar maybe a CCP Dev breaking into my house to eat my babies and sexify my breathing holes with a Cthulhu themed sex toy.

Back on topic though that Dev post can best be described as smug and clueless, I've always had a soft spot for the general good humour of Eve Devs please for god's sake don't kill that in the face. I've already had to own up to Santa not being real this year; to loose my love for Eve Devs too in the same year I may end up doing something stupid like going off to play WoW, and you don't want that on your conscience now do you ?.




Gurgeh Morat
Gallente
7th Interval
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:09:00 - [1572]
 

Originally by: Katra Novac

Your anger won't go away but time usually reduces it.

They're playing games with us atm, kind of a form of cc.


QFT: Exactly what they are relying on.

DO NOT LOGIN if you disagree with non vanity MT

Llambda
Space Llama Industries
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:09:00 - [1573]
 

Originally by: Demon Azrakel
I may be wrong, but I think I just read CCP Zulu telling the playerbase to go **** itself...


That was pretty much what I took away from it.

Persephone 66
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:10:00 - [1574]
 

Quote:
People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes. Look at the clothes you are currently wearing in real life. Do you have any specific brands? Did you choose it because it was better quality than a no-name brand? Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don't need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don't need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are.


Who are you kidding here? Really? How stupid do you think anyone reading this is?

Comparatively speaking, in game you have people wearing outfits that cost more than their fully pimped out and customized luxury car of choice. Not exactly an accurate reflection of reality. Also, in reality, we have sewing machines. So if you want to bring reality in to this, where's my sewing machine? I can make battlecruisers, why can I not make pants?

Moving on, you have an accessory, a ****ing monocle, that would cost me 4 plex to make the Aurum to purchase it. That's 60 US ****ING DOLLARS!!!! That's the cost of a new game. A WHOLE ****ING GAME!!!! NOT SOME BULL**** ****ING IN GAME VANITY ITEM THAT PROVIDES NO ADVANTAGE.

Epic fail, CCP, epic fail.

niroshido
Caldari
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:10:00 - [1575]
 

Originally by: EmmaHezzaRaea
You know...if you'd have just stuck to vanity items and lowered the prices you could have made money hand over fist. Hell...you could have sold paint jobs from existing ship models and people would have paid a small fee for that. Roden Shipyards Megathron paintjob anyone? Maybe you like the way the paintjob on the Widow and you'd like it on your Navy Issue Scorpion? Want to paint your Golem up like a regular Raven to throw potential gankers off? You wouldn't have even had to do any design work...but No...you just went balls deep full ****** and completely jumped off the deep end.

You are just OUT OF YOUR MINDS if you think people are going to pay 68 bucks for a gray skirt or a monacle that makes it look like your toon has a butthole on his skull. In THIS economy (HI...you do live on this ACTUAL planet right...EARTH I mean...the Earth of REALITY?) most people won't and a lot CAN'T pay that for REAL skirts and pants! People are struggling these days if you hadn't noticed...unless iceland is just immune from everything that's going on in the world.

Even so...I can ignore your ridiculous unrealistic ideas of pricing on your stupid toon bling (given the choice...I'd rather wear a dreadnaught for that much money) because I can simply choose not to buy it and at those prices it isn't a hard choice.

As for your dev blog - complete crap and NO...I hate to dash your HOPES but you did NOT answer ANYBODY'S questions or concerns...go straight to jail and do not pass go.

The "Let's pretend we didn't see the question 5,000 times in the threadnaught and maybe they'll stop asking" tactic is NOT GOING TO WORK.

Stop jerking us around and trying to gloss over the real issues!

And you better do it fast because your bleeding subs and I know of at least 5 you're gonna lose REAL soon if you don't.

-Ryan


soon enough they will be selling handjobs or blowjobs on the streets of Reykjavik so they can feed they're pet tigers wearing there 1000 euros tiger jeans from japan.

Da Gooch
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:10:00 - [1576]
 

Im absolutely discussed by this reply from CC Zulu,

you are more or less telling all of the eve players that you couldnt give a monkeys about us and that this is the reality deal with it,

nor have you answered the single most important question asked that has been spammed over and over and ****ing over again will MT progress past vanity items,

are you just illiterate?

