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Rykuss
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:33:00 - [1021]
 

Originally by: MorbidSpawn
Originally by: Rykuss
Originally by: Miilla
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Mmmmkay...you got to tell off someone from teh ebil ccp and cancelled your subs. You did cancel, right? kthxbai!! Laughing




This post is irrelevant and does not help. Why are you calling upset players TROLLS? You are the troll if anything. GTFO. Evil or Very Mad


Doesn't matter what you lot call it, you're over reacting. This has been an asshat campaign from the beginning, nothing more. Same whiney juvenile antics, same entitlement filled rage threadsnaughts. Different day. Oh and make me, you're tough guy avatar doesn't scare me.

Pitt
Gallente
Dashavatara
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:33:00 - [1022]
 

Hi Pann, nice to see you on the forums again.

I don't post much, hardly ever. But, I feel like something needs to be said.

I have been here in eve and active for 8 years now and have enjoyed the game more than words can express. The people who made eve and the people who play eve have always felt like a tight community. Always having each others backs and depending on each other. All of us here knew we were the outsiders to the standard mmo. We pride ourselves on being smart, patient, and at times cut throat. We would thumb our noses at wow and those other big game companies who were only out to make money off their sheep of subscribers. Because, we EvE'ers were all here for the game, the harsh and cold internet space ships game.

Sadly that is not the case anymore, in perception or reality. I can't point to an exact moment where it happened, a specific thing that lead to where we are now. But, It doesn't mean that we're not where we are. I'm afraid that you have broken the one game mechanic that no patch can fix or or balance. You broke our trust.

I understand and have always understood that ccp is a business and as such needs to make a profit. All of us here understand that. What we don't understand is why you destroy what took all these years to make by betraying the people who stood by you year after year. We helped make this game what it is as much as any developer. While it is your game, we always felt it was "our" game. I will wait to see what transpires from all this, the fallout, what changes happen if any.

But, right now it feels exactly the same as when a corp theft happens by someone you thought a friend. Perhaps that is the main and last lesson to learn here in EvE online, trust no one.


Hester Shaw
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:34:00 - [1023]
 

Jesus christ, charge Aur for the privelige of changing font size, I've read this entire thread and am mightily sick of self-important asswipes who think that if they make text bigger they become more relevant.

Myra2007
Millstone Industries
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:34:00 - [1024]
 

Originally by: CCP Soundwave

I would like virtual goods sales in EVE. In fact, I’d like to sell a lot more than vanity items.




CCP Soundwave (lead game designer)


Jimmy Duce
Chaotic Tranquility
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:34:00 - [1025]
 

Originally by: Maziy
Originally by: Scoper's Alt
Originally by: Fi1ippo
Originally by: Iurnan Mileghere

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?







The correct answer here will win some of your customers back.




Is this the quote?

Katra Novac
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:34:00 - [1026]
 

Originally by: Manos Heimenbarger

I have to wonder if they simply can't answer no, and are now trying to best word a reply to allow them to do so later.



The likely answer is they don't have an answer at this present time because it not a question they can answer. If it had been discussed already by them it should be an easy enough question to answer.


Question is of course 'Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?'

Ryleee
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:34:00 - [1027]
 

Originally by: BeanBagKing
Quote:

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?




This, but more importantly, whatever your answer, how will we trust you?

http://hosted.corelicorp.net/micro.jpg

Lelob
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:34:00 - [1028]
 

Originally by: Troy LS
1. NO MT. NONE. ZERO. Take a big step back and listen to the people who are paying your salaries and funding your future developments. Last week you might have had a grudging acceptance of MT for vanity items. This week (post leak), CCP can't be trusted to introduce MT without considerable suspicion about its ulterior motives. When I see a garauntee from CCP that MT for strategic items will not be introduced without retroactively reimbursing current players for their subscriptions to this day, I'll consider renewing my subscription. Put that garauntee in your EULA. Until then, you won't have my trust.


http://hosted.corelicorp.net/micro.jpg

Quoting post and image. Your words mean nothing. Actions are all you have left. Close down the AUR store if you mean business. Otherwise, the only logical conclusion to be made, regardless of what you may say, will be that micro-transactions will only continue to grow.

