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Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:31:00 - [11431]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 27/06/2011 00:32:00

Originally by: Soul fierce
Read the hole topic. Amazing. Go on people. You have my support.

Obviously P understands only when they loose money.

I speculate that Hilmar [P] is one of the responsible for the big financial crisis in Island so he needs to gather some extra money to pay back.

Way to go my friend, way to go!!!


But but!!! CCP has done all this "research" with "outside professionals" to get metrics on the Microtransactions in Eve succeeding.!!!

They are "staying the course" and we are "very predictable".

So, they shouldn't have to bother with us at all and just deploy the system and items full speed ahead.


I think we hit that "metric" that puts WoD at risk.




Kueijin Legion
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:32:00 - [11432]
 

Originally by: Lakuma
FINAL DEVBLOG PRE-CSM-MEETING

While I encourage everyone to maintain the riot as well as this thread, please note this devblog and what is explicitly stated in it - NO GOLD AMMO IN EVE. The meeting isn't for some time - so obviously things will be cooling down. Reach 400 pages brethren! Then ensure that this stays at the top everyday until the meeting is finished!

You now have your noose secured on their neck - Make sure when they commit the crime you drop the platform.
Wonder what color it will be if not gold? Fuchsia? Mauve?

Govinda Sertan
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:32:00 - [11433]
 

Originally by: Popsikle
You really should read, would not want you sounding ******ed or anything....

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=925

Quote:
Bottom line: Code written in Stackless Python can only execute as fast as your fastest CPU core can go. A 4 or 8 CPU big-iron server will burn up a single CPU and leave the others idle, unless we span more nodes to harness the other CPUs, which works well for a lot of the logic in EVE which is stateless or only mildly reliant on shared state but presents challenges in logic which is heavily reliant on shared state, such as space simulation and walking around space stations.


then later in the blog....

Quote:
If it forwards it, this happens in-place off the GIL; Machonet/Python is never invoked. This means our Proxies can route BlueNet packets entirely in parallel, and without the overhead of thunking to Python or de-pickling/re-pickling the data. How effective is this? We're not sure yet, but its somewhere between "unbelievably stunning" and "impossibly amazing" reductions in lag and machine load for systems where this is applicable. Seriously we can't publish findings yet, we don't believe them.


They had to do ALL this crap to make incarna work, which turns out to have MAJOR benis for us who like spaceships. Seriously READ THE BLOG.


Yep, that's what i feared : no point as been made here.

Yeah they worked to make Incarna, but again, for what purpose ? What gamer actually asked for a "Sims-in-space" extension to Eve ?
Seriously : it's so useless, ineffective, badly optimized, that it's a shame. And the fact you get a door pic when you desactive shows what we can expect for the future.

Incarna is only the top of the incoming iceberg : the new AUR-based economy.

Jeff Geoff
Gallente
Reprocity
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:33:00 - [11434]
 

Hmmm - I dont like the Captain's quarters, the focus of my game play is the ship I am in, even in station, not how a toon is dressed. Anyway the quarters seem full of fleas, my toons do nothing but scratch.

As a successful trader I find the concept of aurum frustrating. It means I have to turn hard earned cash or long worked for isk into a plex to buy ..... clothes?!? Gametime yes but rags for my back? No thanks got them already.
Hey, I buy and sell anything in game in a virtual sense but if I have to start buying virtual whatevers to gain an advantage over other players then CCP have created an arms race - they always end up in bankruptcy btw, moral and financial. Aurum trades one way only, cash does not work like that unless you are a slave paid company money that is only spendable in the company store.

I think CCP should shelve the Captain's quarters and get some pest control into their own environment. Aurum should be scrapped as it acts mainly as a cash injection into the coffers of CCP. Isk should be used for everything. There might be something to be said for getting a "resurrection shir"t that makes you unpoddable (extreme example) but only if such can be earned through normal game mechanics.

