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Wonder Pets
Caldari
The Executioners
Posted - 2011.07.01 19:12:00 - [13351]
 

Originally by: Sahola Elva
It's a game, not a lifeline.

If you don't like it then quit.

If you want the game to be something else, write your own and market it.

If you're attached disturbingly to the game then cope with changes as they happen, or seek professional help.

This thread reads like a bunch of whining toddlers who're nervous about their dummies changing colour. Or maybe geeks trying to outdo each other in the 'outrage stakes'. Either way it improves nothing.


lol...Sahola will be the Nex store's best customer. You go girl!!! Charge it!!! CHARGE IT!!!! Buy that virtual merchandise!

Dr Sodius
Posted - 2011.07.01 19:47:00 - [13352]
 

Quote:

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?



Chiggy W
Posted - 2011.07.01 19:49:00 - [13353]
 

Originally by: Dr Sodius
Quote:

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?






I think the lack of response from CCP/CSM pretty much answers that question. The CSm meeting was nothing but a delay tactic Crying or Very sad

Tugrath Akers
Posted - 2011.07.01 19:49:00 - [13354]
 

Originally by: Dr Sodius
Quote:

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?





Please be patient. We are working to put together a response to that question. After triple review and corroboration between all departments, we should have that answer in 6-12 months.

Sheikh Yarbhouti
Posted - 2011.07.01 20:09:00 - [13355]
 

I'm starting to be convinced that "CCP Pann" is a throwaway account without a real person behind it. If you click on her portrait:

First day at CCP Unknown
Title/Department No Title/Department Found
Motto No Motto Found
Bio No Bio Found

No motto?! I mean seriously, wtf?

Malak Alraheem
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.01 20:12:00 - [13356]
 

Originally by: Sheikh Yarbhouti
I'm starting to be convinced that "CCP Pann" is a throwaway account without a real person behind it. If you click on her portrait:

First day at CCP Unknown
Title/Department No Title/Department Found
Motto No Motto Found
Bio No Bio Found

No motto?! I mean seriously, wtf?


The problem was that 'Neverland' was not an option on the location drop-down when she created her bio. I hear that is where the PR department will be coming from, so we should see it in the new forums when they launch in August.


Flaming Lemming
Caldari
Puppeteer Press
Posted - 2011.07.01 20:19:00 - [13357]
 

Originally by: Tugrath Akers
The statement should have been released before you all went barhopping tonight.

Skex Relbore
Gallente
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.07.01 20:41:00 - [13358]
 

Well there is still hope of hitting 500 pages before CCP finally answers the question.

Hel Xaphod
Posted - 2011.07.01 20:48:00 - [13359]
 

Originally by: Skex Relbore
Well there is still hope of hitting 500 pages before CCP finally answers the question.


There is still time to retire and go fishing before CCP finally answers the question.

Skex Relbore
Gallente
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.07.01 20:53:00 - [13360]
 

Originally by: Hel Xaphod
Originally by: Skex Relbore
Well there is still hope of hitting 500 pages before CCP finally answers the question.


There is still time to retire and go fishing before CCP finally answers the question.


I'm a middle class American we don't get to retire we just keep working until we keel over at our desks.

Canasa
Posted - 2011.07.01 21:00:00 - [13361]
 

Originally by: Canasa
Originally by: Saving Face
It was one simple question... fail CSM is fail.


Jeez! If you voted CSM in, you have to believe they're representing your views. If you you didn't then you've no right to complain.

Thanks for the update Trebor and GL for tomorrow. Don't forget all of us... :)


Ok - perhaps we have the right to complain now. fail it is. I was wrong - sorry!

ISO9000: Customer Focus
Organizations depend on their customers and therefore should understand current and future customer needs, should meet customer requirements and strive to exceed customer expectations.

Key benefits:
■Increased revenue and market share obtained through flexible and fast responses to market opportunities.
■Increased effectiveness in the use of the organization's resources to enhance customer satisfaction.
■Improved customer loyalty leading to repeat business.

