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Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:26:00 - [6121]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 24/06/2011 22:28:50




I think this link is a useful read

http://blogs.forbes.com/jeffbercovici/2011/06/14/why-some-psychopaths-make-great-ceos/


But seriously ; i think they need some professional help to get back to reality.

Real life prices for virtual items? 1000 bucks virtual jeans?

Wise the hell up.




diaufop
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:26:00 - [6122]
 

Originally by: Miilla
CCP's vision of the sandbox -> Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Customers view of CCP management -> Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.





Pretty much sums it up, although could do with a Pony for fallout.

Golheim
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:27:00 - [6123]
 

Here as a vote of support for the many articulate rages in this thread calling out CCP. CCP Zulu's response was condescending.

Bilboz
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:28:00 - [6124]
 

This is my 3rd? or 4th post to the eve forums i do not troll or flame these boards out of habit.Its this simple given ccp's lack of action over botting and RTM it seems to me they are going to throw in the towel as other mmo's have and just try to cash in instead of fixing issues.IT is this simple of CCP starts selling high end ships or other I WIN items for null sec we ( myself and my wife) will close our accounts. So if that lands us in the rage cage with all the other trolls so be it. EVE as been all about the journey or build to fight and win a place in nullsec. If CCP sells I WIN items there is no reason to log on. This all reminds me of the Joke about Warcrab holding your hand the whole way and giving you a cookie at lvl80. Eve was the game that would slap you and steal your cookie.IF this comes to pass CCP better learn how to bake cookies...your new fan base is going to expect them.Evil or Very Mad

Alexis Sachs
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:29:00 - [6125]
 

Originally by: leth ghost
http://treborofthecsm.blogspot.com/2011/06/black-friday.html

so they ignored any input on the dev blog and still posted there own bull****


Just saw that and read the post. Very disappointing. This signals to me that in fact our concerns are not something they care about, CCP is moving forward on this reckless path. If my comments make me a bitter vet in that I'm not happy the game I've played for nearly 4 years is becoming something completely foreign to me, then so be it. I don't think EVE is the game I fell in love with anymore.

Kueijin Legion
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:29:00 - [6126]
 

Date Of Birth 2006.12.29 15:16:00

Been here since then. Never unsubbed.

Until now.

Go **** Yourselves CCP, just Go **** Yourselves.

Osk74
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:29:00 - [6127]
 

Originally by: SuperSpy00bob
Originally by: Iurnan Mileghere
Edited by: Iurnan Mileghere on 24/06/2011 00:39:31
The chief complaint is micro transactions. Prices are one thing, but you must address the leaked newsletter and the direction on MTs that affect game progression, such as faction eta digs, ammunition, and ships.

If you cannot address those issues, please communicate to your team that someone at CCP hf who *can* needs to do so.


A thousand times this. I have been with eve since the beta, and this change in attitude has me quite depressed. If your goal really is similar to what has been shown in that PDF, You. Are. Going. To. Lose. Lots. Of. Subscribers.



04 here but this.

Debrue
Gallente
Sacred Templars
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:30:00 - [6128]
 

CCP, looks like it's time to get back to the drawing board. End the thought of having MT in the game. Fix the graphics overload caused by your marginal upgrade that few care about. Get back to making upgrades that enhance player enjoyment, good market opportunities, upgraded ships and fittings. Listen to your customer base. Before I rage threat to cancel my accounts, I'll play the wait and see game. Admit failure and move on.

DangerosoDavo
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:30:00 - [6129]
 

I want to see stats, Total Subscriptions Two Weeks Ago, Total Subscriptions in 2 days...

Cunane Jeran
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 - [6130]
 

The Dev blog is a good explaination but you need to do more

Assurances that this game will never be Pay to Win wouldn't go amiss. Contractual Assurances.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 - [6131]
 



I call a vote of "NO CONFIDENCE".


Siiee
Recycled Heroes
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 - [6132]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: SkwisgaarSkwigelf
NO buying standings
NO buying sec
NO buying remaps
NO buying skills
NO buying ships/modules/ammo
NO buying SP

NO NO NO

Their failure for a clear no can only be interpreted as a yes.


That was apparent within minutes of this breaking out, forget their reply.

If there was a well established policy that the PR team was aware of and could point to to placate the masses they would have.

if they need the higher ups to prepare a statement it means the decision that's been made is not one that we're going to like

Zulu's blog only proves that officially.

Hailey Sunweaver
Minmatar
Murientor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 - [6133]
 

I think this needs to be addressed by Hilmar that responce was very disappointing. Crying or Very sad

Cylide Askald
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 - [6134]
 

You needed a whole day for THIS blog? lulz

Smagd
Encina Technologies
Namtz' aar K'in
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 - [6135]
 

Originally by: DangerosoDavo
I want to see stats, Total Subscriptions Two Weeks Ago, Total Subscriptions in 2 days...


Thing is, you'll have to factor in pending cancellations and you can't factor in folks who won't prolong their PLEX in 28 days.

buck herrick
101st Space Marine Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 - [6136]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.

Points:

*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.

*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.

The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.

*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.

My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.