Akira Zendragon
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:10:00 - [1577]
 

Edited by: Akira Zendragon on 25/06/2011 00:13:10
Edited by: Akira Zendragon on 25/06/2011 00:10:55
(... continued from http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1537164&page=53#1570)

A lot of the rage, I believe is because of another type of perception: It seems like you and other CCP representatives are so disconnected from the playerbase and the game that you simply have not yet understood the nature of our concerns or the sheer size and gravity of this situation. Again, this might be incorrect and unjust, but again, that is the image you transmit and the perception we have.

I don't expect the past few days have been easy over there, with this great storm just after the stress of deploying a major expansion. I'm sure many in CCP are quite aggravated by some of what's been said here, and rightly so in many cases. But your Dev Blog, and several interventions of CCP staff, are letting those feelings through, and end up piling more crap on this situation. Unfair as it may be or feel, please try to be the bigger person here and keep the tone friendly.

I played EVE in 2006 and 2007, and then took a break because of RL. I returned a few weeks ago excited to see all the new stuff I'd missed. I was around for the T20-gate, saw the coming of Revelations and Trinity. And while CCP's communication with players was far from perfect, I never once questioned CCP's respect for it's customers.

Sadly, I cannot say that anymore.

I like the game. A lot. I've been in Eve University almost all of my "career". It's an amazing bunch of people doing an amazing thing. To me, the fact that something like Eve University exists in EVE, and has existed for so long, is a testament to what you've been building here. Don't ruin this amazing sandbox over a few $$, please.

Best regards,

(Full post here: http://pastie.org/pastes/2118574)

EDIT: CCP Zulu, just saw your post on this thread. I hope the next blog addresses the elephant in the room, it should really have been the first thing to clarify, IMHO

RougeOperator
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:11:00 - [1578]
 

And I want to know what idiot signed off on this dev blog as an official response. Do you not have anyone with common sense working at CCP?

Vim
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:11:00 - [1579]
 

Originally by: Smoke Adian
Edited by: Smoke Adian on 24/06/2011 23:58:30
Originally by: Kynder Furlow


the internal newsletter revealed that CCP is lying to us and is very actively considering rl money for everything from ammo to ships - something that a LEAD DESIGNER SUPPORTS.


The lead designer dont support it.
The lead designer knows precisely what would be bad for EvE, when asked to play the role of Gordon Gekko and being the devils advocate to present viewpoints and ideas from that standpoint, he so did quite brilliantly, getting the right gekko tone and everything.
An internal document, for CCP employees all over the world. To read and cause discussion. Its got to be realy clear. Making extreme standpoints comeout more extreme, just for the heck of it.
"Gordon Gekko Edition" <-When will people read this for that it means, and read "Greed is Good?" with the questionmark attached?

They sadly choose EvE as their arena for debatting about MT, because all of CCP are familliar with her.
But they need this discussion for dust and WoD, noone but a few knows where thoose are going: So they use EvE to get the debate going, presenting some extreme points in an even more extreme text because its got to be realy clear.

And yes, hopefully they will clarify their blog and say 'No' since most people can read and grasp the meaning of one word at a time.

I myself wouldnt be felling bad if they introduced 'Faster skilltrain on your coming 1m sp' for newbies(up to 10m sp) and the like. Newbies realy need to feel they are actually progressing.

I will quit when they announce 'ships for aur, paintjobs with +3 locked targets bonus'. But until then, do not judge them for their toughts and using an arena they all know well to make it easier to discuss.

/V


Maisonian
Amarr
The Green Machine
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:11:00 - [1580]
 

How to tell if somthing is wrong in EvE:

The playerbase agrees with each other.

Meatay
Night Theifs
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:11:00 - [1581]
 


The Geoman
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:13:00 - [1582]
 

To CCP Zula and others,

Incarna is something that I've looked forward to for some time. I am eager to see the direction that the game may take, now that we've opened up this new frontier. I agree, it looks good, so far. However, I think that some optimization is going to be needed, or else many will not be able to enjoy this new content to the extent that you'd like. The CQ does cause a fair amount of heat in my machine, though I otherwise run it quite smoothly. Many are not able to claim the same, unfortunately. But Incarna is new enough that I can allow for some time to work this out...I know it was worse on SiSi

It is clear that, as you said, the elephant in the room is microtransactions. That has, regretfully, cast a shadow upon what should have been a positive step in the expansion of Eve Online, with Incarna.