Also, we're tired of our subs funding WoD and Dust. We want to play EVE, and have all of our subs go right back into EVE, so we don't get half baked expansions.

Maeleos Strom
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:35:00 - [1029]
 

Its one thing to break a game.
Its one thig to break your player base.

But when you break the game and the player base at the same time and unite the entire Eve community under a single flag.....dear god....you have incured the wrath of many many angry gamers.....GG CCP.....

Republica Winder
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:35:00 - [1030]
 

Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: AdmiralJohn
Edited by: AdmiralJohn

Do you have any definitive idea of the future of Aurum?

Aurum is here to stay. The cycle here isn't changing soon.




Then this conversation is pointless.

WHAT PART OF WE DONT FRIGGING WANT THIS can't you understand?
Sorry, but this is non negotiable. RMT goes. We also need to have a debate on whether PLEX stays or not.

Quote:

However, I feel like none of the concerns of the community have been addressed. Worse, I feel like these concerns are being swept under the rug, and even treated with outright contempt.



You think?!!! What we want hasn't even been CONSIDERED by CCP. You hold us completely in contempt, You see us as wallets to be tapped.

Quote:

That was not on purpose and I sincerely apologize for that. We've asked you guys to digest a lot of very quick changes and did a suboptimal job at walking beside you during the past month. Dev blogs and test servers and AT interviews and such didn't quite cut it for everything. There is NO contempt against our players.I've witnessed some extreme amounts of exhibited patience for the nastiest of the nasties who have threatened lives, engaged in character assassination and such--and that's because we as developers realize there are a lot of hurt/angry people out there.



What you've done is stick a knife in the golden goose. We aren't going to talk about this. You are going to UNDO THIS. Or else. My accounts are still canceled and will remain so unless you do.

Quote:

Features that many players want are ignored, while decisions that are questionable at best are made without regard to the concerns of the community.
I won't make excuses for those features we know are much wanted or the ones people want us to go back and "fix". Heck, I want some of them. Soundwave and Eyjo and Dropbear and TonyG and Fallout want them too. BUT, making and designing and creating a game isn't pick and choose, especially when it comes to introducing something like Incarna or devoting significant dev time to rewriting old code backbone so we can grow again in the future. We know the other stuff is wanted. We know Incarna is also wanted and are working towards what many of you have wanted out of it. It just takes time.

I don't think that it's too late to save this special little den of internet spaceships and internet spaceship captains; however, this trend cannot go on forever and it has all the signs of fail cascade written all over it.
Word.



It's entirely too late if you expect us to accept aurum and your cash shop ambitions. We aren't going to. Certainly not in the way you've presented it so far. Do you really thing PR can fix this? No, it can't.

The way I see it, our demands are:

1. Removal of Aurum/Cash Shop immediately.

2. Placement of the cash shop items into blueprints, seeded in game.

3. Reinstatement of the pre-Incarna station interface, or at least allow us to chose between them.

4. A binding commitment to NOT introduce any more forms of RMT into EVE than we had pre-Incarna. If you want to add RMT, the other two games you have in development are the appropriate places to introduce it. Not an 8 year old sandbox game.

We are at an impasse the way I see it. You guys won't go back on your wallet **** scheme, we won't reinstate our accounts. If it is to be a siege, I think we can outlast you...


Algathas
Minmatar
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:35:00 - [1031]
 

Edited by: Algathas on 24/06/2011 02:38:45

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?


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Soden Rah
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:35:00 - [1032]
 

Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Majuan Shuo
Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 24/06/2011 01:18:12
Originally by: CCP Pann

Hi, everyone

As I see it, the chief complaint is regarding the high cost of goods in the Nobel Market.




Then you are blind, go get us someone else. Rolling Eyes



You have to admit that some people are vexed about the high cost of the monocle... but not because they would buy one at 3/4 the cost.

I think Pann might have mistyped (as she did with Nobel/Noble) and put that instead of NeX/Microtransaction. That's the chief concern atm, and of course there are the other more immediate ones and of course the longer tail concerns that many of you have mentioned here.


the price of stuff in the NEX is not even close to being a chief concern... a can't comprehend how you think that...
I mean its ridiculous...
but its the existence OF the NEX and the plans for it that are the problem...
The prices are irrelevant. (although 3/4 are you kidding, the monocle would be overpriced at 1 AUR, you are at least 2~3 orders of magnitude too expensive in the NEX)


Also I am one of those who really want Incarna... but it HAS TO BE OPTIONAL and improve not Destroy immersion.


and again if MT stays, I don't... so bring on someone with the power to KILL AUR and the NEX.

