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Posted - 2011.06.24 21:46:00 - [781]


I used to respect CCP and the game they created but after that dev blog you guys showed you are no better than the greedy ****ing politicians in Washington D.C!!!

**** you CCP

Nozomi nrvqsr
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:46:00 - [782]

Yeah, f.u.c.k you too, CCP.

Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:46:00 - [783]

Maybe in Iceland you do business differently than in Brazil but if I was addressing clients that way I'd be out a job.

Hopefully you guys manage to learn how serious this situation really is and how important your customers are to you.

George Wilkes Hill
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:46:00 - [784]

Originally by: oniplE
This blog is a disgrace.

The Envy
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:46:00 - [785]

Lot of talk about what "we" want, but what I want is for Captains Quarters to be 100% optional... forever!

I want to be able to stay in my ship all naked and warm inside my goo.

If I wanted to walk around I can either play WoW, SL or Entropia or step out of my capsule and let the joy of vacuum dry my corpse for someone else to have thier way with.

For those who are angry about NeX, HTFU. If you don't like the prices, DON'T BUY THE GOODS. If demand drops for vanity items, then prices will drop.

BugraT WarheaD
Astromechanica Federatis
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:46:00 - [786]

... You must be kidding ? Right ?

Or maybe you haven't read that we dont give a f*ck of the NeX or the CQ but that it was a whole year of frustration that is coming to you in one week.

Eternal Night Dynamics
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:46:00 - [787]

Originally by: CCP Zulu
I hope I‘ve addressed your concerns and cleared up a lot of the issues you‘re having. We‘ll continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog.

You best go re write your blog if thats the case, as your current one clearly doesnt cover any of the concerns of your community...

wtf have you done to Eve, take me back to Exodus anyday, its a real shame.

Selephena Harcott
SpaceBalls Academy
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:46:00 - [788]

"Basically eve player go drop your trousers and bend over we will do what we want with the game, we can get enough new subscribers with our shiny toys"

So 5+ year player saying thanks for giving me a reason to un-sub, anyone know any other mmorpg's that don't have money grabbing bstereds running it?

-3 subs

Hel Xaphod
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:47:00 - [789]

CCP_Zulu, you did not address the main concern. You insult us by wasting our time. We were told no MT in Eve, and that was a lie. Why should we believe anything will be off limits for MT now?

I swear, it's impossible for me to comprehend how you can defend an employee that has shown such contempt for the customers. Some of us golden goose cash cows actually have feelings. The hate he is being shown is well earned, and the contempt of a "reply" that answers none of the core issues is not much better.

It's like you can't even see what Eve is anymore, like you've lost touch with the very things that made it worth playing and set it apart. Eve was unique, and look what you are doing to it now.

It's a shame, a real waste.

The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:47:00 - [790]


Dnai Hsrang
Cardinal Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:47:00 - [791]

Originally by: CCP Zulu
Hey all. To clarify this blog, its intent was to address two topics and two topics only;

1. What Fearless is and the nature of its content
2. The pricing strategy behind the NeX store

I do realize there are other concerns you have and those will be addressed, but doing it all at the same time would make the messaging tricky and muddled and not allow for a focused discussion. I understand a lot of the frustration going around but if we want to discuss then we need to do so in a constructive and focused manner.


Then edit the Blog to say that so you take down the frustration level instead of increasing it.

Yblarbo Janks
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:47:00 - [792]

I know it doesn't have to be said again, but I'll say it.

This blog totally missed the point, and all you did was make more cash cows loose hope, and start looking for other pastures.

Harleen Frances Quinzel
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:47:00 - [793]


Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?

Iron Eagle
Mortis Angelus
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [794]

Zulu, you're a terrible poaster. I could write a better failblog. Nice try though.

Taowulf Casternavas
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [795]

Funny part is that you talk about "fearless" being a company value and you LOOOOVE to talk about how CCP succeeded because they actually bucked MMORPG trends and yet this is the only defense? "Everyone else is doing it, why shouldn't we?"

All in all, this response shows about 2 minutes was spent on it, not days. It also shows a complete and utter disregard for the main concerns. And where has the interaction with CSM been? You let us elect the CSM (TBH, i wasn't active at the time) but now you ignore them when they could very succinctly let you know what the Big Deal™ is really about?

Poor poor poor.

Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [796]

Wow CCP. Way to avoid the issue. This isn't the answer we were looking for, and all you've managed to do is burn the last standing bridges with the community. You really need to get your **** together.

Black Lagoon Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [797]

10/10 CCP, after 5 solid years, I have absolutely 0 plans to come back. not just that I really want to see you crash and burn for this.

