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Gianna Sister
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [271]

this "devblog" is a perfect summary about everything that's wrong with ccp nowadays.

Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [272]

it must be a joke pls say so Rolling EyesShocked

Ortam Mcthan
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [273]

Edited by: Ortam Mcthan on 24/06/2011 21:15:28
Is this a ****ing joke? How did you miss the BIG YELLOW QUESTION You ****ing idiots.

Ifly Uwalk
Concentrated Evil
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [274]

No answer is also an answer: non-vanity MT is coming! Sad

Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [275]

I tried to be level headed, but I'm sorry, nothing is addressed on this blog:

MT for advantages? Yes or no?
The WiS is gorgeous? Sorry, I haven't been blown away by it, nor any of the latest expansions.
Smooth? Maybe you haven't noticed keys sticking again. Not being able to abort warps. Anoms not spawning rats... I don't call that smooth.
Hangar? Not addressed.
The bans? Maybe you are not aware of the "kill it with fire" meme. In my corp we usually kid with that, to the point of "kill it with therm/em", whatever. It has become part of the internet lingo...
The fact that you write a few words that amount to PR spin with no real concern for a situation that for the first time in all my years as a player united carebears, gankers, pirates, 0.0 vets in a "HELL NO!" position.

As for the prices - I've deliberately been avoiding that, but if you pull real life examples and use them as valid, maybe you need to look at real life goods. You have stuff there which is not particularly appealing that cost more than most of the clothes I wear (and I'm a lawyer who spends a bit on presentation.

I'm sorry but this blog entry is insufficient and shows both lack of professionalism, concern and that you have lost touch with the player reality. As far as I'm concerned, "the tail does not wag the dog". Maybe you should think of actually answering question. History - past and present - has many pages written about politicians talking rubbish hoping the problem goes away... it doesn't.
This particular thing made it worse, it made me feel worse and disappointed me further, if that was possible.

Waiting for a real reaction and real answers.

TL:DR - this answers nothing, waiting for a real, concerned, reaction.

Dethmourne Silvermane
Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [276]

@CCP Manifest - can you please advise CCP Zulu that the primary concern we were waiting to have clarification on in the anticipated devblog was, in fact, whether or not non-vanity (in other words, gameplay-affecting) items would be introduced into the Noble Exchange?

I do appreciate his clarification on how Fearless works, that makes CCP Soundwave's discussion take on a new light. I personally feel that we as a community may have overreacted; however, please also try to understand (on your part as CCP) that we are generally investing our blood sweat and tears into this crazy thing called EVE in time measured in years, not months or weeks, so any hint of pay-to-win immediately calls out the torches and pitchforks.

I hope both CCP and the playerbase can calm down and discuss this like rational human beings; we've been through a lot together, and I think Incarna has provided us a peek at what could be an exciting new portion of our virtual universe.

Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [277]

New Infos from the wall of text:

"We will gradually introduce items at other price points, definitely lower and probably higher than what‘s in the store today."

Is this a joke?

Red Federation
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [278]

why the hell should virtual trousers cost the same as real ones? did you guys look **at all**

ridiculous response to some very easy to answer questions and concerns.

Smoking Blunts
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [279]

I hope I‘ve addressed your concerns and cleared up a lot of the issues you‘re having. We‘ll continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog.


Arnar Hrafn Gylfason

Senior Producer of EVE Online


do i need bigger letters or smaller words to get it through your quite clearly ******ed brain.

its not about the ****ing price of the MT shop!!

CQ breaks teh game experiance of nearly everyone i know in game. WE TOLD YOU!!!

MT for none vanity items, you said woudlnt be implemented. YOU LIED!!!

now do you understand my ****ing concern's

Jehvan Sunburnadire
The Forgotten Legion
Redrum Fleet
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [280]

Edited by: Jehvan Sunburnadire on 24/06/2011 21:15:30
You have cancelled your EVE Online subscription.

Your accounts will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on 03 July 2011 and 07 July 2011.

And what I put in the comments:

There's obviously some sort of really good crack in Iceland, which you're all smoking, because, seriously, this devblog ( is ****ing insane.

No, I don't pay more than a ****ing nuclear submarine for my clothes - which is the comparison we can draw from the exchange rate of aurum. Neither do you, and if you think you do, you need some ****ing stronger drugs.

I'm done with your bull****. You took 3 days to make a bull**** response like this? You deserve every bit of the NGE you've brought upon yourselves.

**** this nonsense. They've all gone completely insane, and I won't give my money to insane people to spend on what must be incredibly good psychadelic drugs.

Cham Palaung
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [281]

This answer is an even worse slap in our face.
You don't answer at all our concerns and you even try to make us guilty.
Never more you will get one coin from me, damn sharks.
Have fun demolishing EVE, without me.