Iurnan Mileghere
Singularity Foundation
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:35:00 - [1033]
 

Originally by: HoboWithAShip
Originally by: Iurnan Mileghere

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?




I honestly don't even think it matters anymore. If they haven't answered "No" yet, then it means that they are probably working out a way to circle around the question.


The answer is in tomorrow's dev blog. We will see.

Garresh
Minmatar
Opposite of Low
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:35:00 - [1034]
 

All of those things are inconveniences at worst. Yeah, there's a lot of rage there, but absolutely NOTHING compared to the realization of the new direction eve is taking with regards to microtransactions affecting eve.

If you add even ONE module that has slightly lower fitting requirements than a normal module, you're effectively killing off the faction and deadspace market for that module class. As microtransactions are based on frequent updates, any placement of "Better" modules, even if it's merely a fitting bonus, will ANNIHILATE whatever niche markets it is associated with. Highsec exploration could die out overnight with only a few such modules released.

While mission runners have a more flexible amount of loot at their disposal through loyalty point stores, the same is true of any ships released via microtransactions. Again, even the slightest increase in effectiveness or "leniency" in fitting renders most mission boats and faction boats obsolete, but cutting into mission runner profits and threatening their current mission boats as viable tools. Remember, if a ship has better cpu and powergrid, or naturally tanks better, that FREES UP RESOURCES TO ADD MORE DAMAGE MODULES AND HIGHER POWER WEAPONS. For all those who say that a drake cannot put out good damage, they forget that for most missioners(and wormholers) a drake tanks so easily that it leaves many slots open for BCU IIs.

Even "convenience" features will threaten the open economy. The reason is that convenience modules and tools are inherently designed to save time and effort. Remember oppurtunity cost? By saving time or effort, that INCREASES the resources a player can put into other things, such as speedrunning missions, running plexes, mining, or whatever else. Base profit values are MEANINGLESS without given a time frame as context, and ALL convenience tools inherently serve to same time. Even if you don't increase their income at all, the reduction of time serves to multiply income simply because it takes less time to do what they do now.(Simple comparison: If gyrostabs only reduced cycle time of weapons, they'd STILL be providing tangible increase to dps output. Same principle with convenience items on any source of income)

And finally, Faction standings. By making them available to players through real cash, you threaten ANOTHER subsection of eve online. I'm not just talking dedicated mission runners. I'm also referring to the less well known "Ready made corps" and jump clone services, which allow players of crappy stadings to acquire jump clones and highsec stations. It's a niche market, but again, one that would be stomped out by a "convenience" feature.


Summary: Eve has simply too many playstyles, subsections, and niche markets which would be destroyed by ANY feature which affected in game mechanics. Eve can't handle that kind of design philosophy. The economy of eve is fragile enough as is. Don't put us in that situation.

Anorganic
Gallente
Anakites
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:35:00 - [1035]
 

I own two computers that i play eve on. After the patch only 1 computer would play the game even though both exceed the minimum requirements. After multiple bluescreens i finally got both of them to work, they both run hot as hell though. (No i'm not an idiot, my computer is clean) So yeah i'm mad, i'm not going to spend 3k on a new computer to run a game, the game can go to hell if thats the case.

I couldn't care less about buying clothes, hell i didn't even have an avatar until a couple weeks before this expansion. I care about spaceships, not being pimp. If i wanted to be a pimp on the internet i'd play secondlife so this expansion couldn't be more of a step in the wrong direction for me. Not to mention we can't change anything in the quarters, nobody can see our quarters, they're not our quarters in most cases as our races quarters arn't finished, we can't really play the game in them as eve is about spaceships, and they add to the lag problem. Isn't that something ccp is trying to fix? You show epic fleet battles that can't even be had because of the lag problem, and instead of fixing that core issue you add to the problem.