Applying the principle of customer focus typically leads to:
■Researching and understanding customer needs and expectations.
■Ensuring that the objectives of the organization are linked to customer needs and expectations.
■Communicating customer needs and expectations throughout the organization.
■Measuring customer satisfaction and acting on the results.
■Systematically managing customer relationships.
■Ensuring a balanced approach between satisfying customers and other interested parties (such as owners, employees, suppliers, financiers, local communities and society as a whole).

Night night capsuleers - it was fun o7

Kewso
Posted - 2011.07.01 21:22:00 - [13362]
 


Flaming Lemming
Caldari
Puppeteer Press
Posted - 2011.07.01 21:22:00 - [13363]
 

Originally by: Dr Sodius
Quote:

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?




Hormus
Posted - 2011.07.01 21:24:00 - [13364]
 

A little time yet before the announcement comes out and this thread jumps instantly to a million posts and a billion views,

Once more the important question:


Quote:
Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?

Doc Fury
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.01 21:45:00 - [13365]
 

Originally by: Skex Relbore
Originally by: Hel Xaphod
Originally by: Skex Relbore
Well there is still hope of hitting 500 pages before CCP finally answers the question.


There is still time to retire and go fishing before CCP finally answers the question.


I'm a middle class American we don't get to retire we just keep working until we keel over at our desks.


They have Karoshi is the US?


Bklyn 1
Posted - 2011.07.01 21:57:00 - [13366]
 

Who uses a monocle anyway? I thought about it and the list of everyone that wears a monocle seems to limited to:
-Mr. Peanut
-1940's vintage Germans
and now
-forum trolls

That's pretty much it, as far as I know. Why a monocle?

LordMordred
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:17:00 - [13367]
 

Still looking for an answer to the ever important question.

Sparkamatron
Caldari
Union Of EVE
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:23:00 - [13368]
 

Originally by: Flaming Lemming
Originally by: Dr Sodius
Quote:

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?





Jimmy Duce
Chaotic Tranquility
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:26:00 - [13369]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
My guess is CCP does see the light on the vanity/non-vanity issue. They can't answer it as a complete no because of dust. And it has to be carefully answered as it relates to "establishments" ... just a guess, who knows.



I included Dust in the answer. If you are taking a test and someone gives you the answer would you still choose to put down the incorrect response?


Quote:

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?






Greed, is so distructive...




This question is for Eve and Eve only, I don't care if I can buy gold ammo for DUST players, as long as that isn't implemented in Eve we are cool. Hell use your legal team to come up with the answer specifying that other games that influence Eve may have gold ammo but Eve itself never will.

Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.07.01 22:50:00 - [13370]
 

Ok peoples.. My two cents about the statement and the CSM:

1- The CSM was summoned to express our concerns. They did. CCP is the one that can decide what they are going to do. The CSM can't change what CCP's decision is. Deal with it.

2- The CSM is legally obligated to STFU... That's right folks! The Non-Disclosure Agreement means that the members of the CSM can be held LEGALLY responsible for disclosing information until CCP gives them permission....

3- If you cannot understand this please GTFO of the game called life or atleast go get neutered/spayed so you can't breed your special brand of stupid........


Dev Blog/Statement:

It is very easy to answer either yes or no.... That is not the answer we are going to get. CCP's answer will be BOTH yes and no.

Here is the NO:

No we won't see WTFBBQPWN Jovian BS that can take down PL's entire SC fleet solo
No we won't see ammo that gives 5000% bonus to damage and hits for wrecking damage every time
No we won't see mods that give you a 99% bonus to resist

In other words the NO means we won't get super obvious game breakers....

Here is the YES:

Yes we will be able to buy faction standings
Yes we will see ammo that gives you a slight bonus to damage or cap usage
Yes we will see faction towers reintroduced via the Nex
Yes we will see attribute boosters and skill enhancers like Quafe Zero

Now you see why it is taking time to make the statement... CCP has to spin it in an acceptable manner so 50% of the subscribers don't rage quit.....

