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Josofo
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:49:00 - [3001]
 

Originally by: Mithrasith
That CCP was and is debating on having micro-transactions in the game is not problematic to me - as long as they are just vanity items only, because quite frankly I dont care.

What does bother me is the following:

-Being called a "Golden Goose". To this I have to say F*CK YOU, you A*SHAT! Oh and btw -4 subscriptions, permanently. Im not a f'ing goose, Im a person, and someone who WAS invested in your game. I dont like being referred to as "the sucker" or your "sugar daddy", or your perpetual egg layer that you get to cash in on - you twit

-That I as a player am funding OTHER GAMES, resources that SHOULD be spent on FIXING primary Bugs, issues and balance content in EVE that has been outstanding for a VERY LONG TIME. In addition, I dont like the fact that it is very clear to me now that what I suspected to be occuring was occuring - namely that you were adding shiney new content to attract subs so that you could fund the development of OTHER games, rather than fixing issues in your primary game

-The following comment from Zulu "I hope I‘ve addressed your concerns and cleared up a lot of the issues you‘re having. We‘ll continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog.
- They arent my issues dip sh*t they are YOUR F*CKING ISSUES. Someone seriously needs to demote Zulu back to a grunt coding position or something, this isnt the first time he has stepped on the player base and said something stupid.

I do have to say CCP you have done a spectacular job at stepping on the neck of your "golden goose". And now the downward flaming spiral of EVE Online continues.




Those are my problems aswell.

Did CCP honestly think we would want to "fund" their next game? Ofcourse that's how it works, but your main income from Eve, should be spent on.. You guessed it... Eve!

There really has been a lack of effort from the developers the past years. Now I "officially" know why. Thanks a lot.

-3 subs!

DaHeaVYFo
Trauma Ward
Posted - 2011.06.28 18:40:00 - [3002]
 

I bet people will have to pay BIG to buy a bar or office with the next Incarna expansion. Pay tones for them strippers. CCP is going to make quite abit of money. Right before the game dies.

BeunWa
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.28 21:10:00 - [3003]
 

Shame on you Zulu. Shame on you CCP. I'm really disappointed by your reaction and the way you treat the eve community. Shame on you.

Darius Sokarad
Posted - 2011.06.29 01:50:00 - [3004]
 

Originally by: Brainless Bimbo

I like many joined eve not because it was easy but, and this is a very important but, because it was hard, complex, unforgiving and a very long term commitment, I had a look and knew on day one that this sandbox of yours was going to occupy me what whats probably left of my life, it was who dies first, eve or me.

Eve is/was full of bright, intelligent people, it still is, the player base care more about CCP than most of your directors and major shareholders, and whats more its individual and collective intelligence far outstrips any resource CCP could ever acquire or contract on the marketplace.

We understand that CCP should have other products, we made CCP successful enough to takeover/merge with WW, we understood that WiS was the making of the ambulation and box engine for and WoD, we were more than happy to keep shoveling you cash because it was good for eve and CCP. What we did not expect as you promised it would not happen is MT in eve, yes develop the method for WoD, but introducing it into eve is CCP breaking trust with the eve community.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS, This, this!! Thank you for putting that to words Brainless Bimbo.

I don't want Eve to be a glorified MechQuest, I want it difficult, so difficult that we joke about a learning cliff instead of a learning curve. I want it so that there needs to be commitment and passion from the players.

20 days left before this sub runs out, and so far nothing to convince me to stay.

Angeliq
Minmatar
Soimii Patriei
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.29 08:07:00 - [3005]
 

https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/t5JQf


^^ READ! ^^



After you read this, do you honestly believe that "The One Who's Name Shall Not Be Spoken" (the major shareholder of CCP) cares about the gaming experience? Do you honestly believe that he's concerned about ruining the game? About ruining the in-game market, economics and balance? Do you honestly believe that he gives a damn about all the ppl raging here on forums? Do you think that he cares about EVE Online? Do you think he cares about the income EVE Online makes from players? Do you think he cares about how much will an EVE Online player spend on NEX Store?

Here's my take on this! CCP has no authority, no power over these late decisions. CCP is just following orders, Hilmar, CCP Zulu, CCP Pann, CCP Fallout, CCP whatever, they can't do anything about this, that's why most of them are as upset about those changes as we are, maybe even more, considering the fact that their (most loved) project is going to be screwed up and maybe even shut down eventually. As for CSM... LOL they weren't even consulted in all those late decisions. It's ALL JUST AN ACT, A CHARADE. This is why some of CCP's employees leaked documents and this is why everybody is afraid to speak. They, just like us, are only puppets.

