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Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:47:00 - [11551]
 

I believe the trip is just designed to cool the population down a bit, give CCP the ability to say they did something (I know. Funny right?) and for them to cave a bit on pricing for Tribble Token Items. All of this to try and lower the volumn from us rabble rousers! It has even sunk to a new low.... Tons of threads are appearing praising MT and the FAIL that is Incarna. Look in the threads... These folks go silent as soon as they are challenged... I can only think of a few things that would cause this:

1--trolls----- sorry, all the usual suspects are screaming about MT and Incarna
2--Dev Alts---- It has been done before....
3--Paid forum flunkies---- happens all the time.. Companies hire PR firms to trash competitors or hype their own products...
4-- Kool-Aid drinkers---- even these guys no better then to jump into this crap-storm.....

KwaLevu
Caldari
Lost in Missions
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:47:00 - [11552]
 

Originally by: Boosthungry
Anyone know what the longest thread on these forums is?


you just posted in it :P

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:48:00 - [11553]
 

Originally by: Boosthungry
Anyone know what the longest thread on these forums is?


Prior to this, I think it was a dev blog about carriers, the jack-of-all-trades debate. Though that was some time ago, may have been another I missed.

Kaaeliaa
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:49:00 - [11554]
 

Originally by: Boosthungry
Anyone know what the longest thread on these forums is?


This one by a long shot, hence its name of "Threadgendary."

We're part of history. Isn't it fun?

More lasers!

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:52:00 - [11555]
 

Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 27/06/2011 03:00:00
Originally by: Vandrion

1--trolls----- sorry, all the usual suspects are screaming about MT and Incarna
2--Dev Alts---- It has been done before....
3--Paid forum flunkies---- happens all the time.. Companies hire PR firms to trash competitors or hype their own products...
4-- Kool-Aid drinkers---- even these guys no better then to jump into this crap-storm.....


Yep, could be. We'll never know for sure one way or another. All we know is, CCP is a corporation and its behavior, not like the independent production house of yesterday, but of a wannabe Mega Corp.

And we all know how much trust they engender.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:52:00 - [11556]
 

WE DROPPED THE PRICE!!



We listen.

Now please continue to be distracted for a month or 3 while we milk you dry

Listar Jombardo
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:53:00 - [11557]
 

I give nothink about fancy items for money. Even with enough spare money in my pockets, I'd never buy them as they are just useless junk to me.

But when CCP deside to bring usefull stuff for real money (ak items, skills, whatever) ... I have to say NO too. I pay every month allready and so simply expect to get the stuff without any more money!




PS: And still ask myselve HOW the hell someone pay 31 ACC like the guy in the list?
- RMT?
- no real life?
- scammed his alliance?
Even more what does he need so many acc for? Can be just one think: BOTing!!
Pro Tip CCP: investigate him very close!

AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:53:00 - [11558]
 

I had first post in a legend.

*sniff* I'm so happy I could cry *sniff*

Capsuleer Newton
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:54:00 - [11559]
 

Originally by: Care Bear King
Opinion Shapers? Rabble Rousers?

--- Top 20 Posters Between Pages 1 and 50
24: Miilla
21: Reed Tiburon
17: Tea Ester Elliot
17: Apollo Gabriel
17: Words Words Words
16: Soden Rah
13: Jason1138
12: Black Dranzer
12: Mehrdad Kor-Azor
12: Alexis Sachs
11: Republica Winder
10: Adunh Slavy
10: Iurnan Mileghere
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10: CCP Manifest
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10: Da Gooch
10: HoboWithAShip
10: Bloodpetal
9: SailorBacon
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--- Top 20 Posters Between Pages 331 and 380
101: Miilla
49: Constantinus Maximus
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18: Shintai
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15: Talamicus
14: Marcus Vorenius
13: Adunh Slavy
13: RougeOperator
12: Ron Whisper
12: Mia Aires
12: Londo Cebb
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11: Marc Goth
11: ISquishWorms
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--- Top 20 Posters Between Pages 1 and 380
439: Miilla
264: Constantinus Maximus
94: leth ghost
78: Isis Soryu
72: Adunh Slavy
71: Marcus Vorenius
67: Tea Ester Elliot
63: Reed Tiburon
61: Grey Stormshadow
58: Jaroslav Unwanted
50: Bloodpetal
50: Alexis Sachs
49: Shintai
48: Eladaris
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WOW!! you took the time really? meeeh, smells like a CCP plant, heheheLaughingLaughingLaughing

Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:54:00 - [11560]
 

I just want to leave everyone with my take on how LEADERSHIP at CCP feels about its players:

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Goremageddon Box
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:54:00 - [11561]
 

epic threadnaughttitandoomsdaysupercarrier is epic and should be listened to via ccp.
not only is it the biggest thread, it is most definitely the fastest growing, most viewed, and has the most different characters voicing their opinions.


this thread is in every way a record in terms of threads.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:55:00 - [11562]
 

Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 02:57:44
Originally by: Listar Jombardo
I'd never buy them as they are just useless junk to me.