San Severina
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:12:00 - [13371]
 


Jimmy Duce
Chaotic Tranquility
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:14:00 - [13372]
 

Originally by: Vandrion
Ok peoples.. My two cents about the statement and the CSM:

1- The CSM was summoned to express our concerns. They did. CCP is the one that can decide what they are going to do. The CSM can't change what CCP's decision is. Deal with it.

2- The CSM is legally obligated to STFU... That's right folks! The Non-Disclosure Agreement means that the members of the CSM can be held LEGALLY responsible for disclosing information until CCP gives them permission....

3- If you cannot understand this please GTFO of the game called life or atleast go get neutered/spayed so you can't breed your special brand of stupid........


Dev Blog/Statement:

It is very easy to answer either yes or no.... That is not the answer we are going to get. CCP's answer will be BOTH yes and no.

Here is the NO:

No we won't see WTFBBQPWN Jovian BS that can take down PL's entire SC fleet solo
No we won't see ammo that gives 5000% bonus to damage and hits for wrecking damage every time
No we won't see mods that give you a 99% bonus to resist

In other words the NO means we won't get super obvious game breakers....

Here is the YES:

Yes we will be able to buy faction standings
Yes we will see ammo that gives you a slight bonus to damage or cap usage
Yes we will see faction towers reintroduced via the Nex
Yes we will see attribute boosters and skill enhancers like Quafe Zero

Now you see why it is taking time to make the statement... CCP has to spin it in an acceptable manner so 50% of the subscribers don't rage quit.....



You understand that your yes = non vanity right? And that is also a yes to the big yellow question.

Morgan Polaris
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:28:00 - [13373]
 

Edited by: Morgan Polaris on 01/07/2011 23:28:57


Still doubting people are moving on from EVE?

http://blog.perpetuum-online.com/posts/2011-07-01-movement-of-the-people/

These guys saw their stats quadruple to 850+ players.

Not everyone that unsubscribed is playing Perpetuum of course, but it's a fairly concrete sign something is up, and should have been corrected before the damage was done.

Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:32:00 - [13374]
 

Originally by: Jimmy Duce
Originally by: Vandrion
Ok peoples.. My two cents about the statement and the CSM:

1- The CSM was summoned to express our concerns. They did. CCP is the one that can decide what they are going to do. The CSM can't change what CCP's decision is. Deal with it.

2- The CSM is legally obligated to STFU... That's right folks! The Non-Disclosure Agreement means that the members of the CSM can be held LEGALLY responsible for disclosing information until CCP gives them permission....

3- If you cannot understand this please GTFO of the game called life or atleast go get neutered/spayed so you can't breed your special brand of stupid........


Dev Blog/Statement:

It is very easy to answer either yes or no.... That is not the answer we are going to get. CCP's answer will be BOTH yes and no.

Here is the NO:

No we won't see WTFBBQPWN Jovian BS that can take down PL's entire SC fleet solo
No we won't see ammo that gives 5000% bonus to damage and hits for wrecking damage every time
No we won't see mods that give you a 99% bonus to resist

In other words the NO means we won't get super obvious game breakers....

Here is the YES:

Yes we will be able to buy faction standings
Yes we will see ammo that gives you a slight bonus to damage or cap usage
Yes we will see faction towers reintroduced via the Nex
Yes we will see attribute boosters and skill enhancers like Quafe Zero

Now you see why it is taking time to make the statement... CCP has to spin it in an acceptable manner so 50% of the subscribers don't rage quit.....



You understand that your yes = non vanity right? And that is also a yes to the big yellow question.




You don't see what I did there do you??

jackaloped
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:34:00 - [13375]
 

Are we going to ever have a parley or just a statement from ccp and csm?

Balthasar Moreq
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:35:00 - [13376]
 

Originally by: Morgan Polaris
Edited by: Morgan Polaris on 01/07/2011 23:28:57


Still doubting people are moving on from EVE?

http://blog.perpetuum-online.com/posts/2011-07-01-movement-of-the-people/

These guys saw their stats quadruple to 850+ players.

Not everyone that unsubscribed is playing Perpetuum of course, but it's a fairly concrete sign something is up, and should have been corrected before the damage was done.


Fugly Avatars though.