Worst scenario - a noob with far too much disposable income joins the game and with $1000 cash purchases a tengu killer navy velator and all the advanced T3 mods and T3 ammo he can afford, leaves his quarters and causes mayhem in system. A scratch fleet of 30 players manages to kill him. He wants his money back, he did not pay all that to get ganked like that! .... the game has become a shoot em up with all that that entails.

Good luck in sorting the mess of your own making out, CCP, gaming on the Internet is changing. I don't think your present customer base will buy into what you plan and I don't think your brand new game plan will attract the numbers you would hope for. Eve is about PvP, in ships, in the markets, in 0.0 and Empire space, in obscure worm holes, in building war machines fed by a military industrial conflict, in detecting spies and running your own intelligence operations, in devising scams ..... the list goes on, limited only by player ingenuity.

Your virtual fashion show (and being charged thru the nose for it) is a non starter in my opinion. Anyone buying your monacle is likely to become a laughing stock (unless it lets u scan cargos - but then you are breaking your own rules, by selling game items for cash).

I think there will be more player protests. You are threatening everything they have striven and worked for, over many years in some cases.
Jeff

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:33:00 - [11435]
 



CSM has been recalled to an Emergency meeting for two days, so they can thrash out the details... Top priority is fleshing out which colour the ammo should be.


chainedtofate
Caldari
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:34:00 - [11436]
 

i liked eve because it had no p2w aspect when i came to eve from another f2p and p2w model it was a refreshing change. i just pay my sub and train and i can be stronger and someone who started yesterday can't come in plop down a few bucks and be stronger then anyone even if they have been playing for years. i love this game if the mt are limited to cosmetic not game altering stuff then fine. i will be waiting to see the results of the csm meeting. and hope for the best but will expect the worst.

Govinda Sertan
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:35:00 - [11437]
 

Originally by: Miilla

CSM has been recalled to an Emergency meeting for two days, so they can thrash out the details... Top priority is fleshing out which colour the ammo should be.



Seems like gold is now out of the question.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:36:00 - [11438]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 27/06/2011 00:37:56



It's not GOLD, its YELLOW!

I can see why CCP was upset, we kept accusing them of wanting to sell us GOLD AMMO, I would be upset too :(


chainedtofate
Caldari
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:38:00 - [11439]
 

Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 27/06/2011 00:35:59



It's not GOLD, its YELLOW!



what ever color they call their special ammo its still crap. and will ruin an otherwise good game

Moon Shadowfall
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:39:00 - [11440]
 

Would you all do me a favor and check out my post...on page one bot or page two atm...I'm curious if this could be what is going on. It may explain CCP closed mouths amid the craziness...

Title:

Eve's future and why it is good (Is this what's going on?)
thanks.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:39:00 - [11441]
 



If you read his "memo" you will see that he is not upset because of us, he is upset because of the "internal trust issue" of the plan being leaked and we found out about it BEFORE THEY WANTED TO TELL US.


RougeOperator
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:41:00 - [11442]
 

Originally by: Miilla


If you read his "memo" you will see that he is not upset because of us, he is upset because of the "internal trust issue" of the plan being leaked and we found out about it BEFORE THEY WANTED TO TELL US.




Yeah it was clear to me he didnt give a damn a bout the players.

Katra Novac
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:41:00 - [11443]
 

Originally by: Miilla


If you read his "memo" you will see that he is not upset because of us, he is upset because of the "internal trust issue" of the plan being leaked and we found out about it BEFORE THEY WANTED TO TELL US.




He's upset because of the internal trust issue, that's a laugh.

He does not exactly inspire trust.

Arvir Aris
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:42:00 - [11444]
 


Jimmy Duce
Chaotic Tranquility
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:42:00 - [11445]
 

Originally by: chainedtofate
Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 27/06/2011 00:35:59



It's not GOLD, its YELLOW!



what ever color they call their special ammo its still crap. and will ruin an otherwise good game



Let's take this to Eleven people


Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:43:00 - [11446]
 

Ok, I'm noticing some bad vibes in this thread so I'm posting good vibes Very Happy

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Seako
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:48:00 - [11447]
 

I see Mr Zulu made yet another useless blog about absolutely nothing!