This is why they're aiming at 12yos with direct access to mummy's wallet.

Useless junk?

Oh this is why it will be P2W. Can't sell useless junk so better to sell useful junk.

Originally by: Listar Jombardo
I pay every month allready and so simply expect to get the stuff without any more money!


They'll remove the subscription fee once we've finished paying for the transition.

Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:57:00 - [11563]
 

Quafe ZERO was to test the player-base reaction to a large influx of from-thin-air side-effect free boosters...

Basically they were checking how the players would react when they would introduce these booster for AUR, cause if no one complain when everyone got 6 per account then they wouldn't complain when everyone could by them for $1 a pop.

Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:57:00 - [11564]
 

Originally by: AdmiralJohn
I had first post in a legend.

*sniff* I'm so happy I could cry *sniff*


You are welcome Admiral :-)


The Doors - Riders on the Storm



kestrael nanahara
Caldari
Wrecking Shots
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:58:00 - [11565]
 

Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Quafe ZERO was to test the player-base reaction to a large influx of from-thin-air side-effect free boosters...

Basically they were checking how the players would react when they would introduce these booster for AUR, cause if no one complain when everyone got 6 per account then they wouldn't complain when everyone could by them for $1 a pop.


Makes you think about the sp injection system too dosen't it.

Comstr
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.27 02:59:00 - [11566]
 

I bought a Time card just so I could post in this thread. \


Well, that and give away my ships to members of the federation who might use them. No you can't have my stuff...the captain's closest is PREVENTING ME FROM OPENING MY ITEM HANGER.

+1 Cancelled account, soon as this time card expires.




Help us Obe 1 Mittani. You're our only hope.

AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:00:00 - [11567]
 

Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks
Originally by: AdmiralJohn
I had first post in a legend.

*sniff* I'm so happy I could cry *sniff*


You are welcome Admiral :-)



I just knew all my shiptoasting would pay off some day!

Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:05:00 - [11568]
 

Originally by: kestrael nanahara
Makes you think about the sp injection system too dosen't it.

That was most likely added for the feature CCP ran past CSM last year, where they wanted to allow returning players to buy SP they lost while being unsubscribed...

LOL, EVERYTHING CCP has been doing the last year that made no ****ing sense at all unless they were complete ******s... Now makes sense; they've already gone full ****** and somehow managed to hide it until now.

kestrael nanahara
Caldari
Wrecking Shots
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:06:00 - [11569]
 

Edited by: kestrael nanahara on 27/06/2011 03:06:53
We need to go bump the unsubscribing thread to keep it on the front page guys the ccp alts keep making threads till it hits the second page (its about to happen for the third time).

edit: somebody just posted in it but regardless my point still stands.

KwaLevu
Caldari
Lost in Missions
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:07:00 - [11570]
 

Originally by: kestrael nanahara
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Quafe ZERO was to test the player-base reaction to a large influx of from-thin-air side-effect free boosters...

Basically they were checking how the players would react when they would introduce these booster for AUR, cause if no one complain when everyone got 6 per account then they wouldn't complain when everyone could by them for $1 a pop.


Makes you think about the sp injection system too dosen't it.


tbh sp injection i dont care about vanity items too what concerns me if they introduce gold ammo , mods and ships i mean really some 1 day old player in a faction fitted CNR coz he spent 200 dollars i dont care about in fact he would be prime target for my pirate alt :)

just imagine 100s of new players paying to get skills and ships , i can taste the tears already lol

but if they introduce shop items that affect the MARKET it will be bad

Kaaeliaa
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:09:00 - [11571]
 

I'm coming out to Jita to add some beams and sparklies to the show. We can't back down now, it will look like weakness! Keep it all going, the protests, the threadgendary, everything.

We will not back down.

We will not surrender.

Care Bear King
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:09:00 - [11572]
 

Originally by: Capsuleer Newton
Originally by: Care Bear King
Opinion Shapers? Rabble Rousers?