Marcus Vorenius
Task Force 42
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [282]

Edited by: Marcus Vorenius on 24/06/2011 21:14:19
the lag in JITA was horrible so i'm a little late, my apologiese.

... which by the way is one of our more smooth and successful expansions, not to mention absolutely gorgeous ...

you are pulling the mickey right? do you really think that "gorgeous" and "smooth" should be in the same sentence when talking about Incarna? Sir, you are really out of touch with reality - I remember you from the "18-months debarcle" ... you needed Nathan to step in on that one.

You are the Senior Producer of EVE, you own the backlog and it's your responsibility that the features in EVE delivers on the business objectives you have.

That was first paragraph - i'll read the next now

Dominus Machinarum
Twilight Federation
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [283]

What a terrible response.


Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [284]

This is insulting. Add three more unsubscribes to the pile.

Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [285]

Oh my.

This will be Awesome™

Met Chabot
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:13:00 - [286]

What a half assed piece of s***

The amount of spin and bulls*** that comes from it just shows how much you really do not understand what the players are trying to tell you.

You should run for a political office, since you obviously have the double talk and lying through teeth down to a t.

Kyoko Sakoda
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [287]

When an in-game item that can be destroyed costs more than the real life counterpart ($25 for a virtual shirt/blouse?), you are seriously deluding yourselves. Take a look at the Team Fortress store to see microtransactions done right as microtransactions.

That's all I have to say. I really feel bad for you guys.

Malice Redeemer
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [288]

Canceled 2 accounts over not addressing the old ship hanger view.

Encina Technologies
Namtz' aar K'in
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [289]

Originally by: CCP Zulu
I hope I‘ve addressed your concerns and cleared up a lot of the issues you‘re having. We‘ll continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog.

Yes, in fact I do have another question, or rather, me and about 200 other posters in the other thread have a question:

Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: Cailais
Originally by: Crye MultiCam
Originally by: Da Gooch

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?

Sorry: I preserved the quote pyramid for added emphasis.

4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [290]

Originally by: Vhelia
I expected everything, but you guys never cease to amaze me !
Good job, enjoy the ****storm.
You deserve it!


Del ReyII
Shadow Research Inc
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [291]

Wow, in all my years of eve never have I seen such a disrespectful dev blog.
That was a serious 'F*** You' to the eve community.

Guess CCP of old is long gone.


Project Nemesis
Moar Tears
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [292]

poastin in threadnarok #2

Raven Lords
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [293]


You nerds are rich and wear 1000$ jeans like we at ccp all do. MT and P2W is here to stay. Learn to 'swallow' better.


Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [294]

lulz, you can sell all the vanity items you want for whatever ******ed price you want for them just want to remind you that this is not 2nd life but eve and we play this game cause we're all (more less) real geeky and like spaceships. We dont give a **** about expensive clothes.. Jesus!

What a useless blog not addresing ANY of the real concerns!!

Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [295]

I missed the blog. There were some words, but there was no meaning to them.

Just a lot of words that said nothing.

They didn't address any problems.

They didn't solve any problems.

They were truly worthless.

The only thing that blog said was:

"You are idiots."

Certainly worth the wait. It looks like all the answers are there, indeed.

Nikita Alterana
Kumiho's Smile
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [296]

I hope I‘ve addressed your concerns and cleared up a lot of the issues you‘re having. We‘ll continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog.

No, no it did not.

It did not cover:
  • Stance on MT

  • Issues with the lack of hanger

  • Issues with CQ being a PoS

  • Issues with CQ melting computers

  • Overpriced monocles

However, I will say this, the fearless newsletter, I can understand, if you had come out and said what the result of said discussion was, but no. It resolves nothing.

Oh, and


Jennifer Nardieu
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [297]

The blog paraphrased

Dear Players,

Rage Against the Machine said it best: "**** you I won't do what you tell me".


CCP Smugface

Btw how come we get profanity filters, yet its perfectly acceptable to use the word sh!t on an official public blog?

What a pointless epic waste of my time and yours.

Players: Kill the gibson.

"Row row row your boat gently down the stream..."

The post didnt answer any questions what so ever, insulted the player base, could have fit inside a twitter update and if it really took a whole hour to write that, CCP Zulu needs to migrate from hunt 'n' peck, to touch typing.

Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [298]

that was Epic Fail response


People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes. Look at the clothes you are currently wearing in real life. Do you have any specific brands? Did you choose it because it was better quality than a no-name brand? Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop

way to address the Issue
so now virtual items have been compared to real life counter parts and what it seems to be priced as equally (well CCP must be thinking of the high social club members who also like their virtual items to be branded aswell)

Cargo Container Rotation Collective
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [299]

Originally by: Reed Tiburon

Why even bother, CCP? Why not just tell us to GO **** OURSELVES?

Or would you then have to ban yourself for making threats?

Damn right

Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [300]

This got to be a joke..

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