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Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:20:00 - [6271]

Am I the only one here sitting staring at the ship CQ dock with an awesome ship and thinking... It's over?

*takes some snaps of the awesome ship view*

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:21:00 - [6272]

Originally by: Velcet NiteDragon
Originally by: SenshiMaru
When you choose not to utilize CQ and MT, CCP quite literally shows you the

I thought they made me stand in the 'Naughty Corner' ;)

More like bend you over the naughty barrel Razz

Missionary Monkey
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:21:00 - [6273]

I've played EVE in beta. What does CCP now .... Money? I hate this game

Posted - 2011.06.24 23:21:00 - [6274]

210 pages later, time to go get some sleep. Let's see what tomorrow has in store for us (even though a different outcome than ****ty devbolgs is unlikely.

Jaen D'arc
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:22:00 - [6275]

Originally by: bw8
i haven't read the past 200-ish pages of stuff tl;dr


MAKE CQ OPTIONAL (such as an *****option***** to access once docked)

it would resolve the issues of

1) people not having hardware up to par
2) many people don't want CQ

CCP you should really ask urself - who besides us @CCP wants CQ's ?

Ilah Gruhbarn
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:22:00 - [6276]

ok duds that most likely would sell their own asses for 5 buks on some street corner are the one that have say in where is EVE going.!?

erm is anyone else worried? Rolling Eyes

OH and EpiC FAIL.

Posted - 2011.06.24 23:22:00 - [6277]

keeping this short and simple

micro transactions = no good

the MTs raise the price of plex, in return the best ships etc in the game become available for pennies to ppl who dont work for them
right now with the prices theres some what of a balance with isk/irl money, no more MTs!

James Razor
Fallen Angel's
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:23:00 - [6278]

Well, i am at the point where i need to decide if i should laugh about the stupidity shown here by CCP or simply start crying.

Please, do me a favour, eat a fly. Than you will have at least some brain in your stomach @ CCP.

Ignoring your playerbase and thinking of us as cows that u can milk of their hard earned money is an insult of unseen magnitude. Honestly, i dont think that Eve will die because of this. There are always people that will play and even buy stuff that is absurdly expensive. But i think CCP just lost a big part of their old playerbase. Not only with Incarna, also with that **** about licenses.

I mean, these people make free apps that help u keep and attract player for free and you charge them now for it?? I dont know who came up with this, but please let someone check your state of mind. Otherwise u mind end up thinking bungee jumping without rope might be a good idea.

Fix Lag
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:23:00 - [6279]

Dev blog? More like "Deaf Blog."

Lynn Deniera
The Foreign Legion
The Remnant Legion
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:23:00 - [6280]

Oh hey a thread. I'm going to post in this.

And to answer your question, no I'm not mad, but those were some silly mistakes to mark Incarna as the new low point of expansions.

Marcus Vorenius
Task Force 42
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:24:00 - [6281]

TheMittani wrote something about Icelandic people some where - anyone have a linky?

Posted - 2011.06.24 23:25:00 - [6282]

im wondering how well that playstation only shooter dust 514 is going to sell after all this is said and done. Would be bad if CCP had all those chickens in one basket. -2 subs

Hathor Snotra
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:25:00 - [6283]

As i believe has been said several times, the issue is not the price of the useless monacle, it is the suggestion of sale of useful things such as SP or standings, please consider editing your post CCP Pann, as that is a large error.

Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:25:00 - [6284]

Edited by: Miilla on 24/06/2011 23:26:06

Am I the only one thinking that, if Eve goes, CCP goes too, CCP doesn't deserve to succeed after this.

The main reason being, CCP's absolute disregard and arrogance.

4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:25:00 - [6285]

Originally by: Miilla
CCP's vision of the sandbox -> Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Customers view of CCP management -> Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

this had me laughing and yes spot on :-)

Perdu Opus
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:25:00 - [6286]

Just read the Dev Blog... Seriously, they still think its the prices in the shop we are angry about? lololololol. This is so stupid. Its the shop itself, get rid of Aurum. Is it that hard to see? Hurts to have my game ruined. **** you ccp and **** EVE Online.

Posted - 2011.06.24 23:26:00 - [6287]

Edited by: Goodluvins on 24/06/2011 23:26:49
**** MT and **** CCP for the leaked memo. It isnt the god damned price you ****ing r-tards, its the non-vanity MT. Herp.

Posted - 2011.06.24 23:26:00 - [6288]

Originally by: HydroVolcano

Actually, they think you are pathetic. If you need to have $1000 jeans to gain attention, you're doing it wrong.

It does not only point how CCP is ******ed it also shows how most of the world is misguided.

Tea Ester Elliot
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:26:00 - [6289]


We get any more feedback yet?

Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:26:00 - [6290]

Over 9000 posts in a thread about how P ****d us doesnt seem far anymore :)

Garreth Vlox
Obsidian Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:26:00 - [6291]

Originally by: xBreetaix
im wondering how well that playstation only shooter dust 514 is going to sell after all this is said and done. Would be bad if CCP had all those chickens in one basket. -2 subs

for dust to work at all eve must be functioning, good luck getting the FPS crowd to trust you again if you kill eve and dust before it even gets off the ground,


if you do manage that you will at least be able to sit back and be proud that you are officially the laughing stock of the gaming world ugh

Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:27:00 - [6292]

look at this nerdvention. what are you angry nerds even angry about?? stupid monocles that no one is forcing you to buy? QQ more nublets

Posted - 2011.06.24 23:27:00 - [6293]

Nano J
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:28:00 - [6294]

My two cents:
resubbed my main after a month's break. CQ is useless and clumsy. WiS may end up being fun, but until it's ready (and useful) keep it out of game. noble exchange is a joke.

probably won't resub my alt account, especially if non-vanity MT's are implemented. I haven't ground out missions/isk/skills over the last 3-4 years so someone can come in with $300 and outskill me in a month. part of the fun of eve is waiting for new abilities. knowing i can buy plexes for standings or skills won't make me buy plexes, it will make me feel like an idiot for grinding. if i don't grind, i can't play. if i can't play, i won't even pay the sub. it is a bribe to CCP to allow people to cheat a system that has been in place since everyone here started playing. that's why so many people are angry.

if game-changing MT's are implemented i will permanently unsub.

the customer is always right. CCP isn't listening to its customers. allowing players to look better with RL influence is one thing. allowing players to BE better is another. if one country gives more money to the world cup organizers, should they be allowed to have more players on the field? it's an unfair advantage.

Onnen Mentar
Murientor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:28:00 - [6295]

Edited by: Onnen Mentar on 25/06/2011 01:27:37
A sad day for CCP. I thought you were a company with a difference. That is why I started to play and that's also a big part of why I stayed. Years of promises already had me doubting whether you really were the same trustworthy company with a difference still, but team BFF gave me hope (also props to the devs who actually care about EVE in more ways than how it can make their wallets fat).

CCP is (was?) doing well, but because of the cashflow we provide you with, you assume you have godlike power and can dictate how you can get more and more while ignoring what the customer wants.

Newsflash: the customer gives and the customer takes.

Fail to take into account your players concerns and you're in for a shock. Just read up on some (modern) marketing theories/studies and find out how for instance word of mouth publicity affects sales.

Doing business in the post mass-production consumer society really is no rocket science. It's mostly about trust between two parties who invest time and effort together to create value. In simple terms: it's about making friends and helping eachother out. Grasp that, and there's hope.

Micro transactions smell of an antique mass-market transactions based marketing strategy. Yes, you read that right, micro-transactions is not a new way to make money, it's an old way that arrived with the industrial revolution. It works well for certain products (nails for instance), but doesn't work too well for products where both seller and buyer need to interact to create value.

So is EVE really the place for micro-transactions? Your customers create a huge part of your value for you and are in it for the long run. I've been playing EVE for over 6 years regularly. It's been a fun part of my life and I would want to keep it that way. But if I cannot trust CCP as a company, I do not see why I should invest time still. What a waste it would be :/

You are now facing your biggest crisis/opportunity yet. You have a chance to redeem yourself, fail to do so and you'll lose your steady playerbase over time.

(P.S. that excuse of a reply devblog is a slap in our face, you need to do a whole lot better than that.)

Edit: decided to edit CCP Soundwave out of the post, I still assume his "yes" to microtransactions was simply to argue the point, but I truly hope he understands this is not the way forward for EVE.

Fermi Tesla
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:29:00 - [6296]

The price of vanity items is not the main issue; it is the chance of sale of SP or standings...

Interrobang Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:29:00 - [6297]

This whole situation has made me realize how long I've been disappointed with CCP. I realize now, that before I was willing to put up with their constant bull**** because EVE was such a unique and great game. This is the last of it though, good bye and good riddance.

Thutmose I
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:29:00 - [6298]

Edited by: Thutmose I on 24/06/2011 23:35:48
please try to understand the main complaints of the public, we don't want the game to be broken by the allowance of sale of skillpoints.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:29:00 - [6299]

Players - 'Not only is your expansion ****e, but it's overheating our computers!'

CCP - Buy better computers!

Players - 'When we fight in fleets or protest in Jita, your server is laggy as ****!'

CCP - Dat's the best we can do while we work on vampire barbies.

Players - Buy better computers!

Ded Moroz
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:30:00 - [6300]

Reactivated the game a couple of weeks ago after 4 year absence because I have some extra time for gaming. And now I come back and see this disaster unfold. This is just disgusting.

Very quickly my renewed excitement about EVE is turning very sour. Real life $$ transactions for items of power??? dev blogs about $1000 jeans??? what the hell did i come back to? I just cancelled my subscription.

I think i will go and reactive and play my WoW account instead. At least they only charge RL $$ for silly stuff like sex changes.

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