For my own part, I am not very concerned about the sale of vanity items. CCP can certainly experiment with new revenue streams, and I'm not going to lose sleep over it, so long as these items are effectively optional. What changes the nature of the game for me is when MT involve things that give players a competitive advantage in the game, or opens up content that should otherwise be covered by our monthly subscriptions.

This is not a F2P game. In the F2P world, one expects the monetization model to include far more than just the sale of vanity items. But in a P2P game, this risks unbalancing things, not to mention, it will potentially drive people away from this great game. That's not something any of us want to see.

The devblog that spawned this thread probably fell short of the mark, in terms of communicating what people want to see addressed. I think it is clear that people are looking for a straight yes/no to their questions about the future of MT in Eve Online. People are concerned that the silence from CCP is tantamount of an admission that fears of the player base are justified. I don't want to see specific devs dragged through the mud, either, because they happened to contribute to the now-infamous internal newsletter. But I'd like to see an authoritative response from CCP about what is planned. End the speculation, and let's just lay things out.

I hope that this ****storm can be calmed. It won't be easy, but it could still end quite well for everyone.




Cosmoes
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:13:00 - [1583]
 


Nicki O
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:13:00 - [1584]
 

nothing to complain here about captains quarter und all the other small stuff - runs fine, looks good (at least on my pc). now get back to spaceships!

but the mt store is insane:
1. 50+ bugs for a stupid virtual clothing item? and yes you are earning the cash when i do it, so im paying you for it, direct ($$ to plex) or indirect (isk to plex).
if you want to make it rare, then make it like 2$ and 1 billion isk.
2$ for some pixels could sound fair to me. what you are doing atm is a ripoff.

2. why is there a mt store in the first place?
i did pay you 3 accounts for years now, thats a full release game per month. not enough?
why do i have to pay extra to get access to all the stuff in the game?

3. eve is a competitive game for me, whats the plan on non-vanity items?
i trusted you since last week - but now i want an answer, a guarantee.



first and probably last post in the forums

Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr
Indicium Technologies
Hephaestus Forge Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:14:00 - [1585]
 

I don't know if its been mentioned allready (and I'm not going to wade through 50 odd pages to find out) but EVE is dying! Only this time its for real, failcascade is underway.

Da Gooch
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:15:00 - [1586]
 

Edited by: Da Gooch on 25/06/2011 00:17:37

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?



CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.



I want all my fellow eve players to quote this and not suggest any other stupid points, this is the only thing that needs a damn answer

Smoking Blunts
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:16:00 - [1587]
 

Originally by: Demon Azrakel
I may be wrong, but I think I just read CCP Zulu telling the playerbase to go **** itself...


yep thats exactly what he said.
think he also implied that incarna is awesom, has no problems and its everyones pc that are fail and all the technical issues that have shown up are infact down to us not have 2xi7 cpus built in to a 32gb rig running 3 gpus in sli for the 1 and only client we are allowed to play on since

Slayer198933
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:16:00 - [1588]
 

im not sure if i want to believe what i just read or not, but i do like this game and i am willing to stick around to see what you are going to do about it. if you do allow MT's for standings,weapons, ammo, ships, module slots, etc. i will have to call it quits. b/c i am not about to lose all my hard work to some noob who bought his way to the top the first week he has played. not cool. but if you do fix this then i will continue playing for a long time. Very Happy with that said and me reading through all the comments i would sincerely appreciate a very honest reply to all of our posts. Will this "MT" become available to buying ships and standing or "non-vanity items". I believe if you do make MT non-vanity items you will completely change eve as we know it. might as well change your name while your at it. if its money your after, i honestly wouldn't mind paying 20 or 25 dollars a month for this game but as long as you keep it the same and polish what needs to be polished to make it a better game. Thank you for your time Cool

Nia Handle
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:16:00 - [1589]
 


Most useless devblog I've ever read. I want my 3 minutes reimbursed CCP!

Zalyz S'venfirion
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:17:00 - [1590]
 

Originally by: Evalon Fury
Originally by: Ko'rell Cosca
Originally by: Ceq Lysander
Quote:

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?








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