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BeforetheStorm90
Gallente
The Sagan Clan
Pax Romana Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:25:00 - [9781]
 

Too bad CCP didn't have the sense to act like adults. Its a shame, I thought CCP might have been a company with a future.

Yana Steel
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:26:00 - [9782]
 

Edited by: Yana Steel on 26/06/2011 07:26:17

*****CCP is like a blind man walking through a rabid monkey shyte fight at the moment*****




Its so hilarious how this is turning out.




Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:27:00 - [9783]
 

Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 26/06/2011 07:30:21
Originally by: Kraxalious
Originally by: Turkatron
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Pretty much dead on...


Turkatron? Is it your creation? Fantastic piece of communication!

edit:

Originally by: BeforetheStorm90
Too bad CCP didn't have the sense to act like adults. Its a shame, I thought CCP might have been a company with a future.


"Future" was their "communication" recently.
I didn't really get what the message was at the time, it seemed a bit "duh, just don't **** it up CCP".

With hind-sight it becomes apparent it was an attempt to pre-seed you and keep your mind subscribed.

Bureau Crat
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:30:00 - [9784]
 

CCP's business plan:
1: Lie to players.
2: Try to sneak gamebreaking feature past players.
3: Do not respond to Threadageddon by outraged players who caught wind of lies [See 1]
4: ???
5: Profit!!11!

Am I getting this right?

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:31:00 - [9785]
 

This may very well affect DUST and WoD Shocked

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:31:00 - [9786]
 

Originally by: Bureau Crat
CCP's business plan:
1: Lie to players.
2: Try to sneak gamebreaking feature past players.
3: Do not respond to Threadageddon by outraged players who caught wind of lies [See 1]
4: ???
5: Profit!!11!

Am I getting this right?


4. Wait till they leave.

SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:33:00 - [9787]
 

Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
This may very well affect DUST and WoD Shocked


I was just thinking about this...If this is how CCP treat its Flag ship customers, what are they going to be like when Dust 514 and WoD comes out?

Will they treat them with the disdane and out right arrogance?

CCFAIL
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:33:00 - [9788]
 

DUST is what eve soon will be if CCP doesn't react, because once all players quit, only DUST will remain of eve.

Hel Xaphod
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:35:00 - [9789]
 

Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
This may very well affect DUST and WoD Shocked


I was just thinking about this...If this is how CCP treat its Flag ship customers, what are they going to be like when Dust 514 and WoD comes out?

Will they treat them with the disdane and out right arrogance?


Flag ship? We are the cash cow farm...

Luckytania
Gallente
Bullets of Justice
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:35:00 - [9790]
 

Originally by: Sett Risalo
I wonder if the CQ vid screen will show a SCOPE Breaking News from Jita/Amarr/Rens/Dodixie riots?

<laughter>

Look! I was there! I'm on TV in my game!

--

I have to say "in my game" since I'm clearly not talking to anyone else with me in my CQ.

(A low blow that. It was known that there would be no character interactions in Incarna 1.0.)

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:35:00 - [9791]
 

Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
This may very well affect DUST and WoD Shocked


I was just thinking about this...If this is how CCP treat its Flag ship customers, what are they going to be like when Dust 514 and WoD comes out?

Will they treat them with the disdane and out right arrogance?


They'll be 12yos man, wtf does it matter how they treat em, they don't have a brain yet.

I have a guy **screaming** at me on DUST youtube about being a "3****ty owner"... I don't even play consoles.

Turkatron
United Mining And Distribution
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:36:00 - [9792]
 

Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Turkatron? Is it your creation? Fantastic piece of communication!


Indeed.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:36:00 - [9793]
 

Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
This may very well affect DUST and WoD Shocked


I was just thinking about this...If this is how CCP treat its Flag ship customers, what are they going to be like when Dust 514 and WoD comes out?

Will they treat them with the disdane and out right arrogance?

What customers?

You really think anyone with half a braincell will start playing a game of a company that has sunk its flagship with blatant customer mismanagement?

Gerth Dopple
Hole Spectors
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:36:00 - [9794]
 

Originally by: Bureau Crat
CCP's business plan:
1: Lie to players.
2: Try to sneak gamebreaking feature past players.
3: Do not respond to Threadageddon by outraged players who caught wind of lies [See 1]
4: ???
5: Profit!!11!

Am I getting this right?


Picked the wrong character to post with </failposting>

SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:37:00 - [9795]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
This may very well affect DUST and WoD Shocked


I was just thinking about this...If this is how CCP treat its Flag ship customers, what are they going to be like when Dust 514 and WoD comes out?

Will they treat them with the disdane and out right arrogance?

What customers?

You really think anyone with half a braincell will start playing a game of a company that has sunk its flagship with blatant customer mismanagement?



OMG sry lol don't linch me please Im on your side lol

Harpalyce Dynameos
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:38:00 - [9796]
 

Originally by: CCP Pann
Edited by: CCP Pann on 24/06/2011 00:50:29
Like I said, I won’t be able to answer all of your questions tonight, but I promise we’ll start getting some info out tomorrow. As I see it, the chief complaint is regarding the high cost of goods in the Noble Market. Second, many people are unhappy about the Captain’s Quarters. Third, there are some performance issues with Incarna.



You mean this?

Originally by: CCP Zulu

We‘ll continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog.



Then giving us... exactly what you said you wouldn't do anymore? I have yet to see anything other than Zulu's snob dev blog as a response to the fans and then utter silence, like the norm...

