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ElCholo
Minmatar
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:42:00 - [7051]
 

Four accounts, all with 2 months of GTC left. After that, it's on to World of Tanks. You pay for stuff there, too. However, it's free to play...

Conan 0brien
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:42:00 - [7052]
 

FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN


— Email Starts—-

Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:16:54 -0400
To: [email protected]
Subject: ccp ceo global msg sent today
From: [email protected]
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”UTF-8″
Message-Id: <[email protected]>

sent by hilmar to ccp global list-

(strt)

We live in interesting times; in fact CCP is the kind of company that if things get repetitive we instinctively crank it up a notch. That, we certainly have done this week. First of we have Incarna, an amazing technological and artistic achievement. A vision from years ago realized to a point that no one could have imaged but a few months ago. It rolls out without a hitch, is in some cases faster than what we had before, this is the pinnacle of professional achievement. For all the noise in the channel we should all stand proud, years from now this is what people will remember.

But we have done more, not only have we redefined the production quality one can apply to virtual worlds with the beautiful Incarna but we have also defined what it really means to make virtual reality more meaningful than real life when it comes to launching our new virtual goods currency, Aurum.

Naturally, we have caught the attention of the world. Only a few weeks ago we revealed more information about DUST 514 and now we have done it again by committing to our core purpose as a company by redefining assumptions. After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.

This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.

Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.

We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable. That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected.

All that said, I couldn’t be prouder of what we have accomplished as a company, changing the world is hard and we are doing it as so many times before! Stay the course, we have done this many times before.

(end)

Zachary Dellinger
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:42:00 - [7053]
 

Originally by: Alexis Sachs
Originally by: Zachary Dellinger
Join one of the empire chatrooms. -nods-


Will do once this thing gets done... I feel like it's '95 and I'm rocking my 56k modem!


Feel free to PM me in game if you need any assistance learning the interface. o7

Kerppe Krulli
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:43:00 - [7054]
 

Originally by: Shandir
For everyone who can't 'unsub' exactly because they're paid up for a long time - submit a petition requesting a refund - they probably won't listen, but it would be deserved.


If you paid by credit card just charge it back. That will get CCP's attention and cost them $20 in chargeback fee, you can do it up to 3 times if they keep resubmitting. Hit them where CCP only cares.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:44:00 - [7055]
 

Originally by: Zachary Dellinger
Originally by: Alexis Sachs
Originally by: Zachary Dellinger
Join one of the empire chatrooms. -nods-


Will do once this thing gets done... I feel like it's '95 and I'm rocking my 56k modem!


Feel free to PM me in game if you need any assistance learning the interface. o7


Can we store more than 50 fittings on it?

Manos Heimenbarger
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:44:00 - [7056]
 

Edited by: Manos Heimenbarger on 25/06/2011 04:44:17
I must check out this "Perpetuum" too...

Edit: How awesome would it be if at least 1000 players were to migrate from here to there?

Tea Ester Elliot
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:44:00 - [7057]
 

Perpet didnt look all that spiffy to me, i'm thinking no more mmo's for a while. Let the industry gets this pay to win **** out of it's system.

Tarinara
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:44:00 - [7058]
 

Quote:
We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable. That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected.

You have cancelled ( BTW - Firefox spell checker says only 1 'l' CCP... ) your EVE Online subscription.

Your account will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on 17 August 2011.

Your characters will be stored safely and be ready for you to enjoy again should you decide to return.

Enjoy your adapting CCP... *Thumbs Up*

Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:45:00 - [7059]
 

Originally by: Miilla



So, I guess all this now means I don't get to have my personal statue outside Rens top station?




They'll sell you that for 100 AUR. It's nothing like owning your own monocle.


Tatiana Valenko
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:45:00 - [7060]
 

Originally by: Alexis Sachs
Originally by: Oregin
I bet the guy who manages the www.perpetuum-online.com server is currently having a heart attack.


Yep. This downloader thing crashed on me once already. And juuuuuuuuuusssssttt a tick on the slow side.