Kilmiester
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:49:00 - [11448]
 

Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Ok, I'm noticing some bad vibes in this thread so I'm posting good vibes Very Happy

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.


Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on me!

chainedtofate
Caldari
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:49:00 - [11449]
 

Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Ok, I'm noticing some bad vibes in this thread so I'm posting good vibes Very Happy

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.


lol enough with the pony's... but still lol

kestrael nanahara
Caldari
Wrecking Shots
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:49:00 - [11450]
 

Originally by: Seako
I see Mr Zulu made yet another useless blog about absolutely nothing!


Indeed you've missed a critical development.

Kaaeliaa
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:50:00 - [11451]
 

I'm staring at a brown wall so my poor, overworked GeForce 9500M doesn't melt itself from rendering my character...sitting on a couch. Wait, what?

CCP, quit trying to find ways to milk more money out of EVE and make the game better. It's pretty simple. You stop sucking, we'll keep paying you. Do we really have to show you that without the veterans, there won't be much of a game? Who will mine the ores, refine the minerals, invent the blueprints, manufacture the ships, and transport the goods when you change the game to try and attract the gormless, ADD-riddled masses who just want to hop in a ship and shoot things?

You gave the playerbase a huge sandbox and they created a great experience. In the end, you make the tools, but the players make the game. We may make it unforgiving, we may make it hard to learn, we may make it difficult to relate to...but we can make it a hell for everyone, too. Don't make us do that.

Gutuie
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:51:00 - [11452]
 

Edited by: Gutuie on 27/06/2011 00:51:30
Originally by: Govinda Sertan
Originally by: Miilla

CSM has been recalled to an Emergency meeting for two days, so they can thrash out the details... Top priority is fleshing out which colour the ammo should be.



Seems like gold is now out of the question.


oh yeah king shout all peasants from csm come in 2 days here
and those csm guys drop all , jump in plane and go iceland... right csm ppl got no life? and btw going to iceland is not like taking a taxi and go shopping those guys got also their own life
I doubt they will change mind, they call csm for negociation this mean they will drop some future but MT remain.
If it was not about negociation 1 simple post on forum was faster and cheeper then plain tickets

Ghard Eleran
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:53:00 - [11453]
 

wait a sec did they call us cow's? am angry all over again!!

Manos Heimenbarger
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:53:00 - [11454]
 

Unfortunately the devblog does not say no gameplay-affecting items. It says there are no plans for gameplay-affecting items. Look at what they said one year ago, as has been posted so many times already.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1341909&page=1#7

"We do not have plans to go microtransaction with EVE."

One year later, we have an microtransaction store.

I do not deny that this is progress, but it still fails to give me any real confidence. My account stays unsubbed until at least after the CSM meeting.

Carli Zandrya
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:53:00 - [11455]
 

CCP YOUR PLAYERS ARE STILL BLEEDING

Not even a rogue dissenter to an obvious gag order, no conscientious objectors?!?

Every minute you remain silent you prove our point and dig the grave deeper.



Gutuie
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:54:00 - [11456]
 

Originally by: Ghard Eleran
wait a sec did they call us cow's? am angry all over again!!


moooo

aye milkingcow

moooo

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:54:00 - [11457]
 

Originally by: Ghard Eleran
wait a sec did they call us cow's? am angry all over again!!


No! We are Geese! Golden ones Cool

RougeOperator
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:55:00 - [11458]
 

Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Ghard Eleran
wait a sec did they call us cow's? am angry all over again!!


No! We are Geese! Golden ones Cool


And they thought it would be a good idea to split us open to figure out how we make those golden eggs.

Only now the goose is dead and no longer making eggs for them.

Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:56:00 - [11459]
 

This thread is awesome. No fancy 3D but full of free content and feelings :-)




Zero GodOfDestruction
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:58:00 - [11460]
 

What happened to the live stream of the jita protest? I used the link i had before and now it is a recorded 2hr video. Did ccp gag the person streaming it?


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