--- Top 20 Posters Between Pages 1 and 50
24: Miilla
21: Reed Tiburon
17: Tea Ester Elliot
17: Apollo Gabriel
17: Words Words Words
16: Soden Rah
13: Jason1138
12: Black Dranzer
12: Mehrdad Kor-Azor
12: Alexis Sachs
11: Republica Winder
10: Adunh Slavy
10: Iurnan Mileghere
10: Amira Kornova
10: CCP Manifest
10: Majuan Shuo
10: Da Gooch
10: HoboWithAShip
10: Bloodpetal
9: SailorBacon
---
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--- Top 20 Posters Between Pages 331 and 380
101: Miilla
49: Constantinus Maximus
24: Angeliq
18: Shintai
17: SNeAkYbRiT
15: Gulliver Rex
15: Abrazzar
15: Talamicus
14: Marcus Vorenius
13: Adunh Slavy
13: RougeOperator
12: Ron Whisper
12: Mia Aires
12: Londo Cebb
12: leth ghost
11: Zuquar Bonaparte
11: Gil Warden
11: Nishachara
11: Marc Goth
11: ISquishWorms
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--- Top 20 Posters Between Pages 1 and 380
439: Miilla
264: Constantinus Maximus
94: leth ghost
78: Isis Soryu
72: Adunh Slavy
71: Marcus Vorenius
67: Tea Ester Elliot
63: Reed Tiburon
61: Grey Stormshadow
58: Jaroslav Unwanted
50: Bloodpetal
50: Alexis Sachs
49: Shintai
48: Eladaris
46: RougeOperator
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40: Ris Dnalor
39: Ranka Mei
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WOW!! you took the time really? meeeh, smells like a CCP plant, heheheLaughingLaughingLaughing

Nah, I had the script left over from the carrier nerf thread. I think I posted stuff like this then under the name Honest Smedley to point out certain corps/alliances whining disproportionately in that thread.

As for whether I'm a CCP plant - not so much.

Harelip Jenkins
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:12:00 - [11573]
 

The problem I see with P2W items is the slippery slope.

Lets say that the new incoming crowd of players loves the idea of being able to purchase wtfpwn guns from the NEX. They buy said guns and what's left of the player base happily ganks said noob and loots the new $hiney wtfpwn guns.

The first thing that is going to happen is that newb is going to raise holy hell that he paid cash for those guns and it isn't fair that he lost them so quickly and will refuse to buy more because its a waste of money.

Do you think CCP will protect the old dinosaur player that is damaging its new revenue stream or will rush in to protect the bottom line?

What actions do they have available to protect that revenue stream from drying up?

Mechatronicus Anihilus
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:17:00 - [11574]
 


Entirely plausible scenario Hairlip. That does beg the question of exactly how CCP would "adapt and react..."

Londo Cebb
Official Market Discussions Troll
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:17:00 - [11575]
 

Originally by: Care Bear King

Nah, I had the script left over from the carrier nerf thread. I think I posted stuff like this then under the name Honest Smedley to point out certain corps/alliances whining disproportionately in that thread.

As for whether I'm a CCP plant - not so much.


Why the jump from 50 to 331?

I'm really just curious.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:18:00 - [11576]
 

Originally by: Harelip Jenkins
The problem I see with P2W items is the slippery slope.

Lets say that the new incoming crowd of players loves the idea of being able to purchase wtfpwn guns from the NEX. They buy said guns and what's left of the player base happily ganks said noob and loots the new $hiney wtfpwn guns.

The first thing that is going to happen is that newb is going to raise holy hell that he paid cash for those guns and it isn't fair that he lost them so quickly and will refuse to buy more because its a waste of money.

Do you think CCP will protect the old dinosaur player that is damaging its new revenue stream or will rush in to protect the bottom line?

What actions do they have available to protect that revenue stream from drying up?


Exactly.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:18:00 - [11577]
 

Originally by: kestrael nanahara
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Quafe ZERO was to test the player-base reaction to a large influx of from-thin-air side-effect free boosters...

Basically they were checking how the players would react when they would introduce these booster for AUR, cause if no one complain when everyone got 6 per account then they wouldn't complain when everyone could by them for $1 a pop.


Makes you think about the sp injection system too dosen't it.


That's what lead to one of the older dev comments about no plans for MTs, if I remember correctly.

Jimmy Duce
Chaotic Tranquility
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:19:00 - [11578]
 

Rokhs, and Maels, and Abaddons oh my. Notice no Gallente Lazor boats.... Buff Gallente

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Harelip Jenkins
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:20:00 - [11579]
 

:tinfoil hat:

Honestly if think the new non-vanity items will be "contraband".

I think that was the purpose of the Quafe Zero coming out of left field... to test player reaction.

We were promised an update to contraband and i think were about to get it in the form of MT.

Bardan Asoto
Universal Freelance
CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
Posted - 2011.06.27 03:21:00 - [11580]
 

Originally by: Jimmy Duce
Rokhs, and Maels, and Abaddons oh my. Notice no Gallente Lazor boats.... Buff Gallente



Our crappy boats don't have the PG for lazors.


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