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Rob Bowen
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:26:00 - [241]
 

Before I start my post, I must state, I completely agree with the riot. CCP are way out of line here. And banning Helicity for pointing it out was the icing on the cake.

I don't think anything will come from the protest, CCP already seemed to reinforce the trade hubs to counter the protesters. CCP would only cave if this went on for a long period of time. Up to a week or more I'd say. Which it won't, people get bored. I think the introduction of the new "AUG" currency is an outrage and goes against everything that is eve; everything in eve is player made and sold by players. Why can't clothing be the same? AUG is the start of the end of the reason why most of us love eve, a player run game.

Well CCP, the players say no to AUG. Or at the very least, no to anything other than vanity items, if your company must farm us for every last drop of real life currency you can get out of us. How will you respond?

Oranen
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 - [242]
 

Yup, haven't been able to log into Jita for over an hour - at least that's when I started trying.

Artificial Miracle
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:33:00 - [243]
 

Originally by: Rob Bowen
Before I start my post, I must state, I completely agree with the riot. CCP are way out of line here. And banning Helicity for pointing it out was the icing on the cake.

I don't think anything will come from the protest, CCP already seemed to reinforce the trade hubs to counter the protesters. CCP would only cave if this went on for a long period of time. Up to a week or more I'd say. Which it won't, people get bored. I think the introduction of the new "AUG" currency is an outrage and goes against everything that is eve; everything in eve is player made and sold by players. Why can't clothing be the same? AUG is the start of the end of the reason why most of us love eve, a player run game.

Well CCP, the players say no to AUG. Or at the very least, no to anything other than vanity items, if your company must farm us for every last drop of real life currency you can get out of us. How will you respond?


Noone forces you to use the Noble Shop Idea

Junkle Jay
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:33:00 - [244]
 

I'm loyal to EVE and CCP. I think the game is great and who am I to tell them what to do whenever I'm not there at CCP headquarters contributing my time to help them build it. For all those who are leaving EVE feel free to give me as much ISK as you want :D , long live CCP.

Natalia Kovac
Minmatar
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:37:00 - [245]
 

Self destructing all my ****ty promo ships with loot in on the statue :p

Artificial Miracle
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:37:00 - [246]
 

He he yesSmile

Long live CCP and EVE. And if you are leaving EVE - please, may I have your stuff? LaughingLaughingLaughing

Kristina Vanszar
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:37:00 - [247]
 

I hope you realise that we are eve, not ccp....
what would ccp be without the 400 k morons playing this game, and accepting the bull**** of ccp over and over again, now it's enough.

They should be concerned, becouse the mob has the power to crash TQ, i am not asking to do so, but there are people out there ****ed enough to smartbomb in jita or amarr and get they're accounts banned, especially the guys with only 2 - 3 days left on canceld subs.

o7

Khane Kournaut
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:38:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: Kristina Vanszar
Originally by: Khane Kournaut
Originally by: khac
There are two ways they can approach the MT business.

They can continue as they do now, selling purely vanity items. If this happens, I couldn't care less.

OR

They start selling advantage, in which case I'm outta here.


I'd understand your concern if it wasn't already in the game... ^^

Player A works their ass off and builds enough isk to buy a supercap.

Player B spends real money to buy GTCs, sells the plexes and buys a supercap.

How exactly is this different to the NeX situation? If Player B can buy item X with Aur - from plexes paid for with real money, Player A can still buy plexes with isk, change them to Aur and buy item X too.

Please, if I've missed some fundamental point here, explain. Otherwise, just get back to playing and enjoying the game!

A sensible and reasonable post. Although I won't necessarily leave if they do start selling advantageous items in the store, I'll be far less happy. In the meantime, I'll enjoy the game and the very pretty new station stuff.


The protest is about selling advanteges for RL cash...
i have no problem with vanity items. but I have a problem with some noobs bying ueber ships for RL cash.

If i qwouldn't care about EVE i wouldn't be doing this!

Sora Enaka
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:38:00 - [249]
 

Send me isk so i can buy pants to act the piece when i come protesting!

Hamburgg
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:39:00 - [250]
 

Edited by: Hamburgg on 24/06/2011 22:39:08
Here is a video of the protest in Jita: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfjQ_Lq9FWg

Tomaso Yoshitome
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:41:00 - [251]
 

Only solution is to totally boycott Aurum. Don't use real cash for PLEX for aurum, don't use ISK to buy aurum products. vote with your feet.

Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:42:00 - [252]
 


Nak hak
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:44:00 - [253]
 

Mad
The gamers that are united can never be defeated! Exclamation

Keep those Youtube links coming.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:45:00 - [254]
 


Rob Bowen
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:46:00 - [255]
 

All you people agreeing with CCP and its money grabbing scheming... Have you actually read the newsletter?

Newsletter

They clearly state several times how they plan to drag players in to the trap of spending real money. Even the ability to purchase faction standing with real money.

"One other service we’re looking at is selling faction standings. We want to offer convenience for a price."

They state they want buyable items to be consumables only,

"In EVE today, once a player buys a blueprint original (BPO)or a new skill, that asset or benefit cannot really be taken away... ...Destroyed ships and modules must be replaced, though, and we want to ensure that the market for most virtual purchases is similarly renewable."

Basically meaning, they want to make sure that anything bought with real money won't last.

I don't understand why people would support them when they're just trying to rob us.

Sakai Nariyama
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:47:00 - [256]
 

All of my toons came with clothes and boots. I don't understand why CCP thinks I should buy more.

Elrica bloodbane
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:50:00 - [257]
 

This can go on.
Why should we be fleeced.

I don't want to play world of darkness, or dust.
I want to play eve. I want things working properly,
and if they're not spend my subs on fixing that.
CCP's vision is not my vision. If they started a project they don't have the skills to finish, why should I pay for their mistakes.

CCP YOU ARE NOT EVE. WE ARE

Rob Bowen
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:51:00 - [258]
 

Originally by: Sakai Nariyama
All of my toons came with clothes and boots. I don't understand why CCP thinks I should buy more.


If we let them continue like this, the next thing they'll do is make everyone have the same starter clothing and make them look crappy.

Kristina Vanszar
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:54:00 - [259]
 

AMARR guys move back to JITA.
We have to keep going until our US TZ people show up.

Khane Kournaut
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:00:00 - [260]
 

Originally by: Kristina Vanszar
Originally by: Khane Kournaut
Originally by: khac
There are two ways they can approach the MT business.

They can continue as they do now, selling purely vanity items. If this happens, I couldn't care less.

OR

They start selling advantage, in which case I'm outta here.




A sensible and reasonable post. Although I won't necessarily leave if they do start selling advantageous items in the store, I'll be far less happy. In the meantime, I'll enjoy the game and the very pretty new station stuff.


The protest is about selling advanteges for RL cash...
i have no problem with vanity items. but I have a problem with some noobs bying ueber ships for RL cash.

If i qwouldn't care about EVE i wouldn't be doing this!


I'd understand your concern if it wasn't already in the game... ^^

Player A works their ass off and builds enough isk to buy a supercap.

Player B spends real money to buy GTCs, sells the plexes and buys a supercap.

How exactly is this different to the NeX situation? If Player B can buy item X with Aur - from plexes paid for with real money, Player A can still buy plexes with isk, change them to Aur and buy item X too.

Please, if I've missed some fundamental point here, explain. Otherwise, just get back to playing and enjoying the game!

Kristina Vanszar
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:02:00 - [261]
 

Originally by: Khane Kournaut
Originally by: Kristina Vanszar
Originally by: Khane Kournaut
Originally by: khac
There are two ways they can approach the MT business.

They can continue as they do now, selling purely vanity items. If this happens, I couldn't care less.

OR

They start selling advantage, in which case I'm outta here.




A sensible and reasonable post. Although I won't necessarily leave if they do start selling advantageous items in the store, I'll be far less happy. In the meantime, I'll enjoy the game and the very pretty new station stuff.


The protest is about selling advanteges for RL cash...
i have no problem with vanity items. but I have a problem with some noobs bying ueber ships for RL cash.

If i qwouldn't care about EVE i wouldn't be doing this!


I'd understand your concern if it wasn't already in the game... ^^

Player A works their ass off and builds enough isk to buy a supercap.

Player B spends real money to buy GTCs, sells the plexes and buys a supercap.

How exactly is this different to the NeX situation? If Player B can buy item X with Aur - from plexes paid for with real money, Player A can still buy plexes with isk, change them to Aur and buy item X too.

Please, if I've missed some fundamental point here, explain. Otherwise, just get back to playing and enjoying the game!


Its different becouse Player C buys a T2 Supercap off the market, which is not player built, so no player will benefit from it.
Only CCP sheveling money.

Govinda Sertan
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:04:00 - [262]
 

CCP wont listen. They treats us like dumb kidies who will blendly spend their cash anyway. Well fu CCP !

