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Posted - 2011.06.24 21:57:00 - [901]

I cant beleive thats whats in the blog.

He he spent the whole day writing a blog which can be paraphrased as "F uck you unhappy customers."

Viibl Triibl
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:57:00 - [902]

Originally by: Transporter Slave
Originally by: Grog Drinker

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?

The one and only thing that matters...

I hope so, and it shuts you ****s up already. It's not the biggest issue, despite your amazing ability to blindly parrot it over and over.

Drama Llamas
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:57:00 - [903]

That was fairly pathetic, to be honest. Instead of understanding the sheer volume of reprisals coming to a head, you decide to stand firm, even get defensive.

Well I wish CCP luck with that, it sometimes takes monumental events to get a message across that can affect corporate (or lack of) inertia. I see you're in that phase of your corporate history.

My two accounts, which were yearly subscriptions, are now cancelled, with the hopes if you somehow buck the odds and reverse the inevitable course that's in front of you I can renew them. For me I got a few more months of time to solidify my friendships, say my goodbyes, and find a place where all my play buddies will go. Note that Eve is a social environment - when the alphas leave, the rest tend to follow, in order to stay together. Eve isn't the glue that binds, it's just the canvas we express our kinship. We can and will find another place if we need to. Don't think for a minute you're not under a spotlight in your industry, and some clever company is going to take advantage of the vacuum you will cause.

Good luck, hope for a more humble and heartfelt response.

Posted - 2011.06.24 21:58:00 - [904]

Hey Ho another threadnout

Posted - 2011.06.24 21:58:00 - [905]

Edited by: NeoRoanoke on 24/06/2011 21:58:18
Originally by: Zeta LaFrege
Originally by: Randal Eirikr
Originally by: Lord o'Darkness
Originally by: Cutter Isaacson


This. All you have to do is answer this ONE question.

Answer this and be saved CCP!!

Posted - 2011.06.24 21:58:00 - [906]

Next devblog/patch with content please. The door looks OK though.

Posted - 2011.06.24 21:58:00 - [907]

my account runs out in 16 days. bye bye P.

DasIst Hinkle
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:58:00 - [908]


That was a pathetic non-apology. The obvious contempt of the EVE player base displayed in the fearless newsletter, and subsequent developer forum posts gives me serious reservations about giving CCP any more of my real-life monies.

It is obvious that corporate greedheads worry more about what they can possibly extract from us financially than delivering an enjoyable or quality product.

This is a company that is rapidly alienating their player base by introducing major changes that add nothing to the gameplay (incarna), but is incapable of fixing basic user interface bugs.

CCP Zulu et al have been blinded by the dollar-signs in their eyes... acting like a bunch of half-rabid dogs,salivating and climbing over each other after a whiff of $ony's dripping cooz.

Posted - 2011.06.24 21:58:00 - [909]

Subscription cancelled.

F*** you too Zulu. Very Happy

Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:58:00 - [910]

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Thanks P. This is the animated way of what you just did...again!

Monev Szutef
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:58:00 - [911]

Originally by: Sedilis
You've had your chance Zulu. let Turbefield speak!

Turbefield, Master of Spreadsheets can fix this!

Alice Everlasting
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:59:00 - [912]

I think what CCP is doing with incarna is a very good idea, I love the idea that they want the game to be a sci-fi simulation game were you can do whatever you want with your character and all that. Go to the bar and have a drink etc. and ofcourse if you dont want a drink you can still just sit in your pod all day and do what you regularly would do. I hope the "auto-leave ship on docking" is temporary tough, seems abit tiring to leave your pod...put on clothes...turn in mission...take of clothes...go back in pod,evrytime you dock.

anywas, this is what i wanted to say...if you do real life comparison with the clothing prices in the NEX store, your doing it wrong. pod pilots have enough money to buy military ships. A real cruiser class naval ship costs about 600-700 million dollars, and a pair of expensive jeans cost 1000 dollars. So if you want it to be a realistic simulation you let the clothes and accessories cost about 1000 isk and they would still be expensive for a regular non-pod pilot person.

Posted - 2011.06.24 21:59:00 - [913]

Edited by: Gothikia on 24/06/2011 22:00:54
So, gaiz.. I hear I can get $1000 pair of jeans... Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Alexi Blue
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:59:00 - [914]


Posted - 2011.06.24 21:59:00 - [915]

I am actually shocked at the blog... So what I gather the gist is....

1) Stop worrying about microtransactions and stop making CCP feel bad!
2) I should naturally spend the same amount of money on a pair of avatar pants as I would in real life.... or more....

Good God... I am actually speechless....

Black Snake Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:59:00 - [916]




Biomass MeNOW
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:59:00 - [917]

Originally by: CCP Zulu
We will gradually introduce items at other price points, definitely lower and probably higher than whats in the store today. We hope you enjoy them and are as passionate about them as you are of the current items that are for sale.

You, Sir, and CCP are a bunch of absolute morons.

People may spend $80 on a pair of jeans, or even $1000 (the fools), because they are real items, with real value, not a collection of pixels that can be deleted at the whim of some cerebrally challenged programmer.
You can't touch my $25 denim jeans, no matter how much you may find them lame, but if I were stupid enough to buy your $25 pixel collection you could happily **** it away in the next patch and I'd have nothing to say about it. But somewhere, someone has the money to throw some pretty heavy legal weight into the mix; the items may be virtual, but real money was spent to procure those particular items. Not a subscription price, or an item purchased vicariously to extend a subscription, but specifically for one single (laughably overpriced) virtual good.

One day, that lawyer will win.

Get your collective heads out of your asses and listen to your players; they're ****ed. Not even the carrier/MS changes, the castration of Webs, watering down of ECM, gimping of NOS ever spawned this level of anger in your player base.