~i have no issue with mittens for once. whilst i find him a obnoxious, condescending **** most days, i recognise that this is the role he has chosen for his in-game persona (i apologise if it is indeed your true character and i have misrepresented you).

aside from my personal feelings, he is csm, and it is his team that should be bat-phoning, emailing or basically knocking down the door fo ccp on our behalf - if ccp is not workign with the csm on any decisions of this magnitude, then they are, once again, negligent of their comitment to the eve playerbase.

seleen has been fantastic in his vociferous visibility on these forums, i would hope and pray that ~OUR csm is indeed pulling together as a cohesive unit to voice major concerns to the as shats at CCP who have once again taken an ill-advised path on the rocky road to mayhem.

trust is the issue, blatant lies, mistruths, misdirection and a complete lack of understanding. if i hear one more word from CCP about prices of shi tty monacles that no one (other than them) really cares about, i will unsub my final account too.

thank you mittens and the csm - i hope you can make more progress than the masses seem able to - before it is truely too late.

~yours, ex. lisa herrick

Tea Ester Elliot
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 - [6137]
 

Originally by: Debrue
CCP, looks like it's time to get back to the drawing board. End the thought of having MT in the game. Fix the graphics overload caused by your marginal upgrade that few care about. Get back to making upgrades that enhance player enjoyment, good market opportunities, upgraded ships and fittings. Listen to your customer base. Before I rage threat to cancel my accounts, I'll play the wait and see game. Admit failure and move on.


Enjoy funding more AURUM developments with your subscription. In a few months you will probably be rewarded with the opportunity to buy ships/ammo with yours.

Garreth Vlox
Minmatar
Obsidian Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 - [6138]
 

all quotes are from this : http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=author&p=CCP%20Zulu

" I added on the role of content director for EVE late summer 2008 which I have performed since."

so basically this whole fiasco is kinda your fault? cool.

P.S.

"Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are." ccp zulu.

according to google translate the above quote is this, "we didn't want your money anyway"

Natalia Kovac
Minmatar
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 - [6139]
 

Self destructing all my useless promo ships on the memorial in Jita :DDD

Velcet NiteDragon
Minmatar
Hayes Interplanetary
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 - [6140]
 

Sorry I just hear the buzzing of flies when CCP reps speak, it must be the wholesome smell of horse ***t surrounding them.

Don't really care about the MT stuff, do care about the lies, broken promises and ***t-stain expansion.. Gimme back my fricken spinny ship you ass-hats.

Adrie Atticus
Mining and Industrial Services
The Irukandji
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 - [6141]
 

Originally by: Miilla


I call a vote of "NO CONFIDENCE".




Sorry, you don't own enough stocks.

navalny
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 - [6142]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: SkwisgaarSkwigelf
NO buying standings
NO buying sec
NO buying remaps
NO buying skills
NO buying ships/modules/ammo
NO buying SP

NO NO NO

Their failure for a clear no can only be interpreted as a yes.


please No

leth ghost
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 - [6143]
 

Originally by: Alexis Sachs
Originally by: leth ghost
http://treborofthecsm.blogspot.com/2011/06/black-friday.html

so they ignored any input on the dev blog and still posted there own bull****


Just saw that and read the post. Very disappointing. This signals to me that in fact our concerns are not something they care about, CCP is moving forward on this reckless path. If my comments make me a bitter vet in that I'm not happy the game I've played for nearly 4 years is becoming something completely foreign to me, then so be it. I don't think EVE is the game I fell in love with anymore.


yup why have csm if you are going to completely ignore them, well they just completely ignore evry one at the moment. They are in denial, think they are correct

Arcaneidas
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:33:00 - [6144]
 

Edited by: Arcaneidas on 24/06/2011 22:46:12




Since CCP can do things and then not justify their actions, I'm going to follow that great model. After all imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :)Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.



Amoes Sten
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:33:00 - [6145]
 

Ugh. Im sorry CCP threw you under the bus Pann.

Jefferson H Clay
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:33:00 - [6146]
 

Edited by: Jefferson H Clay on 24/06/2011 22:34:28
Well that's Vaneshi due to expire. So much for the SnowCrash empire I guess *shrug*

It's been fun folks, I've shot at and been shot at a lot of people. Never did manage to get that Archon either :(

I'm going to miss this game.

No. You can't have it.

And Jeff's a nub, you really want some T1 autocannons? lulz.

For CCP, who are hard of counting. That's -2 subscribers.

Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:33:00 - [6147]
 

The short version of the dev blog....
I removed all the spin and useless words to make it easier for everyone to understand the real message.


Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.








Not too ironically my response to the blog is the same....

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:33:00 - [6148]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 24/06/2011 22:35:12
Originally by: Adrie Atticus
Originally by: Miilla


I call a vote of "NO CONFIDENCE".




Sorry, you don't own enough stocks.




Employee's can band together, and stock holders can raise questions at the annual meeting. Even by proxy.

They're gona have to do something once layoffs start happening IF people abandon the sinking ship.


I just cannot take management seriously anymore. I think they are loonatics to even think we want to pay 1000 bucks for jeans real or not, especially in a RECESSION lol.


Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:33:00 - [6149]
 

Originally by: Maro Hakaari
I can only hope that there is currently a war inside CCP, and that the good guys are winning.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:34:00 - [6150]
 

Parley time is over.

Lower your arms, surrender, and prepare to be boarded.

Bring forth your crew members soundwave and turbefield for interrogation.

Does captain hilmar have any last words before he walks the plank?


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