Nice blog Zulu, very nice: Hey eve players, I will completely ignore the points everyone wants me to address and tell you all to go **** yourselves, oh and go buy our worthless 70£ monocles in a game about spaceships.

How about all the people that want hangar view back?
What about the questions about non vanity items for aur?
What about you complete lack of respect for people who got you this far and pay your wage. FOR 8 ****ING YEARS.
What about all other points that people want addressed?

I will reply with same to you: Go **** yourselves.

Marcus Aurelijus
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [798]

Edited by: Marcus Aurelijus on 24/06/2011 22:03:41
edit: real comment 2 pages down. Weird stutter

Alexis Sachs
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [799]

So, I guess nothing from Pann's thread with Manifest reading it and then Fallout telling us to play nice so he can do more reading as compared to cleaning up made it through to the big wigs? The response seems woefully inadequate and laughable. People are unhappy and we're told that $1k jeans are cool... CCP, are you reading the same forums I am?

Grog Drinker
The Tuskers
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [800]


Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?

The one and only thing that matters...

Vherik Askold
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [801]

Compare the incarana launch we had, with what we could have seen:

Eve let you set graphic options for WiS and FiS seperately. Load station environment was a permanent feature, not a temporary stopgap. You kept the old hangar view and could disembark to the new WiS if needed. Performance hits wouldn't have been as bad.

4 different CQ available, one per race.

Vanity clothing available at $1-50 each. Selection of 50+ items. The vast majority at lower price points ($1-$5), with some luxury items at the $30-50 for the superrich.

10-20 alternate ship skins for popular hulls. $1 gets you a 1-run bpc to produce the ship (exact same minerals and stats as regular, just different look). $3 gets you a 5-run BPC.

A commitment to continue with vanity only MT at eve, with price points across the entire spectrum.

Can you imagine how much money Eve would have made under those circumstances? Can you understand how different community opinion would have been?


Now, look at the difficulty for each of those options. Different settings would be fairly easy. How difficult is it to create a 3d environment of a single room for 4 races? Clothing isn't that hard to design that all the items are at their current pricepoint. You'd want to have cheap items to get buy-in from customers. This never should have been launched with such a limited selection and poor pricing.

Re-skinning an existing ship would involve changing colors on the different layers they use. A competent artist could create alternate color schemes for quite a few ships fairly easily. More complex skins with actual different patterns could be developed as time permits. Creating the actual BPC is maybe 5 minutes work.....

Aarin Wrath
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [802]

What? that's it?
Wow you guys really don't have a clue about whats really going on do you?

What a bunch of incompetent buffoons.

Time to find a new MMO. Neutral

Gunpoint Diplomacy
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [803]

We asked you nicely, we asked you politely, we asked you angrily, we raged, we begged, we pleaded, and you refused to lower the gun that you slowly raised to your heads over these years. All you had to do was make one simple promise; a promise not to engage in non-vanity Micro Transactions. It's not even a hard promise to make or keep, unless you never had any intent not to do it in the first place. This would have lowered the gun away from your head.

Instead of that, you made Zulu pull the trigger.

I'm done with you. You, as an organization, never had any intent to listen to our words. Fine; listen to our cancellations. Game Over. We ALL lose. Good day, sir.

Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [804]

You've had your chance Zulu. let Turbefield speak!

Rui Morin
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [805]

Originally by: MissyDark

F you too.


Heh, I did the same after reading that dev blog.

Want my stuff? Too late!

Austherus Sialomaet
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [806]

Originally by: Lord o'Darkness
Originally by: Cutter Isaacson


This. All you have to do is answer this ONE question.

You know why they are not going to answer this question? Because they can't answer you a no.

MeatSausage EXPRESS
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [807]

it has now come out that CCP is planning on selling skillpoints in the NeX.

Their bet is that some idiots buying $1,000 worth of SP will offset all the thousands of people leaving eve over this.

Not gonna work.

CCP lied, EVE died.

Posted - 2011.06.24 21:49:00 - [808]

Worst. Devblog. Ever. Seriously, the disconnect between CCP and their playerbase is very worrying

Eoghan Gorthaur
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:49:00 - [809]

Amazing! If this is the best that the senior producer can write in couple of days... no wonder the way this old love its taking.


sad day, but i guess there is life after eve.

Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:49:00 - [810]

This devblog merely confirms our worst fears - it does not answer the questions we have clearly asked - it does not refute anything we are unhappy about.

CCP thinks they're right on track.

I will not be monetised, good day sirs.

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