I could go on restating things that have been said many times, but that would be a waste. I hope you and CCP rethink what you've done here and do the right thing.


Words Words Words
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:35:00 - [1036]
 

Originally by: Ryleee
Originally by: BeanBagKing
Quote:

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?




This, but more importantly, whatever your answer, how will we trust you?

http://hosted.corelicorp.net/micro.jpg


Reed Tiburon
Caldari
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:36:00 - [1037]
 

Originally by: Maziy
Originally by: Scoper's Alt
Originally by: Fi1ippo
Originally by: Iurnan Mileghere

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?







The correct answer here will win some of your customers back.


Fi1ippo
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:36:00 - [1038]
 

Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Originally by: SailorBacon

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?




Nor Tzestu
Amarr
Boxwater Intelligence
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:36:00 - [1039]
 

YOUR BEING TROLLED!!!

Tomorrow CCP announces they won't be bringing any non vanity items to eve. Well they had planned to of course, but with the storm currently brewing they see the folly in their way. To be honest I think the memo was just that. A way to spark conversation in house. I don't fault them for that. Hell what a lot of you think would be gamebreaking I am fine with. Neural remaps? Sure, what do I care if someone wants to pay money to grab a point or two in perception. Monocles at $60? I could care less, I don't have to buy it. More power to them if they fix their pricing so people do buy them. CQ is kind of clunky and pretty bare, I am sure it will grow and the code will get smoother. My machine runs it fine so meh.

In the mean time they have put their "Brand" in the hurt locker. The PR nightmare that is coming really sucks cause most of the eve community has this sense of entitlement that is mindblowing. I personally am fine with Incarna, MT's for Vanity/non combat stuff etc. If they add stuff in game that "helps" PVP for money? Eh, guess I'll be at a disadvantage. Oh well. I'm at one now as SP pretty much trumps isk/skill till you get to a certain point anyhow. I could get all emo and butthurt but what happens will happen. You can all quit before you even know whats coming like a 15 year old, or see what's actually going to happen then make a decision like an adult would.

I do find it funny how mad some of the biggest trolls/griefers/"meta" in this game are though. Hardcore PVP/Gank tears clearly are the tastiest, just ask Soundwave. Keep crying like the "carebears" you all target. Things change, even the rules you like.

So show me on the dolly where the bad CCP touched you, and can I has your stuff?

Jimmy Duce
Chaotic Tranquility
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:36:00 - [1040]
 

Originally by: Republica Winder

It's entirely too late if you expect us to accept aurum and your cash shop ambitions. We aren't going to. Certainly not in the way you've presented it so far. Do you really thing PR can fix this? No, it can't.

The way I see it, our demands are:

1. Removal of Aurum/Cash Shop immediately.

2. Placement of the cash shop items into blueprints, seeded in game.

3. Reinstatement of the pre-Incarna station interface, or at least allow us to chose between them.

4. A binding commitment to NOT introduce any more forms of RMT into EVE than we had pre-Incarna. If you want to add RMT, the other two games you have in development are the appropriate places to introduce it. Not an 8 year old sandbox game.

We are at an impasse the way I see it. You guys won't go back on your wallet **** scheme, we won't reinstate our accounts. If it is to be a siege, I think we can outlast you...






I don't believe that is "our" demands.

Kewso
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:36:00 - [1041]
 

Please add more options like gambling with Aurum and more items to purchase like ships and modules!!!




Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:36:00 - [1042]
 

Originally by: Tea Ester Elliot
...

I get the fact that the internal gears are still spinning on this stuff, but the hot-button issue is obviously the expansion of AURUM into non-vanity areas of the game. This is not a difficult or complex metaphysics question. It's a yes/no question. We know from the PDF you have the plans already, most likely have the stuff being worked on as we speak. All we want to know is, will you turn around on the issue we hate or are you going to continue on?

Bottom line, if you are not CRYSTAL clear on the fact you will never expand AURUM in that manner: all of these angry users are gone for good.

There are so many posts in this thread that I could quote, but this is the most important one.

CCP: define exactly what you are going to do with Aurum. No vague half answers. I've lived through 3 years of buggy unstable patches, balance issues that lie uncorrected for years, CCP's unwillingness to listen to player concerns, yet I've stuck with EVE because I love the game. Now I'm finished. Along with thousands of others I unsubbed my accounts and they will stay unsubbed until I see CCP willing to change its direction.