Sit down, and just fucking listen. If you fail to heed your subscribers, you won't have any. Others failed to listen in the past, and see where they are now (SWG NPE, ex).

VaL Iscariot
The Concilium Enterprises
Spectrum Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:59:00 - [918]

You have cancelled your EVE Online subscription.

Your account will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on 21 July 2011.

Your characters will be stored safely and be ready for you to enjoy again should you decide to return.


You want a reason? This dev blog is proof enough that I've wasted more then enough time with you. Until you show me that you will take your head clean out of your ass, you can **** yourself straight up a cliff. You have till the 21st of July to get your ass in gear and get the job done right. In the mean time, you're fired. Twisted Evil

Ricardo Gonzalo Montalban
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:59:00 - [919]

I want to know why they keep side stepping the main question we have, non-vanity for Aur, and keep ramming the "Aur pricing" as the main thing. I DON'T ****ING CARE ABOUT AUR PRICING GODDAMN IT.

Linis Erens
Proposition Thirteen
The Third Rail
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:59:00 - [920]

The overeaction by the player base is hilarious. They seem to think they are entitled to cheap cosmetic items. And lol at a business plan that has the goal of destroy said business.

Keep up the good work CCP. A lot of people will look back in 6months and realise how silly they were.

Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:59:00 - [921]

With regard to the issues everyone is having, two things really stand out:

Purchasing products from the Noble Exchange is OPTIONAL! If you think they're too expensive, don't buy them.

Nobody is forcing you to subscribe to EVE - that too is optional. If you don't agree with what CCP may or may not have said, then cancel your subscription and walk away. Believe it or not EVE is a game, although from reading these forums I sometimes wonder how many people actually remember that Very Happy

Rainus Max
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:00:00 - [922]

Originally by: CCP Zulu
Hey all. To clarify this blog, its intent was to address two topics and two topics only;

1. What Fearless is and the nature of its content
2. The pricing strategy behind the NeX store

I do realize there are other concerns you have and those will be addressed, but doing it all at the same time would make the messaging tricky and muddled and not allow for a focused discussion. I understand a lot of the frustration going around but if we want to discuss then we need to do so in a constructive and focused manner.


1) Frankly I dont care what fearless is, its out and tbh I'm not sure why you are having this discussion. The player base rebelled when you announced the first MT blog, do you really expect our opinions to change on this? You want to gauge the reaction on this? Then create a small questionaire thats mandatory to complete before logging in, that will give you the true state of play on this move.
2) You're argument is fatally flawed, if I had $20 dollars to spend on a T-Shirt I would rather buy a real world one than on a pile of pixels.

Now as there have been, in the last couple of days, 10,000+ posts, 400+ pages of comments and now there are in game protests I would seriously recommend you back down, re-assess where EvE is going and apologise PROPERLY.

Steve Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:00:00 - [923]

Originally by: Lugaedh

This dev blog is a joke, right?

how is this remotly a suprise to anyone?

Senlia Hucel-Ge
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:00:00 - [924]

Originally by: Randal Eirikr
Originally by: Lord o'Darkness
Originally by: Cutter Isaacson


This. All you have to do is answer this ONE question.

What a fail blog. Unbelievable. A half page. A HALF PAGE

Zedrik Cayne
Standards and Practices
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:00:00 - [925]

Speaking of SWG....

Sony's killing it.

Welcome to your future CCP. Hope you get something out before then that makes you some coin.

They started with a much larger player base...

Ranka Mei
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:00:00 - [926]

Well, that was a mite disappointing. No apology, let alone a sincere one; no unequivocal NO! to 'MT for ingame advantages.' Instead, I saw something in the vein of 'You guys were too mean to us,' and 'We're only doing our jobs.' Oh, and something about likely selling stuff for even higher AURUM prices (the latter was, pardon the pun, priceless).

Disappointed? Yes. Surprised? Sadly, no. You think that's a commentary on the current state of CCP?

Angels of Anarchy
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:00:00 - [927]

I hope Ive addressed your concerns and cleared up a lot of the issues youre having. Well continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog.

Not in the slightest. I don't give a damn about the MT. It's optional, it's pointless, and you've gone off the deep-end with your customer expectations with it by releasing the expensive stuff with nothing else. You blew that - mostly by ignoring all the feedback you had at your fingertips.

But none of that matters.

Address the crap that you saddled us with as far as the lost functionality and crappy transitions between In-space, in the hanger, and in CQ.

And while you're at it, hire more people in customer relations to get ALL the real issues with this patch, not just the MT nonsense. Again, you have all the feedback - READ IT!

- And with that, my alt account sub is going to run out and I'm letting it. When my main is due again in 4 weeks, I'll re-assess the state of the game and see what you've done to right the wrongs in the game itself. (Click my portrait for recent posts if you want to know - I'm not typing it all a third time)

Get in touch with the game!

Posted - 2011.06.24 22:00:00 - [928]

..... how sad

Mimidae Risk Solutions
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:00:00 - [929]

Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit.

A LITTLE hard for me to ASSUME I'm wearing $1000 Jeans - NEVER had the LUXURY of doing so.

Does CCP Promise Vanity Items Only?

Fremen Sietch
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:00:00 - [930]

Incarna - which by the way is one of our more smooth and successful expansions, not to mention absolutely gorgeous

No really? This is the first expansion that adds 0 bits of content to the core gameplay (it's spaceship combat in case you have forgotten) while introducing the usual metric ton of bugs. It also puts excessive stress on the hardware. As for gorgeous - doom 3 and halflife 2 were gorgeous at the time. It was like 6 years ago? You mean the expansion was really about reinventing half a decade old 3d engine with a closet sized level map?

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