For obvious reasons I will not elaborate more on this story, but for EVE's sake, wake up ppl, OPEN YOUR EYES!

zoolkhan
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.06.29 08:40:00 - [3006]
 

Originally by: Angeliq

https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/t5JQf


^^ READ! ^^




Interesting Read.

I played eve since 2003 - and i never dropped subscription. I have three accounts now, and i know that many out there run even more, not trying to portrait my
personal story as a big Shocker.

For a while i prefered the virtual reality in EVE, over the reality outside of it.

Those times are over, and if they turn eve into a place where the RL-rich
get too much of an advantage over those who earn their ISK the hard way ingame...

..if they focus on the wrong things, as if a external business consultant is dictating the course now, instead of the old CCP visionaries.. well then it is really time
to say goodbye. It has been fun 8-9 yrs.. And i will miss you, but as the CSM has no other than marketing value to you, you have no more than the value of a billboard to me...

I will be watching where its heading for a little while...

A good start would be a sincere and in depht response to the players worries.

Fred Kyong
Caldari
EWH NanoTex
Posted - 2011.06.29 08:56:00 - [3007]
 

Edited by: Fred Kyong on 29/06/2011 08:58:50
I do not wear brand named cloth in real life. Considering, I would like my avatar even naked or with just a little bits of cloth! How much could a string tanga be? Top=Topless... no need there Cool Other than that... yep, I do not need cloth in EvE and I do give a f*x+cco what other think Laughing

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.29 10:45:00 - [3008]
 

Edited by: Ranka Mei on 29/06/2011 10:52:22
Originally by: Angeliq

https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/t5JQf


^^ READ! ^^



After you read this, do you honestly believe that "The One Who's Name Shall Not Be Spoken" (the major shareholder of CCP) cares about the gaming experience? Do you honestly believe that he's concerned about ruining the game? About ruining the in-game market, economics and balance? Do you honestly believe that he gives a damn about all the ppl raging here on forums? Do you think that he cares about EVE Online? Do you think he cares about the income EVE Online makes from players? Do you think he cares about how much will an EVE Online player spend on NEX Store?


My, my, from Russian Mafia to American N-a-z-i Party, what a fine bunch of leadership we have. :(

P.S. It certainly explains why Russian botters are left alone. Puzzle pieces have a funny, be it sometimes painful, way of coming together.

Angeliq
Minmatar
Soimii Patriei
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.29 11:08:00 - [3009]
 

Originally by: Ranka Mei
Edited by: Ranka Mei on 29/06/2011 10:52:22
Originally by: Angeliq

https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/t5JQf


^^ READ! ^^



After you read this, do you honestly believe that "The One Who's Name Shall Not Be Spoken" (the major shareholder of CCP) cares about the gaming experience? Do you honestly believe that he's concerned about ruining the game? About ruining the in-game market, economics and balance? Do you honestly believe that he gives a damn about all the ppl raging here on forums? Do you think that he cares about EVE Online? Do you think he cares about the income EVE Online makes from players? Do you think he cares about how much will an EVE Online player spend on NEX Store?


My, my, from Russian Mafia to American N-a-z-i Party, what a fine bunch of leadership we have. :(

P.S. It certainly explains why Russian botters are left alone. Puzzle pieces have a funny, be it sometimes painful, way of coming together.

And maybe why CCP GM's helped BoB at some point in the past.

El 1974
Posted - 2011.06.29 11:24:00 - [3010]
 

Edited by: El 1974 on 29/06/2011 11:25:37
Edited by: El 1974 on 29/06/2011 11:24:59
Originally by: Zen Sins
I'm not ****ed off about microtransactions. Frankly I could care less. I AM, however, ****ed off that Gylfason lied straight to my face as an Eve player when he said in his email:

"However, just to prove the point of the Fearless newsletter and give you a further understanding of what it is then there are no and never have been plans to sell “gold ammo” for Aurum. In Fearless people are arguing a point, which doesn’t even have to be their view, they are debating an issue. This is another example of how information out of context is no information at all."