CCP: You are killing that game. CQ hardly works on my modern hardware and looks like total rubbish when it does. And you spent 5 years working on this??????

CCP: The internal newsletter was a slap in our faces. We already pay subscriptions that amount to many hundreds of Dollars per year, and now you want even more money???????? That newsletter broke the most basic of trust that there was between the community and CCP. You can NOT fix that trust with vague apologies and then carrying on as you were.

CCP: This is your NGE moment. You still have the chance, albeit a tiny one, to turn this around.

CCP: For my part you've got 9 days in which to answer these fundamental questions until my subs run out. Then I'm gone for good.

Ianus
Caldari
Geminus Gateway
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:36:00 - [1043]
 

Originally by: Seleene
Valerie,

If you really want to understand how a lot of folks feel in a short amount of time, I suggest you read this as it sums up a lot of player feelings:

Originally by: Jade Constantine

(...)

CCP could have made it optional and given us the option of keeping the old hanger view and added a “disembark ship” option to the UI but “oh no” to do that would have meant we weren’t being forced to look the vanity display case that marketing insisted must be front and centre if we’re to even think about buying these ridiculously overpriced items from the Noble store.

(...)

I don’t want to see Eve Online die Verone. That sounds dramatic I know, but gameworlds die when the dreams and visions are extinguished and that can happen through a succession of bad ideas foisted on a community by people who really don’t have much of a clue in business.



The first paragraph of Constantine's quote is pretty much my main beef with Incarna 1.0. For those who are actually playing the game right now instead of surfing the forums or reading leaked documents, this must be the biggest issue with this release.

It makes absolutely no sense for a pilot to always disembark his/her ship, like when refitting a module or taking on a mission. I'm sure people who spend lots of time on stations, such as traders, will enjoy the change of scenery. But everyone else seems to want their spinning ship most of the time, and sometimes go to CQ to fool around with their virtual doll.

Fix this and it'll go a long way towards mending relations with a good portion of your playerbase (even if it won't bring back all those dead GPUs, may they rest in peace).

On the 2nd quoted paragraph: It ain't all that far-fetched. When Greed & Incompetence are combined for any length of time you risk serious damage to your enterprise, and you've had a bit of both for a while now.

Frumentarii
Gallente
Bellum Aeternus
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:36:00 - [1044]
 

Hi Pann,

You are taking a lot of heat right now, which is mostly unfair since you are not the one ultimately responsible for the true target of our angst. While I do not like the fact that you as a Community Manager deliberately decided not to engage your customers when they had concerns, you were not the one that caused these real concerns in the first place. Angry customers have the right to be heard, and ignoring in the hope that they "calm down" just gives them yet another issue to make them even angrier about. I strongly recommend that the next official response is not as delayed or as indistinct. The fact that you have at least said "I hear you" will go a long way towards diffusing the anger felt over legitimate complaints being ignored, but it does nothing to solve the anger felt of the real concerns that are the true issue here.

Having read this thread and seen the large volume of detailed summaries of the many complaints, I do not want to waste everyone's time by restating what has already been already eloquently said.

What I do want you to know that this is probably only my 3rd or 4th post on the EVE forums in over 5 years of playing. Having people like me feeling obligated to respond is not a good sign of the current situation.

P.S. The high price of goods is not the chief complaint.

Drew442
Caldari
None More Negative
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:37:00 - [1045]
 

Originally by: Herakales
So, someone needs to get the "Big Guy" on the horn.....get him on a website ...with the CSM round table.....and field internet given questions from the EVE community. No Bull****, no doctoring, LIVE and in person. Tell us what's going, what the rational was/is and where it's going from here. EVE was supposed to be 'Emergent game play' remember all that you spouted CCP? Where is Incarna Emergent? How does it alter and add to player choices?


This right here. Accountability. Now.

Here's what CCP can do, right now, in this order:

- Man up & come clean. About everything.

- Want lag gone? Get on a real backend database. Screw SQL Server. Use a mainframe. Tandem even. Or a large AIX server. Buy one. Put game on it. Now.