Canasa
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:35:00 - [13377]
 

Originally by: Vandrion
Originally by: Jimmy Duce
Originally by: Vandrion
Ok peoples.. My two cents about the statement and the CSM:

1- The CSM was summoned to express our concerns. They did. CCP is the one that can decide what they are going to do. The CSM can't change what CCP's decision is. Deal with it.

2- The CSM is legally obligated to STFU... That's right folks! The Non-Disclosure Agreement means that the members of the CSM can be held LEGALLY responsible for disclosing information until CCP gives them permission....

3- If you cannot understand this please GTFO of the game called life or atleast go get neutered/spayed so you can't breed your special brand of stupid........


Dev Blog/Statement:

It is very easy to answer either yes or no.... That is not the answer we are going to get. CCP's answer will be BOTH yes and no.

Here is the NO:

No we won't see WTFBBQPWN Jovian BS that can take down PL's entire SC fleet solo
No we won't see ammo that gives 5000% bonus to damage and hits for wrecking damage every time
No we won't see mods that give you a 99% bonus to resist

In other words the NO means we won't get super obvious game breakers....

Here is the YES:

Yes we will be able to buy faction standings
Yes we will see ammo that gives you a slight bonus to damage or cap usage
Yes we will see faction towers reintroduced via the Nex
Yes we will see attribute boosters and skill enhancers like Quafe Zero

Now you see why it is taking time to make the statement... CCP has to spin it in an acceptable manner so 50% of the subscribers don't rage quit.....



You understand that your yes = non vanity right? And that is also a yes to the big yellow question.




You don't see what I did there do you??


I don't know you, but I bet you wave your hands about and spit a lot when you're shouting - and no-ones listening

Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:38:00 - [13378]
 

Originally by: Canasa
Originally by: Vandrion
Originally by: Jimmy Duce
Originally by: Vandrion
Ok peoples.. My two cents about the statement and the CSM:

1- The CSM was summoned to express our concerns. They did. CCP is the one that can decide what they are going to do. The CSM can't change what CCP's decision is. Deal with it.

2- The CSM is legally obligated to STFU... That's right folks! The Non-Disclosure Agreement means that the members of the CSM can be held LEGALLY responsible for disclosing information until CCP gives them permission....

3- If you cannot understand this please GTFO of the game called life or atleast go get neutered/spayed so you can't breed your special brand of stupid........


Dev Blog/Statement:

It is very easy to answer either yes or no.... That is not the answer we are going to get. CCP's answer will be BOTH yes and no.

Here is the NO:

No we won't see WTFBBQPWN Jovian BS that can take down PL's entire SC fleet solo
No we won't see ammo that gives 5000% bonus to damage and hits for wrecking damage every time
No we won't see mods that give you a 99% bonus to resist

In other words the NO means we won't get super obvious game breakers....

Here is the YES:

Yes we will be able to buy faction standings
Yes we will see ammo that gives you a slight bonus to damage or cap usage
Yes we will see faction towers reintroduced via the Nex
Yes we will see attribute boosters and skill enhancers like Quafe Zero

Now you see why it is taking time to make the statement... CCP has to spin it in an acceptable manner so 50% of the subscribers don't rage quit.....



You understand that your yes = non vanity right? And that is also a yes to the big yellow question.




You don't see what I did there do you??


I don't know you, but I bet you wave your hands about and spit a lot when you're shouting - and no-ones listening


Well at least your reading it... I still think item #3 applies to you however... Please contact the Vet that groomed you last to arrange for fixing...

Canasa
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:42:00 - [13379]
 

Originally by: Vandrion

Well at least your reading it... I still think item #3 applies to you however... Please contact the Vet that groomed you last to arrange for fixing...


Hehe - after seeing the results of doin' your mama, I volunteered already ;)

Yvette Online
Posted - 2011.07.01 23:47:00 - [13380]
 

I wonder if the SWG forums were this toxic during the onset of NGE.

CCP, there is NO acceptable way to implement any non-vanity microtransactions with the current game culture. Try it and your game will die.

It's that simple. Wake the f*** up.


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