If you dont understand that we want you to actually work on your game, to make it better, then you will continue without us.

This is the last warning guys, you are crossing the red line.

Natalia Kovac
Minmatar
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:05:00 - [263]
 

Ok I self destructed everything I had within the vicinity of Jita. Now to lob cruise missles at the statue with my alt's Raven. LaughingLaughingLaughing

Norian Lonark
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:06:00 - [264]
 

Originally by: Khane Kournaut


Please, if I've missed some fundamental point here, explain. Otherwise, just get back to playing and enjoying the game!


Yes you have ATM the super cap has been created by the players using minerals, components and player skills to create that item.

If you use Aurum to buy items from the nex where have they come from? Thin Air? Bypassing the player driven economy and the sandbox.

Jade Cargo
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:07:00 - [265]
 

Originally by: Khane Kournaut

I'd understand your concern if it wasn't already in the game... ^^

Player A works their ass off and builds enough isk to buy a supercap.

Player B spends real money to buy GTCs, sells the plexes and buys a supercap.

How exactly is this different to the NeX situation? If Player B can buy item X with Aur - from plexes paid for with real money, Player A can still buy plexes with isk, change them to Aur and buy item X too.

Please, if I've missed some fundamental point here, explain. Otherwise, just get back to playing and enjoying the game!


Please don't let logic interfere with the mindless horde mentality we're all enjoying here - I plan on smashing some windows and walking off with a big flatscreen TV during while the drones riot thank you very much.

Khane Kournaut
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:09:00 - [266]
 

Originally by: Kristina Vanszar
Its different becouse Player C buys a T2 Supercap off the market, which is not player built, so no player will benefit from it.
Only CCP sheveling money.


So your fundamental issue is with CCP wanting to make some money that doesn't originate from a player made item? Like a skill book perhaps?

I refer you to the cost of the titan skill books. These are NON-PLAYER MADE, meaning the money from them go to CCP.

Again I repeat my question, how does the NeX situation differ from what is already in the game??

Harland White
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:12:00 - [267]
 

CCP, if you really start this MT crap with EVE, I will cancel my subscription. That's not an idle threat. I won't say "well, I've already devoted so much time to my character, I really shouldn't just up and quit" like you want me to. I WILL cancel my subscription, permanently, and I'll encourage everyone I know who plays EVE to follow suit.

The main thing I loved about CCP was its (seemingly) devotion to the players and the quality of EVE, and not money. If you change your vision on that, you won't get a cent of my money anymore. World of Warcraft lost my subscription years ago for the same damned reason, and I brought four of my WoW buddies with me when I left. I'll convince as many of my friends as I can to quit playing your game, and I'll spread the word.

You're not going to ruin this game without a fight.

Khane Kournaut
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:14:00 - [268]
 

Originally by: Jade Cargo
Originally by: Khane Kournaut

I'd understand your concern if it wasn't already in the game... ^^

Player A works their ass off and builds enough isk to buy a supercap.

Player B spends real money to buy GTCs, sells the plexes and buys a supercap.

How exactly is this different to the NeX situation? If Player B can buy item X with Aur - from plexes paid for with real money, Player A can still buy plexes with isk, change them to Aur and buy item X too.

Please, if I've missed some fundamental point here, explain. Otherwise, just get back to playing and enjoying the game!


Please don't let logic interfere with the mindless horde mentality we're all enjoying here - I plan on smashing some windows and walking off with a big flatscreen TV during while the drones riot thank you very much.


Thank you... my girlfriend now thinks I'm mental because I've burst out laughing!

Ezra Vouland
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:17:00 - [269]
 

Originally by: Khane Kournaut
Originally by: Jade Cargo
Originally by: Khane Kournaut

I'd understand your concern if it wasn't already in the game... ^^

Player A works their ass off and builds enough isk to buy a supercap.

Player B spends real money to buy GTCs, sells the plexes and buys a supercap.

How exactly is this different to the NeX situation? If Player B can buy item X with Aur - from plexes paid for with real money, Player A can still buy plexes with isk, change them to Aur and buy item X too.

Please, if I've missed some fundamental point here, explain. Otherwise, just get back to playing and enjoying the game!


Please don't let logic interfere with the mindless horde mentality we're all enjoying here - I plan on smashing some windows and walking off with a big flatscreen TV during while the drones riot thank you very much.


Thank you... my girlfriend now thinks I'm mental because I've burst out laughing!


^

Govinda Sertan
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:19:00 - [270]
 

Jita's protest live

Get in there, fellow angry capsuleers !


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