- Not one more graphical enhancement until every single back end issue (hybrid damage, missiles, T3 & POS, I can't list it all or else I'd die of old age) is fixed, forever. Every. Single. Issue.

- Fire whomever came up with space barbies. I'm not here to play Sims 5: 3800 AD. Screw poker, laser tag, fashion shops, fistfighting, etc. etc. etc. SPACESHIPS.

- I explained to my *wife* I could buy either a monocle or a NICE T2 / faction ship, and she even got it. First words out of her mouth were "So you're leaving then?" Honestly?? Who was the QA GENIUS that just failed to make that basic comparison? 1 monocle, or a bunch of HACs?? Or a Machariel (maybe 2)?

6 accounts, not funding anything else until I see WTF is going to happen.

HoboWithAShip
They That Are
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:37:00 - [1046]
 

Originally by: Nor Tzestu
YOUR BEING TROLLED!!!

Tomorrow CCP announces they won't be bringing any non vanity items to eve. Well they had planned to of course, but with the storm currently brewing they see the folly in their way. To be honest I think the memo was just that. A way to spark conversation in house. I don't fault them for that. Hell what a lot of you think would be gamebreaking I am fine with. Neural remaps? Sure, what do I care if someone wants to pay money to grab a point or two in perception. Monocles at $60? I could care less, I don't have to buy it. More power to them if they fix their pricing so people do buy them. CQ is kind of clunky and pretty bare, I am sure it will grow and the code will get smoother. My machine runs it fine so meh.

In the mean time they have put their "Brand" in the hurt locker. The PR nightmare that is coming really sucks cause most of the eve community has this sense of entitlement that is mindblowing. I personally am fine with Incarna, MT's for Vanity/non combat stuff etc. If they add stuff in game that "helps" PVP for money? Eh, guess I'll be at a disadvantage. Oh well. I'm at one now as SP pretty much trumps isk/skill till you get to a certain point anyhow. I could get all emo and butthurt but what happens will happen. You can all quit before you even know whats coming like a 15 year old, or see what's actually going to happen then make a decision like an adult would.

I do find it funny how mad some of the biggest trolls/griefers/"meta" in this game are though. Hardcore PVP/Gank tears clearly are the tastiest, just ask Soundwave. Keep crying like the "carebears" you all target. Things change, even the rules you like.

So show me on the dolly where the bad CCP touched you, and can I has your stuff?


The problem is that it never should have been a discussion to begin with.

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:37:00 - [1047]
 

God, it's just that it could've been handled so much god damned better, you know?

You know what you could have done if you'd really wanted to switch business models? Extend the free trial to be indefinite, cut the train speed for trial accounts in half, and split PLEX to be paid for in 24 hour segments.

Instead, we got this. Ugh.

Torn Slightly
Minmatar
Nephite Rangers
Zero Hour Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:37:00 - [1048]
 

This sums up it up perfectly...

Originally by: GavinCapacitor

Yes, that is correct. People are upset because of the high price of cosmetic crap. And because the CQ that they don't want to use in the first place is too limited.

Nothing to do with that purported internal memo, and the lack of response there in, that basically is a plan to milk everyone for everything they are worth and kill the game by introducing special aurum only super mods/weapons/ammo which CCP said would never happen. You lied. And Oh look, you didn't even MENTION it in this post 'addressing' things.

Die in a fire.

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
The KWFL Republic
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:37:00 - [1049]
 

Edited by: Copine Callmeknau on 24/06/2011 02:44:10
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Still reading. Didn't want the lack of my replies (some were actually kinda damn stupid) to make you think I'd left though.


protip: your next reply better freaking address the big yellow question.

We're also sick and tired of the glib responses, the *****footing around real issues, the convoluted PR-spin replies, and the attempts at humour in your replies. We are not amused.
We're ****ing ****ed, subs are on the line, so how about a little respect for the people that put food on your table.

Give us a yes/no answer on non-vanity MT, so I can know whether to cancel or not...

StevieTopSiders
M. PIRE
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:37:00 - [1050]
 

Also, publish the CSM minutes. Hire an intern (me?) to go through them, take out the sekretz, and then let us know what is going. These are taking far too long to get out to the public.


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