That simply does NOT mesh with the context of the Fearless article which states:

"On the opposite end of the scale to vanity goods are performance based items such as weapons. They are consumed through gameplay, making them a potentially powerful source of renewable income. Selling them for real money is very tempting. They are highly desired by the player audience and yield lower development costs, as variation can be achieved through numbers rather than unique art assets. Selling them though, is highly controversial. We are planning on doing so. I would be tempted to say it is because we are fearless, but the real reason is that we have strong evidence that selling performance enhancers, in moderation, works. Korean developers have capitalized on performance-enhancing items for a long time, but it took a leap of faith from the people developing Battlefield: Heroes to show that the same principles that work in Korea apply for the western market as well."

How does that paragraph constitute DEBATE? It is quite plainly a statement of FACT backed by given examples and reasoning. It is NOT an argument that they "should" or "should not" do something. It states simply "WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING SO."

I do NOT appreciate this remedial attempt at spin from Gylfason nor the play for time afforded by the "emergency CSM meeting" on this issue. CCP should either HTFU and admit their plan, or reverse themselves and commit to CHANGING the plan.

You talk about context and don't read it. You quote an article about Dust and then you act like it's about Eve. Yes, Dust will have non-vanity items. And yes that sucks because Dust will be linked with Eve. But it doesn't say anything about what they will sell in Eve.

Greystorm Darkblade
Gallente
Self Preservation Society the 2nd
Posted - 2011.06.29 11:49:00 - [3011]
 

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?

Seems this question was answered in the the original Dev Blog:
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=932
-Zulu

Quote" We will gradually introduce items at other price points, definitely lower and probably higher than what‘s in the store today. We hope you enjoy them and are as passionate about them as you are of the current items that are for sale."- Arnar Hrafn Gylfason Senior Producer of EVE Online

That being out for a few days, now the only thing to do is "choose". stay and play or emoragequit.
CCP is being run as a buisness, with the intent to make real money and as much as possible before it folds or it's sold off. I dont like it, you dont like it and those that will not be named, dont care to include us in it's buisness plan.

The reality is, they are in it for the real money/ruble/Yen/dollar, and we fly around collecting space bucks.


Caldar Strom
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:55:00 - [3012]
 

It is good that ppl are unsubbing, canihasyourstuff?

Fogunkdugunk
Posted - 2011.06.29 14:37:00 - [3013]
 

All right Guys! I we read all 101 pages, and I think I shot my post now. Sorry for my english, its not well trained yet:)
So many of you guys seems to me who want that ****ing monocle or boots or something.. Just dont want to pay it for. Well world doesn't work like this.Cool
For me, monocle look like sh+it, I dont want it and Im not going to pay for it any amount of aurum. because it completely useless. So I dont care if it stays in game or not. Just pay 3 trillion or more for it if you dumb+ss.
Beyond wanity items? Well what could happen? Some rich noob buy a ship which has 10-20% better stats. Buy a standing too. Well he wont know what his ship could do, (sig radius/speed for example) and I call few of my ppl, and gank that ****er down. Or for example, buy a good projectile ammo, which has advantages. Than What? If I hit a retriever which costs 5 million isk, I will not shoot with that ammo, what is worth 20 million. Also do it if you dumb+ss.
Most of you are experienced players. Its a shame you cant see that rage quitting will not solve the problem. You hit ccp on their wallet. Fine. But if you love this game. (you said you love it really o really) Than try something else. rage quiting is a first step to kill the game.
The second one is The CCP. Forget to invest money in some edead plans like DUST, and try to fund it through the EVE.. Because eve was the first. First things first. Be proud to it, Fix the lags and then bugs, anyone gets happy with it. Further steps like Dust , or small turrets or CQ is UNNECESSARY. If your game EVE is playeble enough, than see how can you try more staff.
Oh and Please Train The "Communication with my Clients" skill from level 1 to level 3. Level 4 and level 5 Will be hard . People dont like the lies.

All right. You can spamming me if you want, but remember this was just my opinion. And thanks for reading

Cheers

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.29 17:31:00 - [3014]
 

Originally by: Angeliq
Originally by: Ranka Mei
Edited by: Ranka Mei on 29/06/2011 10:52:22
Originally by: Angeliq

https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/t5JQf


^^ READ! ^^



After you read this, do you honestly believe that "The One Who's Name Shall Not Be Spoken" (the major shareholder of CCP) cares about the gaming experience? Do you honestly believe that he's concerned about ruining the game? About ruining the in-game market, economics and balance? Do you honestly believe that he gives a damn about all the ppl raging here on forums? Do you think that he cares about EVE Online? Do you think he cares about the income EVE Online makes from players? Do you think he cares about how much will an EVE Online player spend on NEX Store?