Ahernar
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:38:00 - [9797]
 

1 .I like walking in station . Probably becouse i just upgraded .
2 I hate AUR with passion . Awfull ideea CCP , I think like with the subprime crisis your risk management team made a mistake . You are going to lose revenue .A Plex for a shirt , Monocle for 75$ , don't you KNOW that your majority of players are poor in game and you must make your game atractive for people to get subbed and stay subbed .
3 Greed is bad . People hate greedy people

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:38:00 - [9798]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar

You really think anyone with half a braincell will start playing a game of a company that has sunk its flagship with blatant customer mismanagement?


*cough* *cough* 12yos

I tell ya CCP has this all worked out. We just got here too soon and ruined their party.

Demure Guise
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:39:00 - [9799]
 

Edited by: Demure Guise on 26/06/2011 07:40:47
Hey, €€P!

ARE YOU GOING TO SELL NON_VANITY ITEMS VIA MT?

[ ] YES [ ] NO

Would you like the question made any simpler? One simple answer will solve all the fury, one way or another.

Vastek Non
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:39:00 - [9800]
 

Originally by: Vapidity
I don't think there is enough that CCP can say via lemmings or anyone else for that matter.
This game has been rocked with way too many scandals.
CCP getting caught lying all the time...

Who wants to do any kind of business with someone or some entity that has no integrity?
CCP is going to have to make some very drastic change here and peel back the curtain.

Oh, and that idiot you guys hired that was a venture capitalist that helped spawn the banking crisis?
You might want to get rid of him, too.



I think that 'Idiot' has a 35%? share of the company. He hired them Sad

scum always floats to the top.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:42:00 - [9801]
 

Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: Abrazzar

You really think anyone with half a braincell will start playing a game of a company that has sunk its flagship with blatant customer mismanagement?


*cough* *cough* 12yos

I tell ya CCP has this all worked out. We just got here too soon and ruined their party.

12 year olds are good for 6 months tops until something new comes out to jump on.

And the WoD fans are some of the most stuck up and spoiled people I have ever encountered. They won't touch anything with a taint that CCP has now.

Algernon Chundleford
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:42:00 - [9802]
 

Edited by: Algernon Chundleford on 26/06/2011 07:44:44
I felt oddly compelled to be a drop in the bucket here. A lot of online games have a fairly docile playerbase, by which I mean the playerbase consists of sheep. It's always been my opinion that EVE Online stands out a bit, in that respect. Possibly owing to the fact that the gameplay is less engaging, it's like some sort of thinking-person's MMO.

A lot of games are beginning to see play to win as a very viable way to do business; because as it turns out most people are fine with it, and there are a chunk of players who will pay top dollar to gain an advantage. Of course, it rubs the passionate few (like you chaps here on the forums that I never post on) the wrong way. What I don't see articulated enough is the reason that it rubs us the wrong way, it's inequality.

On a very basic level, paying to win is unsporting, everyone knows that. It's especially grating that people will pay to win in an environment governed by unique rules that is supposed to be free of outside influences. And of course I can go completely nuts and mention that we as gamers like our internet spaceships because here there are no haves and have nots, here we are all equal, and this is our utopia. But that would be crazy.

On the subject of vanity items, I don't really see the point. I pay CCP roughly $15 per month per account (the math of which I desperately try to avoid doing). Remind me again why I can't make full use of their character customization?

Micro transactions?! In MY eve?!

/unsubscribe

SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:44:00 - [9803]
 

Yeah why did CCP hire a Banker that helped cause the fall of world Banking? how the **** does any banker get a job after all that...Its like all the CEO's that bust companies, they always seem to get another job straight away, if u screwed up in ya job and caused the company to go under you'd never get another job in that postion again, wouldn't u???


The Pteradactyl
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:45:00 - [9804]
 

Edited by: The Pteradactyl on 26/06/2011 07:45:44
These are growing pains. The game will shed some dead skin (o/ bittervets) and emerge stronger and better.

If you don't like it, you should go with them. Please don't burn it down on your way out.

Edit: Can I have your stuff?

NoYen
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:46:00 - [9805]
 

If you're warring be sure to dock up on Friday; you don't want to get payday hot dropped.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:46:00 - [9806]
 

Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 26/06/2011 07:47:36
Originally by: Abrazzar

12 year olds are good for 6 months tops until something new comes out to jump on.



Exactly.

Remember how CCP foundout their retention was 7 months and they weren't sure what to do about it?
Then they spent a lot of time on NPE?

They only want 7-9 months. They know the game is **** after that.
Also as others have explained you can't compete with CCP so eventually you hit a brick wall and realise the game is a deadend.

They don't want old burdonsome players who demand stuff.

edit: 12 yos aren't 12 yos forever but more just keep coming and they have a pester power shortcut into the parents wallet.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:46:00 - [9807]
 

Originally by: Kraxalious
Originally by: Turkatron
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Pretty much dead on...


To be fair there is a section about why MT for non-vanity items are bad. people need to put up both sides.


Only issue is the person saying yes in charge, the person saying no has barley any power or say on anything.

Incendia Everto
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:46:00 - [9808]
 

Originally by: Demure Guise
Edited by: Demure Guise on 26/06/2011 07:40:47
Hey, €€P!

ARE YOU GOING TO SELL NON_VANITY ITEMS VIA MT?

[ ] YES [ ] NO

Would you like the question made any simpler? One simple answer will solve all the fury, one way or another.


kestrael nanahara
Caldari
Wrecking Shots
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:48:00 - [9809]
 

Originally by: The Pteradactyl
Edited by: The Pteradactyl on 26/06/2011 07:45:44
These are growing pains. The game will shed some dead skin (o/ bittervets) and emerge stronger and better.

If you don't like it, you should go with them. Please don't burn it down on your way out.

Edit: Can I have your stuff?


Well from what we can tell CCP is having money problems developing three games and in 40 hours it looks like about 1% of the player base is leaving so we will see how that turns out.

Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:48:00 - [9810]
 

Well done CCP. Well done. ugh


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