We should make a thread on their forum (if they have one) that says

"Sign in here if you came from EVE Online"

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:46:00 - [7061]
 



Step 1) Find new MMO without Microtransactions
Step 2) Sign up
Step 3) Start petitioning for custom paint jobs
Step 4) Moan about lag
Step 5) Moan about autodownloader being crap and crap patches
Step 6) Suggest you would pay for a custom stuff
Step 7) Trollololll


Jaroslav Unwanted
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:46:00 - [7062]
 

EVERYBODY COOL THE **** OFF.

Please think. Read how this whole hype began. Then go through it slowly and carefully. And you see the rage which is venting there is indeed based on "wide theories" you created.

Thats ladies and gentlemen is called brainstorming without borders. You done it.

If you think that after this they gonna do exactly the thing you predicted and raged over, than i am sorry you cannot be helped.

If you think that was kind of productive, and will await positive outcome you are welcome.

Now apologize where its due. And CCP free those you banned over this. Thank you in advance.

I may be naive. But Hope is just imaginary. So its up to you.

Seriously this getting to far. Stay cool for an moment.

Alexis Sachs
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:46:00 - [7063]
 

Originally by: Zachary Dellinger
Originally by: Alexis Sachs
Originally by: Zachary Dellinger
Join one of the empire chatrooms. -nods-


Will do once this thing gets done... I feel like it's '95 and I'm rocking my 56k modem!


Feel free to PM me in game if you need any assistance learning the interface. o7


Same name?

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:46:00 - [7064]
 

Originally by: Moraguth
I doubt anyone is reading anymore... but here's something I put together in game chat and I'd like your input on it.

Moraguth > let me get this timeline straight: internal newsletter debating pro/con of MT. Dev blog saying no MT for non-vanity items. Incarna - high monacle prices. hilmar Email predicting complaints/stay the course. zulu devblog doesn't answer questions. rioting.


It's a pretty fair assessment. Some folks are having issue not being able to dictate how CCP runs their company, and thinks that taking the appropriate step (when not satisfied) of leaving is somehow important or noteworthy.

Business as usual, just a higher entertainment value than normal.

Calden De'Altos
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:47:00 - [7065]
 

Edited by: Calden De''Altos on 25/06/2011 04:47:53
If this has been mentioned before, then i apologize for the double post...

So, in the new thread detailing the "email" from Hilmar, CCP would not take the time to confirm or deny it, but, they do take the time to state rule nine of the forums:

"Guys and girls,

The forum rules are quite explicit and our job, on the Community team, is to enforce those rules. Rule number nine states:

'Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue. You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned.'

The rules are clear, posting any private communication from any member of CCP is not permitted on ths forums."

So, in a way, CCP Navigator (who said the above quote) confirmed this is, infact, an in-house corispondence. It is sad that we can not get anyone to tell us the truth.

Oregin
Red Sky Morning
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:47:00 - [7066]
 

If I were the Perpetuum makers I'd right now be offering free game time or free in game currency to EVE converts...

Then, because I imagine they care about their players, I'd give everyone else the same.

Cyber Duck
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:47:00 - [7067]
 

Linkage

Something Quoted at the end of the eve radio podcast by mittani...

Upper management in ccp are OUT OF TOUCH

Haunting Widow
SKEET ELITE
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:47:00 - [7068]
 

Originally by: Moraguth
I doubt anyone is reading anymore... but here's something I put together in game chat and I'd like your input on it.

Moraguth > let me get this timeline straight: internal newsletter debating pro/con of MT. Dev blog saying no MT for non-vanity items. Incarna - high monacle prices. hilmar Email predicting complaints/stay the course. zulu devblog doesn't answer questions. rioting.


I enjoyed the rioting.. And the laser show is working, I had a conversation with a nice guy undocking who was asking what was going on and informed him. He was in full support of what we were doing, I had to open a new convo with him on another character though as the one I was on originally got gagged by.. you guessed it, our favorite GM Horse.

Anyways, people are noticing, keep it up. I'll be back at it tomorrow I'm sure.

Orrr.. I'll be banned, and won't give a damn.

Get a brain CCP, aren't you already in financial trouble?? Won't losing our subscriptions hurt? Btw, we're big boys and girls.. we could handle it if all the mining bots were banned, we're the eve community, we're strong, stronger than you btw. Something for you to think about.

Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:48:00 - [7069]
 

2 acc down.

final one is waiting Monday or whenever ccp grow some balls to answer few simple questions and i encourage people to do the same.

Mina.