My, my, from Russian Mafia to American N-a-z-i Party, what a fine bunch of leadership we have. :(

P.S. It certainly explains why Russian botters are left alone. Puzzle pieces have a funny, be it sometimes painful, way of coming together.

And maybe why CCP GM's helped BoB at some point in the past.


Confirming that a high proportion of the BoB membership were American Naz1s working for the Russian mafia.

Hmm, maybe not - but you may have us on the cheap booze angle.
Wink

Atkyaz Dreadstalker
Minmatar
Society of lost Souls
Posted - 2011.06.30 00:56:00 - [3015]
 

WOW. Any developer that can read this thread and not think that these questions need addressed is a total moron.

This game has survived for so many years because the development team for the most part did what was needed to keep the community happy. 80% of the community is against micro transactions. No body cares about the stupidly over priced cloths that are available now. some are upset at the price of the monocle. I mean seriously, 4 plex worth of Aurum for a single monocle. That's about $100 real money! For a vanity item? Are you serious? I thought that EVE was all about keeping everything accessible to anyone. Most EVE players can not afford to spend $100 dollars on a in game item no matter how much they might want one.

But still as long as it stays with vanity items only, most players will just complain and not do anything. Some will leave any way. I'm sure you devs have noticed a noticeable increase in canceled accounts since you put this in game. If you think this is coincidence them there really is no hope.I don't know what the plan is but letting this get out of hand will be the end of EVE. 40,000 or more players logged in at prime times is what makes this game great, ****ing off the community like this is not some thing you can afford if you you want this game to continue to grow.There are a few big MMO games coming out soon. If you frustrate your players they will be more inclined to take a break and try the new games. many of those players will not come back after they leave.

You see dollar signs when you talk about MT but ignore the lost dollars from cancelled subs if you continue down this path. Stop this now. If you wait until a mass exodus of subs it will be to late. In my experience players who lose trust in a development team not only abandon the game they are playing but refuse to play any game from the same developer. If you don't believe me just look at SOE. the SWG disaster was caused by not just by a bad decision on the part of the developers, but more so by the fact they refused to accept it was a mistake and would not fix it. they lost 80% of the subs in SWG within 2 months.

Manique
Caldari
Ominous Corp
Posted - 2011.06.30 11:47:00 - [3016]
 

Originally by: Aran Makor

IF ONE HUNDRED PAGES OF PEOPLE WHO SHOOT THE **** OUT OF EACH OTHERS SHIPS, RAGE AT EACH OTHER IN LOCAL, AND GENERALLY ****ING VERBALLY ABUSE EACH OTHER SUDDENLY SHOW UP ON YOUR FORUMS AND IT'S A CONSENSUS THAT YOU ARE ****ING UP AND HERE IS HOW TO FIX IT, YOU MAY WANT TO ****ING LISTEN.


this

Lucia Ferragano
Posted - 2011.06.30 18:06:00 - [3017]
 

Originally by: Darius Sokarad
Originally by: Brainless Bimbo

I like many joined eve not because it was easy but, and this is a very important but, because it was hard, complex, unforgiving and a very long term commitment, I had a look and knew on day one that this sandbox of yours was going to occupy me what whats probably left of my life, it was who dies first, eve or me.

Eve is/was full of bright, intelligent people, it still is, the player base care more about CCP than most of your directors and major shareholders, and whats more its individual and collective intelligence far outstrips any resource CCP could ever acquire or contract on the marketplace.

We understand that CCP should have other products, we made CCP successful enough to takeover/merge with WW, we understood that WiS was the making of the ambulation and box engine for and WoD, we were more than happy to keep shoveling you cash because it was good for eve and CCP. What we did not expect as you promised it would not happen is MT in eve, yes develop the method for WoD, but introducing it into eve is CCP breaking trust with the eve community.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS, This, this!! Thank you for putting that to words Brainless Bimbo.

I don't want Eve to be a glorified MechQuest, I want it difficult, so difficult that we joke about a learning cliff instead of a learning curve. I want it so that there needs to be commitment and passion from the players.

20 days left before this sub runs out, and so far nothing to convince me to stay.

4 days.

Lucia Ferragano
Posted - 2011.06.30 18:09:00 - [3018]
 

Originally by: Atkyaz Dreadstalker

You see dollar signs when you talk about MT but ignore the lost dollars from cancelled subs if you continue down this path. Stop this now. If you wait until a mass exodus of subs it will be to late. In my experience players who lose trust in a development team not only abandon the game they are playing but refuse to play any game from the same developer. If you don't believe me just look at SOE. the SWG disaster was caused by not just by a bad decision on the part of the developers, but more so by the fact they refused to accept it was a mistake and would not fix it. they lost 80% of the subs in SWG within 2 months.


Agreed. And then when their smaller brother/cousin asks, they give their opinion. Guess what I'll tell around me when WoD and DUST come out if things aren't solved FAST?

Halgirsand Verneraal
Posted - 2011.06.30 18:20:00 - [3019]
 

Originally by: Constantinus Maximus



edit: **** there are plenty of people that think they know how to "win" blackjack lol

<Mafia voice on>
Hey, Constantine, I don't like to lose, you understand me Constantine?
It's nothin personal Constantine.... it's bidnez.
I dont lose at Blackjack. Neither do my friends...
Ice him.
<Mafia voice off, sad music plays>

Lucia Ferragano
Posted - 2011.06.30 18:33:00 - [3020]
 

Originally by: Angeliq
Edited by: Angeliq on 26/06/2011 21:14:12

Originally by: Julian Kirov

Here's a presentation from the creators of BF:Heroes that explains why Hilmar gives no fcks about the forums.

http://www.slideshare.net/bcousins/paying-to-win




This is a very interesting presentation. Everyone should... MUST watch it!

This presentation will tell you why EVE Online WILL have a Cash Shop WITH GAME CHANGING ITEMS beyond vanity ones!! It shows that the business model works and why it will work in EVE too.




Difference: EVE is a long term commitment game. It's also a hard "Excel sheet"type of game. Not a FPS. I'll be watching that closely, but if serious bugs from Incarna are not addressed SOON(TM?), and other issues too... from the sideline. By the way, funny thing, if you search "CCP EVE scandal" on Google, you find the reaction of our beloved company to a scandal a few years ago, one that was not that bad. Interesting read.

Garekell
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:33:00 - [3021]
 

Originally by: Caldar Strom
It is good that ppl are unsubbing, canihasyourstuff?


"Canihasyourstuff"??? My God that is brilliant! You sir are a genius! Why that new catch-phrase you just came up with, will probably be quoted for years by trolls who don't have enough brains or wit to say anything clever or on topic ever!!..... oh.... sorry Neutral

Ed Allstar
Posted - 2011.07.01 09:56:00 - [3022]
 

Edited by: Ed Allstar on 01/07/2011 09:57:34
Edited by: Ed Allstar on 01/07/2011 09:56:34
i thought this picture depicting the cost of NeX t-shirts versus real life t-shirts sums up the major balls up that CCP has stumbled into, lolRazz:

http://i.imgur.com/g3hEB.jpg

Kiran
Minmatar
Knights of Azrael
Anti-Social Outcast
Posted - 2011.07.01 16:35:00 - [3023]
 

What a pointless dev blog.

It mentions nothing of pay to win issues and nor does it look like you have a grasp on actual value on clothing.

Microtransactions do not work in a p2p MMO either turn Eve into F2P and have your MT's or keep P2P and get rid of MT's. Having both will not work.

Nor have you adressed the issue of pay to win via the MT's. Many people who play Eve have asked about this point and you keep choosing to ignore them. Which could be construded as a resounding "yes CCP are going to implement this." Which will destroy the in game market the players and CCP have built up over the years Eve Online has been running.

CCP as a company can handle this alot better, but you seem hell bent on destroying Eve with your own greed.

Cyntharima
Minmatar
Redimio Veritas
Posted - 2011.07.01 18:44:00 - [3024]
 

I'm out. This account cancelled today since it is up for renewal tomorrow and there's no answer yet about P2W crap.

Another account goes the 4th, another in August and the last in October. But this character has the most SP by far, so I'm not sure I'll even play the others much as I wait for them to go.

Sort of makes me wish I never played this game because I did so as a long-term entertainment investment. I expected betrayal inside the game...I guess I should have expected betrayal outside the game as well. Everything good seems to turn to sh*t when the bean counters get control.

Maybe this will all pass if CCP wakes up. But I'm not holding my breath, or spending any more money.

Aiden Neros
Gallente
Pax Emunio
The Forsaken.
Posted - 2011.07.01 19:15:00 - [3025]
 

I really found the Shareholders article & BF:Heroes video to be very interesting and I thank those who have staying informed on these issues for making those available.