Jin Endashi
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:49:00 - [7070]
 

Originally by: Allyria Kylari
Originally by: Manos Heimenbarger
Edited by: Manos Heimenbarger on 25/06/2011 00:04:52
GM in Jita chat still doesn't get its a bad idea to disrespect your customers.

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Apparently their customers are just random guys on the internet?


CCP has fallen to an insulting level of unprofessionalism.




QFT

Neo160
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:49:00 - [7071]
 

the inherent RAGE and pitch forks you are experiencing are not from Captains Quatrers (i think its a good start).

its not from performance issues either, in-fact, I think its safe to say that even the majority of enraged players like myself are only half enraged with the NeX prices, as that was only the begining.


our "Anger" comes from the fact we're seeing very disturbing signs that Eve is going down the path of Micro-Transactions at all, as we are already fully paying for the game, and that CCP may expand Micro-Transactions beyond the Nex store.

CCP must realize that

1. we are already paying for the game, and Micro-Transactions are designed to support Free to Play games.

2. a virtual good cannot realistically cost more than the real thing, the logic here simply enrages the community, including myself, in fact its practically INSULTING to such a loyal playerbase.

Wakeland
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:50:00 - [7072]
 

After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.

After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.

After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.

After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.

Literally nothing else needs to be said. We are wallets to CCP.

Futar Csav0
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:50:00 - [7073]
 


Rhodin Lazarith
EXTERMINATUS.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:50:00 - [7074]
 

CCP's public image is failcascading harder than Atlas Alliance did in 2010 Rolling Eyes

mydogissick
Caldari
Axis Labs
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:50:00 - [7075]
 

No parley.
No stopping.
No rest.
Just answer the issue at hand and end this one way or the other.

Jacob Kelbrand
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:51:00 - [7076]
 

I hope someone leaks Hilmar's next email too...

Moraguth
Amarr
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:51:00 - [7077]
 

Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Moraguth
I doubt anyone is reading anymore... but here's something I put together in game chat and I'd like your input on it.

Moraguth > let me get this timeline straight: internal newsletter debating pro/con of MT. Dev blog saying no MT for non-vanity items. Incarna - high monacle prices. hilmar Email predicting complaints/stay the course. zulu devblog doesn't answer questions. rioting.


It's a pretty fair assessment. Some folks are having issue not being able to dictate how CCP runs their company, and thinks that taking the appropriate step (when not satisfied) of leaving is somehow important or noteworthy.

Business as usual, just a higher entertainment value than normal.


heh, thanks dad. I thought you left for World of Tanks months ago.
So basically, the way I see it is that people are really ****ed off because they're looking at all the information as it was released in the last couple days as opposed to the last few months like it actually happened. Silly kids with their pitchforks. I hope everyone who is saying they've cancelled their subscriptions actually has. We'll have alot less crybabies around.

Zachary Dellinger
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:51:00 - [7078]
 

Edited by: Zachary Dellinger on 25/06/2011 04:57:26
Originally by: Alexis Sachs
Originally by: Zachary Dellinger
Originally by: Alexis Sachs
Originally by: Zachary Dellinger
Join one of the empire chatrooms. -nods-


Will do once this thing gets done... I feel like it's '95 and I'm rocking my 56k modem!


Feel free to PM me in game if you need any assistance learning the interface. o7


Same name?


At the risk of getting trolled, yep.... Unless I missed something and you weren't referring to EVE itself. I'm kind of tired.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:51:00 - [7079]
 

I will just leave this factoid here... For all those still asking questions about VANITY ITEMS AND Mictotransactions... HINT: we passed that stage ages ago




The reason why CCP are not ANSWERING your questions now, and responded the way they did, by ignoring the issue is...

THEY ARE STILL EXECUTING ON THEIR TIME TABLE... their time table does not have disclosure on these issues at this time.

That is how CLOSED CCP management is, they do it their way, nothing interrupts their schedule, that was committed to.

THE MT EXECUTION TIMETABLE IS STILL IN EFFECT.



Tatiana Nixx
Posted - 2011.06.25 04:51:00 - [7080]
 

Edited by: Tatiana Nixx on 25/06/2011 04:52:31
Post self deleted. MAY have missed the sarcasm in a post... at least will give the benefit of the doubt.


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