At first I felt the rage much like the rest of the Eve Community, the shock and hurt that came from popping the bubble on the fun/creative environment by having the realities behind the game smeared in our faces. Those realities have begun to sink in but I don't believe I can look at this great game in the same way anymore. Believing that CCP was looking out for its community members and were only thinking how they could make the game more immersed and inventive made me feel like the game was really going to pass all other MMOs by leaps and bounds. It was something I was proud to be a part of. Now the future seems uncertain, and the direction of Eve may not be what I thought it was initially.

I "get" the fearless letter, the microtransactions, and I also "get" the rage, the mob of masses. But even understanding it doesn't affect the hurt I feel. I still plan on playing the game but I don't plan on making additional transactions even if they end up have a performance advantage. I enjoy the game and I enjoy the community. I still think it's more creative than a lot of games out there, but I won't be holding it to the same expectations I had before. It's a business so I'll treat it like a business. It will try to get my money and I'll try to keep as much money in my pocket while still enjoying the majority of its features. Given all that though, how can I still continue to be a "fan" instead of simply a "customer"?

Lunce
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.01 21:23:00 - [3026]
 

I too am feeling disillusioned. I so wanted to believe that the people at CCP were proud of what they had built, and that that pride would translate into a focus on making their game even better. By better, I mean focusing on the many, many little and not so little areas of the game that are broken or otherwise not working as they should.

I've been puzzled at how little progress has been done in this area. Now it all becomes clear.

CCP has been investing the vast majority of its dev resources into WIS so that they can introduce micro-transactions as an income stream. It also explains why the CQ was (is?) going to be mandatory: quite simply, to support this new income stream. After all, if you don't use CQ you can't be tempted to use the store. So the answer is simple. Make it mandatory.

Why does CCP want/need this new income stream? Simply put, they are overextended in trying to develop and launch 2 other games. Sad, but predicable in hindsight.

Micro-transactions in free to play games works. That's been demonstrated. Micro-transactions in a pay to play game that is a sandbox environment like EVE.... I don't know, and because CCP seems dedicated to moving forward with selling anything and everything in this new store, I guess only time will tell.

RaShaad Wraith
Posted - 2011.07.02 08:04:00 - [3027]
 

Edited by: RaShaad Wraith on 02/07/2011 08:05:33
If CCP keeps the microtransactions to character clothing etc then there is no problems, how ever if ccp makes it possable for people to purchase ships, guns, ammo, and other such items then EvE is going to die. The real question here is - Would CCP actually do that? After 4 years of playing this game, I (for now) will give CCP the benefit of the doubt.

Ibis Drago
Posted - 2011.07.02 21:12:00 - [3028]
 

"Smoke and Mirrors"

Epic Fail CCP

Kronos
Posted - 2011.07.03 00:05:00 - [3029]
 

Now I do not mind if CCP needs to find more funds for developing the clothing vanity items and I have no issue with it except one.

When looking at other games free to play or other wise you can purchase quite a few items (special ones at that) for about 15 - 20 Euros. But CCP expects us to pay for 1 bit of clothing for 1 plex (19.99 Euro) or the Eye Implant at 4 Plex 79.96 Euros ?

Guys come on think with your heads screwed on please. I know a premium rate item can be worth 1 Plex but not 4, its like trying to rob us. I would happly pay for 1 Plex and use 3-4 bits of clothing would be worth it.

But I do agree with players, selling special ammo or ship equipment that give an upper edge is wrong. We pay a monthly subscription damn it, its not a free to play game!

Leave it out if you cannot get it right. The other way is have the clothing manufactured by players in EVE using planets and stuff but make sure they are expensive and hard to make. People will then happliy pay for Plex in order to sell to get the ISK to buy the clothes like they do with ships and other items.

enough said.

Ach4t1us
Posted - 2011.07.03 06:59:00 - [3030]
 

Edited by: Ach4t1us on 03/07/2011 07:01:20
Originally by: RaShaad Wraith
Edited by: RaShaad Wraith on 02/07/2011 08:05:33
If CCP keeps the microtransactions to character clothing etc then there is no problems, how ever if ccp makes it possable for people to purchase ships, guns, ammo, and other such items then EvE is going to die. The real question here is - Would CCP actually do that? After 4 years of playing this game, I (for now) will give CCP the benefit of the doubt.


Thing is you already could pay ships for moeny.... in this way. Buy a Pelx with money -> sell the PLEX for ISK -> buy a ship for ISK. I'm fine with this, but some peeps seem to forget that little fact.

PS: Peeps please read the new announcement from CCP


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